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10-03-2016, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By JohnTS1⏩
So because big pharma is making lots of money we should go back to watching our children die of preventable illnesses?Vaccines had a purpose in the early days but there is too much corruption in Big Pharma now.
The fact that they won't come out and admit that their vaccines can cause HORRIBLE physical and psychological side effects on people shows that they are not to be trusted.
How can you trust them? How can you trust vaccines? You don't know what goes into them.
The guy who created the polio vaccine is not around anymore, but I believe he had good intentions and he created it for the better of mankind.
Nowvaccines are an INDUSTRY for $$$$. That's all it is. Money is the root of all evil.
Same reason a cancer cure has not been released publicly. There's more money to be had in chemo therapy and keeping people sick and coming back for treatment year after year than there is to release a magic pill which kills cancer on the spot.
Every time "flu season" comes around Big Pharma makesbillions and billionsof $$$ from flu vaccines. "Flu season" itself is a novelty of modern times, there was no "flu season" 100 years ago. But that's another discussion.
The fact that they won't come out and admit that their vaccines can cause HORRIBLE physical and psychological side effects on people shows that they are not to be trusted.
How can you trust them? How can you trust vaccines? You don't know what goes into them.
The guy who created the polio vaccine is not around anymore, but I believe he had good intentions and he created it for the better of mankind.
Nowvaccines are an INDUSTRY for $$$$. That's all it is. Money is the root of all evil.
Same reason a cancer cure has not been released publicly. There's more money to be had in chemo therapy and keeping people sick and coming back for treatment year after year than there is to release a magic pill which kills cancer on the spot.
Every time "flu season" comes around Big Pharma makesbillions and billionsof $$$ from flu vaccines. "Flu season" itself is a novelty of modern times, there was no "flu season" 100 years ago. But that's another discussion.

10-03-2016, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
She made a decision for her children...now her children have to live with HER stupid decision.The key line in the video is "she was suddenly forced to face the terrifying consequences of her decisions".
Isn't that what life is about? You make decisions, and you have to live with them. If only people would take responsibility for their decisions instead of blaming other people, then everything would perfect.
Isn't that what life is about? You make decisions, and you have to live with them. If only people would take responsibility for their decisions instead of blaming other people, then everything would perfect.
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
We've also been getting crippling afflictions and dying for thousands of years without them.I'm not anti-vaccine people can do whatever the fuk they please but don't tell me that it's something humansneedbecause they don't we've been living on this planet for thousands of years without them.
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doctors and scientists cant even agree that eating less calories makes you lose fat, and im supposed believe that all vaccines are the gifts that not be questioned? would you 100% trust flapjacko?
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Originally Posted By oysterparts⏩
Flapjackos not a doctordoctors and scientists cant even agree that eating less calories makes you lose fat, and im supposed believe that all vaccines are the gifts that not be questioned? would you 100% trust flapjacko?
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Some mouth breather negged me saying "enjoy your autism" holy **** some people are really dumb as chit and for everyone's sake should not breed
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If people want to get vaccines and such for themselves, good for them srs
If one's will is strong and mental health is in good standing, then you will rarely get sick srs
If one's will is strong and mental health is in good standing, then you will rarely get sick srs
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Originally Posted By GhenghisPWN⏩
I've read that some countries do put people in jail for not vaccinating their kids, which is good cause those people are dangerously stupidIt's a good thing her children got ill, the only thing that gets through to idiots is sheer pain. She should be locked up for being a bio-terrorist.
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
Take a wild guess as to why we live longer these days than the past thousands of yearsI'm not anti-vaccine people can do whatever the fuk they please but don't tell me that it's something humansneedbecause they don't we've been living on this planet for thousands of years without them.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
ITT I learned you can just will yourself to not get polio.If people want to get vaccines and such for themselves, good for them srs
If one's will is strong and mental health is in good standing, then you will rarely get sick srs
If one's will is strong and mental health is in good standing, then you will rarely get sick srs
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Originally Posted By winjones⏩
Tempted to leave the misc if people are serious in this thread and not just trolling me.I'm currently perusing my PhD in pathology... It blows my mind how people that have little to no scientific education can formulate these strong/bull-headed opinions on a topic they don't completely understand.
