I'm already very aware of the answer here but apparently the majority of the world isn't because the majority of the world still pursues degrees in a field that at the very best, if they are the very lucky, they will get a 'good' paying fairly cushy 9-5. And that's the 1%. of those with degrees. and even then....guess what...its still a "9-5".


If you want to live the goat life, if you want totrulydo well, you need -- you have -- to be an entrepreneur.

You are not limited by earnings. you dont have a salary. that means it can go both ways. Doing everything right? You can still theoretically earn $0. So it i has its pros and cons. But its the risk you have to accept and work past to be able to have truly unlimited earning potential.


So those of you pursuing a degree just praying to get a good 9-5 one day, please tell us why you choose that over being an entrepreneur. thank you.

most people have to be told what to do and that is why most people can't be an entrepreneur

I agree. I've always said that 'I dont think you can teach the entrepreneurial mindset'. I was doing stuff like an entreprenur longggg before i remotely even cared or knew any about jobs, the job market, or even...college. Brb making those water spinning games where people can drop a quarter through to try and land it on one of the plates to win a prize n chit. lol i remember that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericwagn.../#2dc2bc55e3c6


cuz 80% failure rate

it's all about failing. you never strike gold the first time. wow. and this, right here, is the peasant mindset. you have to know how to keep trying chit. i cannot count how many times i 'failed'. but it helps when you can even sell those 'failures' for worthwhile money (if they were truly half way decent 'failures')

I don't care about all that investment crap, rather go to college, get a degree, get a good job, pay off debt, save for retirement, enroll my kids in the same process I went through, and never become rich. It's the GOAT life.






























notsrs

"Your time is limited, so dont waste it living someone elses life. -- Steve Jobs

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didnt do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -- Mark Twain

wat?

it isn't for everyone and we need every "type" of person in this world so I don't think less of someone who doesn't have that mindset.

If you're not prepared to struggle for at least the next 5+ years, you're not going to make it.

I think you're a little uninformed. At my school 97 percent found full time work within 6 months of graduation and earned on average 48,900 starting salary. Very far from 1%.

This is probably my favorite of the misc's delusions

Just start a business online bro. Its simple. You'll be a multimillionaire and retire at 40

Its not for everybody. Stress is very high even on a light week. I think failure rate is more like 95%. Lots of business that exist done make much $$. Small % make a killing.

If you don't have all of these, or missing one of them - you will not make it:

- Hungry (need to really want that success, more then sleeping or eating)
- Loner (many acquaintances, not many close friends)
- Self esteem issues (constant need to prove yourself)

I think the only delusional is people thinking it's easy money and not YEARS of hard work

ITT tech dat u?

My father worked 60hr+ weeks for years as an entrepreneur.


He died in debt.

Make sure your business is worthy for the modern age. You never hear about the majority of businesses that closed and failed. If you're looking to open a brick&mortar, you dun goofed

oh look another delusional ******* who read a couple self-help books and thinks he's going to be CEO 10k/day




Don't mind all the h8rs and doubters, bro. Gotta post a couple motivational memes and get back to the grind. We're all gonna make it.




enjoy your high stress lifestyle as you peak at making only a quarter of what you could have had you chosen a solid career and with none of the benefits

entreprenuer crew checking in.

Secret Entourage (image in OP) is a legit source of solid info for those wanting to get plugged in.

This. My brother started his own furniture company with a few buddies a couple years back. As a team they have all the knowledge and work ethic to succeed, but they would probsbly be out of business by now if my parents hadn't loaned him 10s of $1000s in capital to purchase equipment. That's the only reason they're making a steady profit right now.

Most successful small businesses are funded by investors with lots of money.

I know plenty of people who worked their asses off for years on their business and still failed

One of my best friend has a really successful business. Works his ass off to the tune of 12 hours a days during the week and 8 on the weekends. Rarely gets a day off. Sounds like an awesome life. All the money in the world and no time to spend it

It has its pros and cons

Pros
- Unlimited salary
- Full creative control
- Flexible work/life balance

Cons
- Extremely stressful in beginning until things get to autopilot
- LOT of capital needed (even for online/software startups, lots of marketing $$$ needed jus to get eyes on your product)
- Chance of failure even after years of investing lot of money/time due to wrong industry/research/business plan, etc..

It's a double edged sword. You gotta be very pragmatic.

Fixed for you.

m8 this has to be the most legit coping i've ever seen.

the one thing that is definitely interesting about these threads is reading all the justifications folks have (to themselves) for why they never tried. many in this thread have had valid angles for sure about risk and whatnot, but some of you guys are coping so hard it's almost comical.

who you trying to convince, the misc or yourselves?

anyone got any good ideas?

Lol it's very stressful and you might fail in the first few ventures but it's a combination of things you gotta get right to be successful. Right concept, business plan, market audience, investment and team with the right blend of skills.

hope you know entrepreneurs work a lot more than 9-5.. it's basically every waking moment. waking up at 6 or 7 AM and not going to bed until after 12 AM, doing non stop work starting their business

Hahahahaha @ 9-5.

9-5 would be so nice. I do 7:30-5 with no overtime.

Definitely don't need convincing that having a job for the rest of my life is the worst possible scenario.

Entrepreneur checking in.

The main reason why I see a lot of people fail at starting their own companies is that they either don't have a grasp on how to build a quality brand and/or their egos coupled with their hunger are in the wrong place.
What I mean by the latter is that themajorityof people start businesses for the wrong reasons.

If you're starting a business for the sole purpose of making a ton of money, you're going to fail.
If you're starting a business and NOT putting your ego completely aside and bending over in order to put the customer first, you're going to fail.

That's why most people, miscers especially, won't make it with starting their own businesses. They aren't interested in truly bending over backwards to make customer service for their consumer come first. In business you NEED to put the customer first - always. But they have over-inflated egos and a "Buy my chit or fukk off" mentality, customers aren't stupid and see right through this. Best case scenario you'll make a little bit of money from it short-term, but in the long run your unauthentic approachWILL fail. Period.

Added EDIT:
Not even mentioning the endless hours you'll have to work. People think 'Oh yeah I don't mind working 100 hour weeks I can do it!'... The reality is much harsher, sure you may be able to do it for a week. Maybe even two. But when I was running my online business I was getting NO sleep, my sleep consisted of 2-3 hour naps and then being woken up by phone calls. You are on-call literally 24/7 and if a problem arisesYOU are the one that has to deal with it - right then and there - no excuses.

If its something you want to do, you'll never be happy doing anything else. So no, I won't talk you out of doing it.