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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
While they are assisting Syria, they are absolutely targeting ISIS. In the wake of ISIS atrocities in Bangladesh – where it murdered 20 hostages in a restaurant in the capital Dhaka – and Baghdad, Iraq, where a car bomb killed 125 shoppers, Putin authorized sending its largest warship, plus 30 jet fighters and attack helicopters to destroy ISIS.

Try reading.
Source? Everything I have read to date from various sources estimates approx 90% of Russian attacks/focus on US backed "moderate" rebels with massive civilian "collateral damage" and a fraction on ISIS.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Source? Everything I have read to date from various sources estimates approx 90% of Russian attacks/focus on US backed "moderate" rebels with massive civilian "collateral damage" and a fraction on ISIS.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/138405...e-and-for-all/

Putin isn't the person of the year, but he isn't the boogeyman either. We can use him as needed to help defeat ISIS.
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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/138405...e-and-for-all/

Putin isn't the person of the year, but he isn't the boogeyman either. We can use him as needed to help defeat ISIS.
That's what he said to placate the West, and then, of course, he just kept bombing the other rebels that are a more immediate threat to the Assad regime.
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Originally Posted By MrMcgaw⏩
Alleppo
I love this is the worst thing people can say about GJ.

Self made multimillionaire, not corrupt, pays his creditors, has been an executive of a border state, pro 2a, pro choice, balanced budget.

I will take all the above. Forgetting where some chit hole city in Syria does not bother me.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
That's what he said to placate the West,...
Thanks for your opinion-based statement. I'll stick with provable facts.
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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/138405...e-and-for-all/

Putin isn't the person of the year, but he isn't the boogeyman either. We can use him as needed to help defeat ISIS.
The Sun about the poorest source you could use here. I didn't see anything there that counters anything said about the major focus of Russia on non ISIS forces. The Pentagon has made it clear the reason they don't team up with Russia is due to the fact the vast majority of military focus is against non ISIS forces. If a Sun article about moving some ships convinces you otherwise, doubt anything I could say would change your mind on that.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
But we decided to support and arm dem "moderate" rebels which forced the Russians hand. Assad is a POS, but like most dictators he keeps his area stable and was a secular government vs zealot muslim loonie. Trump plans to send 30k troops you recall so Trump seems to have no plans to go non interventionist here and let the Russians deal with it. Do you want 30k boots on the ground to fight ISIS? I'm not thrilled with that idea.
Trump isn't sending 30k troops over there lol
Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Russia hasn't been targeting ISIS at all. They're assisting the Syrian regime (that is currently dropping chemical weapons on their own country) against the groups that most seriously threaten the regime, which are mostly the US and Turkey backed "rebels". I'm OK with scaling back our presence in Syria, especially in terms of arming various rebel groups, and just targeting ISIS, but I'm not OK saying we should be aligned with Russia to prop up a brutal dictator.
Oh yeah, because regime change has worked soooooo well in the past right?

I support Assad and any attempt to remove him by us or any other nation is undeniably retarded.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
Trump isn't sending 30k troops over there lol
That's what he said he planned to do. I don't see anything funny about that one personally. Your mileage may vary.
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Oh yeah, because regime change has worked soooooo well in the past right?

I support Assad and any attempt to remove him by us or any other nation is undeniably retarded.
But but "moderate" rebels brah!
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
That's what he said he planned to do. I don't see anything funny about that one personally. Your mileage may vary.



But but "moderate" rebels brah!
He's also not buioding a Great Wall that will be fully funded my Mexico.

You can make a big list that any of the candidates have said they will do that simply won't happen.


Personally, I do not believe in sending a single American over there, regardless if it's on the ground or in the air. Pull us out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
He's also not buioding a Great Wall that will be fully funded my Mexico.