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Originally Posted By immune18⏩
Proof? I have never seen a study that has been able to correlate vaccinations to autism in any way at all.There's some vaccines you should have, but the MMR can't be taken all in one or you risk ****ing your child's immune system up for life/giving them autism. This is a real thing by the way before any know it all's chime in.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
You lack knowledge and a basic understanding of how this universe, this reality, your mind, your body, your spirit, energy, and thoughts work. Of course you will not understand what I am referring or what my words mean. LDAR in your lesser frequency ******* srsITT I learned you can just will yourself to not get polio.
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Originally Posted By Gt3x24x7⏩
Repped.You lack knowledge and a basic understanding of how this universe, this reality, your mind, your body, your spirit, energy, and thoughts work. Of course you will not understand what I am referring or what my words mean. LDAR in your lesser frequency ******* srs
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I think most of you are forgetting that this is medicine; there is never a perfect system. It's impossible to know how every single person in the entire world is going to react to a medical procedure. People die from basic surgery all the time because their body couldn't handle the anesthesia or for whatever reason.
That being said, I'm sure pharm companies have advertised and put out bull**** vaccines that aren't necessary and/or can cause some bad side effects. Those are obviously wrong, and I don't think there is an argument otherwise. I can see why people these days are skeptical about getting vaccines because a lot of pharm companies really have become these giant assembly line industries that pump out vaccines like they are mass producing cars in Detroit. There are bound to be faulty products that slip through the lines.
But on the other hand, vaccines have all but eliminated some pretty nasty diseases, e.g. smallpox, measles, polio, tetanus etc.
I'll agree that the current system is flawed. But outright refusing all vaccines is pretty stupid. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.
That being said, I'm sure pharm companies have advertised and put out bull**** vaccines that aren't necessary and/or can cause some bad side effects. Those are obviously wrong, and I don't think there is an argument otherwise. I can see why people these days are skeptical about getting vaccines because a lot of pharm companies really have become these giant assembly line industries that pump out vaccines like they are mass producing cars in Detroit. There are bound to be faulty products that slip through the lines.
But on the other hand, vaccines have all but eliminated some pretty nasty diseases, e.g. smallpox, measles, polio, tetanus etc.
I'll agree that the current system is flawed. But outright refusing all vaccines is pretty stupid. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.
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Originally Posted By t_raven⏩
I have never read such bull**** in my entire life as what is in this post. Treating measles costs $0. What the hell do you think they do? Measles comes with a rash, slight fever, cough - a lot like the cold. There was NEVER a measles epidemic where people were dropping like flies like you gullible pussies believe. Know how I know? Because I look at actual ****ing statistics. Never was there even a fraction of the population dying. There is NO TREATING the measles or chicken pox, for that matter. You wait for the fever to go down because guess what fever means? It means the body temp is heating up to kill the virus.plot twist, what if vaccines are safe, but big pharma makes more money when you don't vaccinate, so they created the anti vax movement?


I have no idea what they spent 10k + per case, but I do know that the majority of those cases were.. wait for it ... people WHO WERE VACCINATED! You won't read that in the Sacbee but when they don't mention that the majority were unvacinated that always means they WERE vaccinated. They wouldn't miss an opportunity to place blame on the unvaccinated.
Back in the late 60's The Brady Bunch sitcom aired an episode where all 6 kids got the measles and they were laughing about it and having a great time. That's how it was until they invented a vaccine for it - just a mild illness, a nuisance. I even have family members who had it *gasp* and they are alive. They even attest to never was it a big deal - just a right of passage to get this illness and receive life long immunity. The vaccine was never necessary.
Since some people never read BOOKS or studies and only get their information from headlines, they will never accept the truth. Keep buying the bull**** and take the vaccines that now come from China.
