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post 1465566241 10-08-2016, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
Good luck on completely eliminating sugary/acidic drinks and food from peoples diets (especially children), AND having everyone disciplined in brushing their teeth properly/using mouthwash/flossing twice a day. This is compounded even further, for people living in lower socioeconomic societies.

Not going to happen.

Even if these things were to happen - the process of caries development and dental decay would still occur in society. One of my classmates from Vancouver told me that Vancouver does not have fluoridated water (lmao). The result? When I was examining him a few weeks ago in the perio clinic at hospital, he had MANY fillings and dental procedures.

Also, afewconditions in dentistry, not necessarily associated with diet - wisdom teeth occlusion? Ondotogenic cysts? Periapical/periodontal disease? Malocclusion? Bruxism? Xerostomia? Sjrogen's Syndrome? Gingivitis? Temperomandibular joint disorders? Tooth sensitivity? Amelogenesis Imperfecta? Dens Invaginatus? Oral cancer (which doctors aren't trained to detect)? Pulpitis? Trigeminal neuralgia (AKA "suicide disease")? Chipped teeth (trauma)? Oral candidiasis? Fractured jaws? Protrusion of maxilla/mandible? Supernumerary teeth? Overbite/underbite/crossbite?

Don't kid yourself brah - dentistry will always be around... like nursing, physiotherapy, optometry etc.The first records of dentistry were from approx 14000 years ago lol.
Ok man dentistry is the chit we get it

Stop writing essays about how great dentistry is in everythread thanks lol
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Originally Posted By JRJester
Okay explain this. My cousin has never in his life had a single cavity...and he doesn't brush his teeth. Yeah, that's ****ed up, and disgusting. But my mind was blown by this. The kid has an incredibly healthy diet and takes a pharmacy full of supplements each day. Is this just genetics or what?
Doesn't brush his teeth or clean his teeth at all?

If you don't brush your teeth regularly, bacteria can build up to form a clear sticky film (plaque). Brushing your teeth regularly helps to remove plaque and prevent it from forming. It's important to avoid plaque, since it can cause tooth decay (cavities) and gum disease.
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post 1465566331 10-08-2016, 12:47 AM
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post 1465566421 10-08-2016, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted By JRJester
no, he never brushes his teeth. doesn't even own a toothbrush.
I don't know your cousin, or have ever monitored his oral health hygiene... but lets put it this way - if you were to enact his "oral hygiene" on the whole population.... there wouldn't be enough dentists to take care of all the dental issues that would come about.
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Ok man dentistry is the chit we get it

Stop writing essays about how great dentistry is in everythread thanks lol
All I did was state the many other dental conditions that come about, which aren't necessarily associated with simply diet alone. The other poster and I are having a discussion, what business is it to you? Lol

Reading and comprehension isn't your strong point - that we can all agree on now.
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Originally Posted By JRJester
Okay explain this. My cousin has never in his life had a single cavity...and he doesn't brush his teeth. Yeah, that's ****ed up, and disgusting. But my mind was blown by this. The kid has an incredibly healthy diet and takes a pharmacy full of supplements each day. Is this just genetics or what?
yeah thats what I just explained. My brushing habits have not changed -- if anything I'm probably brushing my teeth less than before when I was getting horrible tooth aches and having fillings all the time. I overhauled my diet, and bingo, no more dental problems.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
It is true that Aboriginal people, prior to Western colonization and the introduction of sugary diets etc had a lower caries incidence.... especially compared to Aboriginal populations today.

This although interesting, is no revelation. A sugary diet, let alone a diet consisting of low to moderate carbohydrate intake, is associated with a higher caries rate.

Lmao @ your misinformation. Dental disease (consisting of FAR MORE than caries), has been around forever.



The only ones laughing are the dentists - all the way to the bank

Same level of prestige as a chiropractic quack, whose entire basis of disease is based on flawed pseudoscience ("subluxations" in the spine), and gross extrapolations in how "cracking the spine" can cure someone's flu? Yes, I've heard this absurd statement from a chiropractor.