You can make a big list that any of the candidates have said they will do that simply won't happen.
Agreed, but that's the same as calling a GJ an "open borders" guy as if it would happen, when it will not. Can't have it both ways. That's what Trump stated was his intent. I also doubt it would happen due to obvious friction he'd get, but that's a different issue from his stated goals. He's not gonna deport 11 million people either as we both know.
Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
Personally, I do not believe in sending a single American over there, regardless if it's on the ground or in the air. Pull us out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya.
Agreed, but guess who would do that if they could? GJ, that's who. Trump and HC, not so much, at leastnot according to their own wordsat least, if that counts...
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Gary johnson is pro TPP
and pro open borders.
No ty.
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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩
Gary johnson is pro TPP
and pro open borders.
No ty.
People like you so easily manipulated:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danikens.../#7ffc9f607326

If Dump wins, then it will be interesting to see what he actually does with the TPP. Being he's done a 180 on every major issue and changed his political affiliations 5 times, why you'd trust anything he says is monument to cognitive dissonance.

I'll take a guy who is honest, even in his support for some issue I don't agree with (such as border policy), vs a serial flip flopper BSer any day.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
People like you so easily manipulated:

If Dump wins, then it will be interesting to see what he actually does with the TPP. Being he's done a 180 on every major issue and changed his political affiliations 5 times, why you'd trust anything he says is monument to cognitive dissonance.
Trump has been bashing NAFTA and how America is getting ripped off with trade since 1980 on the oprah show during an interview.
If anyone has been more anti-TPP, and more consistent with it (for the last 30 years)
It's Trump.
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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩
Trump has been bashing NAFTA and how America is getting ripped off with trade since 1980 on the oprah show during an interview.
If anyone has been more anti-TPP, and more consistent with it (for the last 30 years)
It's Trump.
He does not even know which countries are part of the TPP LMFAO

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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
I love this is the worst thing people can say about GJ.

Self made multimillionaire, not corrupt, pays his creditors, has been an executive of a border state, pro 2a, pro choice, balanced budget.

I will take all the above. Forgetting where some chit hole city in Syria does not bother me.
This is probably the worst:














Gary Johnson on Immigration
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary...mmigration.htm


Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers

Q: What is your view of the immigration issue?
A: Hispanics who immigrate care about their families like other Americans care about their families. They're living in poverty in Mexico and can come to the US and do a lot better.
Q: By--according to some--taking away jobs.
A: They work the lowest-paying jobs. And they are taking jobs that other Americans don't necessarily want. They're hardworking people who are taking jobs that others don't want. That's the reality.
Q: Would you open the borders and make it easier to immigrate legally?
A: My vision of the border with Mexico is that a truck from the United States going into Mexico and a truck coming from Mexico into the United States will pass each other at the border going 60 miles an hour.[color=red] Yes, we should have open borders.[color]
Q: Many Americans fear the flood of immigrants that would follow.
A: They would become taxpayers. They're just pursuing dreams---the same dreams we all have. They work hard. What's wrong with that?















and Paul Joseph Watson sums up that and a few other things nicely


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4




Gary Johnson is without a doubt a member of the Globalist Cult.
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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩
Trump has been bashing NAFTA and how America is getting ripped off with trade since 1980 on the oprah show during an interview.
If anyone has been more anti-TPP, and more consistent with it (for the last 30 years)
It's Trump.
It's easy to when you're a business guy, not so easy when POTUS. I'll keep an open mind to his being consistent on the TPP. It would be great to find one major issue he's been consistent on, even he does not know which counties are actually involved.
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[QUOTE=LukeLissen post_id=1461912383]This is probably the worst:














[b]Gary Johnson on Immigration[/b]
[url]http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm[url]