Here is how serious Measles were before Pharma came out with a vaccine. I think this was the mid 60's when everyone was supposedly dropping dead from measles:
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
Well, you would be able to see one (a study) if they (CDC researchers William Thompson and his team) had not falsified and outright destroyed data. William Thompson is a CDC whistleblower who was a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) who got a sudden pang of guilt and decided to confess toProof? I have never seen a study that has been able to correlate vaccinations to autism in any way at all.
in b4 this is your proof
https://avscientificsupportarsenal.w...entific-proof/
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the link his team found between thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders (including autism) as well as the links between the MMR vaccine and autism in African American males and the MMR vaccine and “isolated” autism.
Some of our political officials want him on the stand, testifying but right now nothing is happening and the media won't cover it. Actually, something is happening -- the CDC is getting him to write a paper retracting what was said during a recorded conversation. They are hoping the masses don't get wind of it and it will die out and the public will remain ignorant. The movie VAXXED, the one banned at the Tribeca Film Festival covers this.
You can also read about it here;
https://www.focusforhealth.org/dr-br...liam-thompson/
Contrary to popular belief Andrew Wakefield's research never stated that MMR caused autism. He merely pointed out the gut issues associated with autism and mentioned that all of the patients exhibited symptoms after they received the MMR. That was enough for the drug companies to sic Brian Deer (reporter/shill) on him and destroy his career, just for a slight mention.
This entire topic is exhausting because there is so much propaganda out there and it takes hours and hours of reading and research to really understand the immune system, the history of these diseases, and finally the huge sums of money made by pharm companies and their drug dispensers (doctors). If you aren't inclined to do the research on immunity and true HERD IMMUNITY, which never meant immunity from a needle because vaccines do NOT provide immunity. Protection wears off and they are not 100% effective like the the immunity gained from the actual wild virus. At this time a large population of the US is NOT immune. Most adults do not get boosters --- yet where are the outbreaks? I only read about them from time to time happening in small pockets, usually kids who have just started school (newly immunized, shedding). There are no deaths, either.
It really sucks to find out the truth because it is easier just to go along with the herd.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Which ones were they dying of? Polio? Okay, just give the polio vaccine and leave out the rest. Polio was declining before vaccine came out - not hard to find the stats.So because big pharma is making lots of money we should go back to watching our children die of preventable illnesses?


I'm going to leave this here, since so many people cry out "polio!" without knowing what the hell they are talking about.
and, from an actual doctor (of Nephrology):
10-03-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
bro solely attributing our longer lifespans nowadays than in the past to this is short-sighted as fuk..Take a wild guess as to why we live longer these days than the past thousands of years
living conditions in their entirety are responsible for this.
i.e. not being surrounded by chit and piss around every corner
anti-bacterials, disinfectants, better houses (somewhat, maybe not in rigidity/sturdiness), better healthcare in general (not vaccinations), more money being thrown around places
it's an accumulation of things not just vaccinations
10-03-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Said it better than I ever could. Repped.Well, you would be able to see one (a study) if they (CDC researchers William Thompson and his team) had not falsified and outright destroyed data. William Thompson is a CDC whistleblower who was a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) who got a suddekn pang of guilt and decided to confess to
the link his team found between thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders (including autism) as well as the links between the MMR vaccine and autism in African American males and the MMR vaccine and “isolated” autism.
Some of our political officials want him on the stand, testifying but right now nothing is happening and the media won't cover it. Actually, something is happening -- the CDC is getting him to write a paper retracting what was said during a recorded conversation. They are hoping the masses don't get wind of it and it will die out and the public will remain ignorant. The movie VAXXED, the one banned at the Tribeca Film Festival covers this.
You can also read about it here;
https://www.focusforhealth.org/dr-br...liam-thompson/
Contrary to popular belief Andrew Wakefield's research never stated that MMR caused autism. He merely pointed out the gut issues associated with autism and mentioned that all of the patients exhibited symptoms after they received the MMR. That was enough for the drug companies to sic Brian Deer (reporter/shill) on him and destroy his career, just for a slight mention.