U mad that you'll never get $200k within 2 years of graduating? It's time to stop crying yourself to sleep each night brah, and try fisting yourself instead.

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Yes, I'm mad. I'm mad that with the one life I was given I didnt do something as meaningless, boring and mundane as becoming a phucking dentist. You could pay me 500k/yr and I wouldn't do that job. 40-50 hours of every week for the next 30+ years are going to be looking in people's mouths. Have fun.
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Definitely its not for the riches but Military officers are sometimes worshipped here.

And I worked as bartender for more than 4 years, when I went somewhere and told them my job, they were like wow rly?, and began communicating with me, tho they did it for an easy access to the bar I worked

Edit: also sorry but there is nothing cool about being an accountant, and Im sure they had other plans in high school.
Every single accountant I met was a creep. I worked as one for a month few years ago and I think that was thr worst month of my life
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
Doesn't brush his teeth or clean his teeth at all?

If you don't brush your teeth regularly, bacteria can build up to form a clear sticky film (plaque). Brushing your teeth regularly helps to remove plaque and prevent it from forming. It's important to avoid plaque, since it can cause tooth decay (cavities) and gum disease.
Natural foods fight plaque naturally, you ****ing idiot. Humans did not scrub their teeth with funny little brushes or use toothpaste for 99.99% of all human history, and we now have more tooth decay and dental problems than ever before. The dental industry is a scam, just accept it and stop spreading misinformation.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Yes, I'm mad. I'm mad that with the one life I was given I didnt do something as meaningless, boring and mundane as becoming a phucking dentist. You could pay me 500k/yr and I wouldn't do that job. 40-50 hours of every week for the next 30+ years are going to be looking in people's mouths. Have fun.
We get it - you never had the academics to even apply for dental school and instead are projecting your butthurt to me on here.

I will have fun. without your permission lmao. Some people have fetishes for feet, I have that for teeth
Originally Posted By batspoof
Natural foods fight plaque naturally, you ****ing idiot. Humans did not scrub their teeth with funny little brushes or use toothpaste for 99.99% of all human history, and we now have more tooth decay and dental problems than ever before. The dental industry is a scam, just accept it and stop spreading misinformation.
Oh right.

Can you explain to me the oral microbiological process of how "natural foods" fight plaque "naturally"?

Ancient Egyptian texts refer to gum disease and dental procedures such as tooth extraction and fixation of the teeth and jaws with wires. The Etruscans used dental prosthetics such as gold crowns and false teeth.
Surgical treatment of dental abscesses was first raised by Hooton9 in 1917, following his visual and radiographic study of an ancient Egyptian mandible, dating to about 2,500 BC. The teeth of the mandible showed considerable wear, with the lower right first molar having a pulpal exposure and an associated apical infection. Hooton noted two small holes penetrating the outer cortical plate above the mental foramen and in the direction of the anterior root of this tooth. He claimed that due to the upward angulation of the holes, their artificial symmetrical appearance and the apparent thickness of bone they had transversed, the holes were the result of man-made drillings, affected in order to drain the pus from the apical abscess.

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Of the so-called 'prosthetic appliances' that have been documented from ancient Egypt, the best known example consists of a mandibular second molar connected by gold wire to a worn third molar (Fig. 2). It was discovered at Giza, near Cairo in a burial shaft dating to approximately 2,500 BC and importantly not found attached to a skull. The dental report at the time stated that judging by the colour and anatomic form of the teeth they belonged to the same individual. Additionally, as the roots of the third molar were very absorbed, due to a probable inflammatory process, the tooth had become mobile, and so in an attempt to stabilise it, it had been attached to its neighbouring tooth.
http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v2....2009.355.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush#History

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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
We get it - you never had the academics to even apply for dental school and instead are projecting your butthurt to me on here.