[i]Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers

Q: What is your view of the immigration issue?
A: Hispanics who immigrate care about their families like other Americans care about their families. They're living in poverty in Mexico and can come to the US and do a lot better.
Q: By--according to some--taking away jobs.
A: They work the lowest-paying jobs. And they are taking jobs that other Americans don't necessarily want. They're hardworking people who are taking jobs that others don't want. That's the reality.
[b]Q: Would you open the borders and make it easier to immigrate legally?
[u]A: My vision of the border with Mexico is that a truck from the United States going into Mexico and a truck coming from Mexico into the United States will pass each other at the border going 60 miles an hour.[color=red] Yes, we should have open borders.[/color][/u][/b]
Q: Many Americans fear the flood of immigrants that would follow.
A: They would become taxpayers. They're just pursuing dreams---the same dreams we all have. They work hard. What's wrong with that?[/i]










and Paul Joseph Watson sums up that and a few other things nicely


[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4[/URL]

[youtube]TW5gQo43ay4[youtube]


Gary Johnson is without a doubt a member of the Globalist Cult.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. Trump is anti 2nd amendment

[URL=https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/]https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/...sault-weapons/[/URL]


...LOL!
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Agreed, but that's the same as calling a GJ an "open borders" guy as if it would happen, when it will not. Can't have it both ways. That's what Trump stated was his intent. I also doubt it would happen due to obvious friction he'd get, but that's a different issue from his stated goals. He's not gonna deport 11 million people either as we both know.



Agreed, but guess who would do that if they could? GJ, that's who. Trump and HC, not so much, at leastnot according to their own wordsat least, if that counts...
I've never called Johnson an "open border guy". But he is and he could do it. We almost have open borders now lol, it would not be difficult. It would be difficult to invade Syria on his own lol.
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Interesting. Trump is anti 2nd amendment

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/...sault-weapons/


...LOL!
Lol at deflecting to Trump in a GJ thread.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
I've never called Johnson an "open border guy".
I didn't say you did, only that the typical derpa derps do. Point is, you and I were differentiating between what they claim they will do/wanna do, vs what they will achieve. But, in terms of what they claim they plan to do (note also GJ does not say he plans to do any such thing to the border only that if he had his way, that's how it would be vs. stating it as a plan/goal...), Trump says his plan it to put 30k ground troops there. If you are ok with the "but he won't be able to do it" approach as the way to dismiss that, that's up to you.

Again, fact remains: only one candidate who would fully agree with you, that we should stop with the regime change and nation building at the cost of US lives that takes things from SNAFU to FUBAR in the region is GJ dude.
Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
But he is and he could do it. We almost have open borders now lol, it would not be difficult. It would be difficult to invade Syria on his own lol.
But does Trump or HC even lift?

Here he is banging out 22 like a champ with obvious room to spare. HC could do zero push ups and if Trump could bang out 3-4 I'd be surprised, much less do triathalons, climb every major mountain peak, etc. while doing bong hits when done as GJ has.

Gary Johnson Does 22 Push-Ups to Draw Attention to Veteran Suicides

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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
I didn't say you did, only that the typical derpa derps do. Point is, you and I were differentiating between what they claim they will do/wanna do, vs what they will achieve. But, in terms of what they claim they plan to do (note also GJ does not say he plans to do any such thing to the border only that if he had his way, that's how it would be vs. stating it as a plan/goal...), Trump says his plan it to put 30k ground troops there. If you are ok with the "but he won't be able to do it" approach as the way to dismiss that, that's up to you.

Again, fact remains: only one candidate who would fully agree with you, that we should stop with the regime change and nation building at the cost of US lives that takes things from SNAFU to FUBAR in the region is GJ dude.



But does Trump or HC even lift?

Here he is banging out 22 like a champ with obvious room to spare. HC could do zero push ups and if Trump could bang out 3-4 I'd be surprised, much less do triathalons, climb every major mountain peak, etc. while doing bong hits when done as GJ has.

Gary Johnson Does 22 Push-Ups to Draw Attention to Veteran Suicides

https://pjmedia.com/video/gary-johns...eran-suicides/
Trump's proposal is also what most top commanders say is needed. I disagree with it, but he didn't just blurt out he was going to send a random number of dudes over there lol.