This entire topic is exhausting because there is so much propaganda out there and it takes hours and hours of reading and research to really understand the immune system, the history of these diseases, and finally the huge sums of money made by pharm companies and their drug dispensers (doctors). If you aren't inclined to do the research on immunity and true HERD IMMUNITY, which never meant immunity from a needle because vaccines do NOT provide immunity. Protection wears off and they are not 100% effective like the the immunity gained from the actual wild virus. At this time a large population of the US is NOT immune. Most adults do not get boosters --- yet where are the outbreaks? I only read about them from time to time happening in small pockets, usually kids who have just started school (newly immunized, shedding). There are no deaths, either.
It really sucks to find out the truth because it is easier just to go along with the herd.
the link his team found between thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders (including autism) as well as the links between the MMR vaccine and autism in African American males and the MMR vaccine and “isolated” autism.
Some of our political officials want him on the stand, testifying but right now nothing is happening and the media won't cover it. Actually, something is happening -- the CDC is getting him to write a paper retracting what was said during a recorded conversation. They are hoping the masses don't get wind of it and it will die out and the public will remain ignorant. The movie VAXXED, the one banned at the Tribeca Film Festival covers this.
You can also read about it here;
https://www.focusforhealth.org/dr-br...liam-thompson/
Contrary to popular belief Andrew Wakefield's research never stated that MMR caused autism. He merely pointed out the gut issues associated with autism and mentioned that all of the patients exhibited symptoms after they received the MMR. That was enough for the drug companies to sic Brian Deer (reporter/shill) on him and destroy his career, just for a slight mention.
This entire topic is exhausting because there is so much propaganda out there and it takes hours and hours of reading and research to really understand the immune system, the history of these diseases, and finally the huge sums of money made by pharm companies and their drug dispensers (doctors). If you aren't inclined to do the research on immunity and true HERD IMMUNITY, which never meant immunity from a needle because vaccines do NOT provide immunity. Protection wears off and they are not 100% effective like the the immunity gained from the actual wild virus. At this time a large population of the US is NOT immune. Most adults do not get boosters --- yet where are the outbreaks? I only read about them from time to time happening in small pockets, usually kids who have just started school (newly immunized, shedding). There are no deaths, either.
It really sucks to find out the truth because it is easier just to go along with the herd.
Keep eating up the vaccine propaganda fellas.
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It blows my mind how dumb some people are. Some moron links one example of a little girl who had negative side effects of a vaccine, and says vaccines are bad. The diseases that are prevented by these vaccines would/have killed millions upon millions of people in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
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Originally Posted By UnitedLife⏩
It doesn't matter, one instance is one instance to much! Ban medicine!It blows my mind how dumb some people are. Some moron links one example of a little girl who had negative side effects of a vaccine, and says vaccines are bad. The diseases that are prevented by these vaccines would/have killed millions upon millions of people in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
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Originally Posted By krazy33⏩
Yep, agreed. Plus not ****ting where we eat (aka indoor plumbing) helped a lot. People would **** in their homes, rarely washed their hands, and prepare and eat food. Hell, doctors wouldn't even wash their hands. When hand washing first became recommended for medical professionals in 1846 (by a Hungarian doctor named Ignaz Semmelweis.), his peers ridiculed him as a quack.bro solely attributing our longer lifespans nowadays than in the past to this is short-sighted as fuk..
living conditions in their entirety are responsible for this.
i.e. not being surrounded by chit and piss around every corner
anti-bacterials, disinfectants, better houses (somewhat, maybe not in rigidity/sturdiness), better healthcare in general (not vaccinations), more money being thrown around places
it's an accumulation of things not just vaccinations
living conditions in their entirety are responsible for this.
i.e. not being surrounded by chit and piss around every corner
anti-bacterials, disinfectants, better houses (somewhat, maybe not in rigidity/sturdiness), better healthcare in general (not vaccinations), more money being thrown around places
it's an accumulation of things not just vaccinations
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
You see polio mentioned a lot simply because it is one that has been completely eradicated in a lot of countries since the vaccine, and it was incredibly serious before.Which ones were they dying of? Polio? Okay, just give the polio vaccine and leave out the rest. Polio was declining before vaccine came out - not hard to find the stats.