I will have fun. without your permission lmao. Some people have fetishes for feet, I have that for teeth



Oh right.

Can you explain to me the oral microbiological process of how "natural foods" fight plaque "naturally"?
ROFL. The aboriginals and probably all ancient cultures had things they would chew on and put in their mouth because they knew it helped their teeth and gums. Fluoridated toothpaste wasnt one of those things. They would only use small twigs to remove little bits of food that got stuck between their teeth.
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Originally Posted By batspoof
ROFL. The aboriginals and probably all ancient cultures had things they would chew on and put in their mouth because they knew it helped their teeth and gums. Fluoridated toothpaste wasnt one of those things. They would only use small twigs to remove little bits of food that got stuck between their teeth.
Yes, things that were used to substitute as a toothbrush. Ergo, contradicting your previous post.

You're not too bright are you, batchit? Lmao


You still didn't answer my question -Can you explain to me the oral microbiological process of how "natural foods" fight plaque "naturally"?

I thought you were an expert? Inb4anotherbackflip
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
We get it - you never had the academics to even apply for dental school and instead are projecting your butthurt to me on here.

I will have fun. without your permission lmao. Some people have fetishes for feet, I have that for teeth



Oh right.

Can you explain to me the oral microbiological process of how "natural foods" fight plaque "naturally"?
Don't confuse a lack of respect for your profession as not being academically qualified. My decade in college was well spent.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
Yes, things that were used to substitute as a toothbrush.

You're not too bright are you, batchit? Lmao
LOL you really are a brainless twit in denial. ANCIENT CAVEMEN DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT DENTAL HYGIENE WAS, and it's been proven that they had a full set of teeth and no sign of gingivitis whatsoever. That's because their diet was mostly natural and unprocessed fruits, vegetables and meat.
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Originally Posted By squatsbrah
know how I know you're retarded

EVERY dentist in the world advises on a healthy diet, eliminating sugary drinks and junk food. lmao you're actually a fkn idiot
Had 2 teeth pulled, numerous fillings, and NOT ONCE had a dentist question my diet or advise me on what I should be eating.
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Originally Posted By squatsbrah
your experience with a few dentists ≠ every dentist

BRB every dentist ive ever been to has posters on every wall on the food pyramid, advising against junk food/sugary food, asking how many times i brush/floss/what my diet consists of.
Actually I would say bout 6 different dentists over my lifetime. And all they ever did during regular checks up was clean my teeth with fluoride, ask me about my brushing habits and tell me I need more fluoride.
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Lol at this dentist argument. Reminds me of Stu from Hangover.

Yeah their work is needed for the society but then again society needs bank security guards too, that makes security guard a prestige job?

I was a bartender, so I saw lots of dudes trying their job titles to get laid, being a dentist rarely helped boyo
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Nobody is mirin dentistry except for the $$$, I would not consider it prestigious.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Lol at this dentist argument. Reminds me of Stu from Hangover.

Yeah their work is needed for the society but then again society needs bank security guards too, that makes security guard a prestige job?

I was a bartender, so I saw lots of dudes trying their job titles to get laid, being a dentist rarely helped boyo
did "doctor" help?
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Originally Posted By AcetylCoA
did "doctor" help?
From my experience, most doctors are already married
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Originally Posted By tats27
idk - I'm an English teacher and every time someone finds out they tell me all sorts of good things about the work I do. I'd say teachers are viewed in pretty good light.
did you not see the table? they were ranked decently high


much higher than i expected. i always murmer with low confidence that im planning to be a teacher because its not presitigious. i mean teachers get **** on by parents by students, by administration, by government.
who doesnt **** on teachers? mainly other teachers
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Originally Posted By batspoof
BRB, dentistry will become obsolete when people realize they can eliminate 95% of dental problems through diet alone.
You really reckon people will stop drinking sugary drinks, eating lollies, snacking?

Probably the same time they stop buying bigger houses and faster cars.