Johnson said there is no threat from Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya in 2011. LOL at how that worked out. Wonder if he would have asked "what's Benghazi" if someone asked him about it back then.

He also supports bringing in Syria refugees, just lmao. Dude is a PC cuck and that's undeniable. PC is the biggest threat to America, dead srs and he's a champion for it.


GJ climbed the Seven Summits as a purely ego thing. He's not a real climber. He paid 200k dollars to be guided up each mountain. I initially respected him a lot upon hearing about his successful 7S achievement as a climber myself until I learned how he went about it. He was just a rich dude that wanted a "look at me" story.

I'm not knocking him as a candidate for that lol as Trump/Hillary still have a bigger ego than him, but as someone that knows about climbing it's not something to add to the pro list.


GJ also can't legally own a gun due to his bong rips. I'm pro legalization, but I don't want the CIC smoking fukin weed
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Anyone listen to the Libertarian Presidential Forum hosted by Michael Smerconish today?

I'm definitely voting for GJ after hearing him today. He fessed up to his Aleppo error, actually answered questions, didn't splash in the mud over HRC's health, etc.

Makes Trump and Hillary look like animated puppets.
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Anyone listen to the Libertarian Presidential Forum hosted by Michael Smerconish today?

I'm definitely voting for GJ after hearing him today. He fessed up to his Aleppo error, actually answered questions, didn't splash in the mud over HRC's health, etc.

Makes Trump and Hillary look like animated puppets.
They are...
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For the derpa derps who can't figure out why GJ should be in the debates as Trump supporters. That's been a pretty consistent finding hence the annoyance of the "a vote for GJ is a vote for HC" comments which is knee jerk nonsense response by Trump supporters not supported by facts on the ground. Me, at the very least, want him in the debates just so people can see there are other choices than the two parties for future POTUS elections and maybe, just maybe, start to turn the tide when they realize what they got themselves into with one of these two candidates we are forced to stomach. GJ is really unimportant to that goal really. Trump supporters with any tactical senseshould insistGJ make the debates:

Gary Johnson Siphoning Young Voters from Hillary
New poll shows Clinton losing millennials in droves to the Libertarian nominee

Cont:

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Honestly op, I don't know what to do. I was thinking about voting Gary Johnson but so many Miscers are diarrhea shtting on him.

True Libertarians have said he isn't Libertarian at all, that he's nothing but a Democrat
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
Honestly op, I don't know what to do. I was thinking about voting Gary Johnson but so many Miscers are diarrhea shtting on him.

True Libertarians have said he isn't Libertarian at all, that he's nothing but a Democrat
Per the OP, he's not a true Libertarian but a left of center GOP with some Libertarian ideals running on the Libertarian ticket. Some Libertarians would rather go back to total obscurity it appears vs support the one guy who may finally put them on the political map even if far from the ideal Libertarian. Trump is no pure Republican by any stretch, so who cares? There's no "true" anything any more regardless. He's no Democrat, that's obvious, but most miscers - like the rest of society - offer strong opinions first, research later.
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post 1462409683 09-15-2016, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
Honestly op, I don't know what to do. I was thinking about voting Gary Johnson but so many Miscers are diarrhea shtting on him.

True Libertarians have said he isn't Libertarian at all, that he's nothing but a Democrat
They say that because somehow free trade is a Democratic value now. LOL.
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Johnson and Stein fail to make cut for first presidential debate

Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein failed to make the cut for the first presidential debate on Sept. 26, the Commission on Presidential Debates announced on Friday afternoon, in a significant blow for their campaigns.

Though Johnson and Stein satisfied two of the criteria necessary to participate that they be constitutionally eligible and have achieved ballot access in a sufficient number of states to win a theoretical Electoral College majority neither met the threshold on polling.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-debate-228301
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wow, 2016 and people still think Assad is the bad guy. LOL yes we care that much about the Middle East and definitely dont have our own agenda.

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