I'm going to leave this here, since so many people cry out "polio!" without knowing what the hell they are talking about.
and, from an actual doctor (of Nephrology):
I'm going to leave this here, since so many people cry out "polio!" without knowing what the hell they are talking about.
and, from an actual doctor (of Nephrology):
Though of course anything else that we vaccinate against can be serious and deadly as well, even if it's not always.
Any vaccination where the benefits outweigh the risks should be done. I can understand people being more apprehensive about newer ones though.
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I respect that. The problem lies in people lumping them all together and stating that they need to be forced, against the public's will. This is dangerous because it allows the CDC to come up with a plethora of vaccines at their will and they would all be mandated. The vaccine manufacturer cannot be sued for damages, either. There is a vaccine (kangaroo) court but it is very difficult to get any damanges paid, and if you do receive an award for being vaccine damaged, you are prohibited to discuss it with anyone. This is part of the reason we believe there are a minuscule amount of vaccine injuries.
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
ARe you geting your information from Google? Why don't you try reading a ****ing book you stupid piece of ****????
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brb accuses someone of getting info from google,Okay, I'm back just to address the "anything is safe in safe doses" argument.
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
At well-child check-ups, it’s common for 2 month, 4 month, 6 month etc., appointments to include up to 8 vaccinations that add up to more than 1,000 mcg of aluminum. Look at the chart above and notice that that amount isn’t even safe for a 350 pound adult. And many children get up to 8 vaccinations a visit several times a year!
According to the FDA and the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), what happens if a child receives more than the maximum required dose of aluminum?
Aluminum builds up in the bones and brain and can be toxic.
Aluminum can cause neurological harm.
Aluminum overdose can be fatal in patients with weak kidney’s or kidney disorders or in premature babies. (How many children are tested to see if their kidney’s are functioning properly before they are vaccinated? Could this also be why the Hepatitis B shot, given to infants at birth, has been linked to SIDS? Neonatal Deaths After Hep B vaccination.)
After knowing this information, would you really want to give your perfectly healthy new born baby boy the Hep B shot, which protects against a sexually transmitted disease that most people contract through IV drug use or sex?
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
At well-child check-ups, it’s common for 2 month, 4 month, 6 month etc., appointments to include up to 8 vaccinations that add up to more than 1,000 mcg of aluminum. Look at the chart above and notice that that amount isn’t even safe for a 350 pound adult. And many children get up to 8 vaccinations a visit several times a year!
According to the FDA and the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), what happens if a child receives more than the maximum required dose of aluminum?
Aluminum builds up in the bones and brain and can be toxic.
Aluminum can cause neurological harm.
Aluminum overdose can be fatal in patients with weak kidney’s or kidney disorders or in premature babies. (How many children are tested to see if their kidney’s are functioning properly before they are vaccinated? Could this also be why the Hepatitis B shot, given to infants at birth, has been linked to SIDS? Neonatal Deaths After Hep B vaccination.)
After knowing this information, would you really want to give your perfectly healthy new born baby boy the Hep B shot, which protects against a sexually transmitted disease that most people contract through IV drug use or sex?
brb he then literally copy and pastes paragraphs from vaxtruth.org

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[QUOTE=aragon416;1464930191]brb accuses someone of getting info from google,
brb he then literally copy and pastes paragraphs from vaxtruth.org
Because that particular info is absolute fact, not propaganda such as "millions of lives saved!" and "herd immunity!"
I have spent years researching this ****. It is impossible for me to teach brainwashed pimply faced retards everything in this one thread on this one day from scratch so if I find some nuggets of irrefutable truth I will take them, sure.
brb he then literally copy and pastes paragraphs from vaxtruth.org
Because that particular info is absolute fact, not propaganda such as "millions of lives saved!" and "herd immunity!"
I have spent years researching this ****. It is impossible for me to teach brainwashed pimply faced retards everything in this one thread on this one day from scratch so if I find some nuggets of irrefutable truth I will take them, sure.
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