Edit. You sound like a real quack though. Are you also anti fluoride, anti vax crew?
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Who did this? a lot of prejudges I think...
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Lol at this dentist argument. Reminds me of Stu from Hangover.

Yeah their work is needed for the society but then again society needs bank security guards too, that makes security guard a prestige job?

I was a bartender, so I saw lots of dudes trying their job titles to get laid, being a dentist rarely helped boyo
Locatio: Germany. Perhaps there were other factors at play?

From what I've seen, medical doctors can pick up pretty well. That is, if they aren't completely obnoxious about sharing who they are to girls. Dental students I've seen in my cohort don't do that badly. Some guys are dating some pretty gorgeous women. I've also landed a nice girl who admires the dedication I've been putting in, and my vision. What it all mainly comes down to, is the individual guy, how they carry themselves etc (you know the rest).
Originally Posted By batspoof
Had 2 teeth pulled, numerous fillings, and NOT ONCE had a dentist question my diet or advise me on what I should be eating.
As another misc'er said above....

One dentist you have seen =/= dentists in general

I don't know what country you live in (USA I'm guessing?), however here in Australia there is quite a lot of public health advocacy done by the Australian Dental Association, in conjunction with leading dental manufacturers such as Colgate... in speaking about the deleterious effects of sugary/acidic drinks on dental health.

This is typically done through many TV ads, newspaper ads and so on. I think you would have to be living under a rock, if in Australia, you have never heard of or seen any campaigning against sugary/acidic drinks, from dental authorities.

The NUMBER ONE method to reduce dental caries? Prevention! Sure, dentists' appointment books are filled out a bit more by patients requiring consults for potential caries... however it's actually very annoying to see patients again and again not listening to said advice. Big reason? Laziness, lack of importance attributed to dental hygiene, and being "preoccupied" with other things.

Dental health is more important than most people think.For one example - people that have periodontal disease also have a very increased risk of coronary artery disease. Your gums are very vascular. Thus, if your gums are damaged... and bacteria gets introduced into your bloodstream, they can go elsewhere in your body and trigger inflammation. Studies show that the bacteria found in periodontal disease (Streptococcus sanguis), which plays a role in stroke, spreads to the heart. The two go hand-in-hand.
Originally Posted By InfinityThor
Nobody is mirin dentistry except for the $$$, I would not consider it prestigious.
Thanks for your opinion.

It's certainly not as prestigious as a street cleaner, or a pizza delivery guy. Many long hours of dedicated study/sacrifice/competition/pursuit of knowledge in those roles.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious
As another misc'er said above....

One dentist you have seen =/= dentists in general

I don't know what country you live in (USA I'm guessing?), however here in Australia there is quite a lot of public health advocacy done by the Australian Dental Association, in conjunction with leading dental manufacturers such as Colgate... in speaking about the deleterious effects of sugary/acidic drinks on dental health.

This is typically done through many TV ads, newspaper ads and so on. I think you would have to be living under a rock, if in Australia, you have never heard of or seen any campaigning against sugary/acidic drinks, from dental authorities.

The NUMBER ONE method to reduce dental caries? Prevention! Sure, dentists' appointment books are filled out a bit more by patients requiring consults for potential caries... however it's actually very annoying to see patients again and again not listening to said advice. Big reason? Laziness, lack of importance attributed to dental hygiene, and being "preoccupied" with other things.

Dental health is more important than most people think.For one example - people that have periodontal disease also have a very increased risk of coronary artery disease. Your gums are very vascular. Thus, if your gums are damaged... and bacteria gets introduced into your bloodstream, they can go elsewhere in your body and trigger inflammation. Studies show that the bacteria found in periodontal disease (Streptococcus sanguis), which plays a role in stroke, spreads to the heart. The two go hand-in-hand.
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Originally Posted By Ashfrolicious


Not here in Australia, buddy.

Pharmacy here in Australia is now largely corporatized. The large chemist companies are ruling the market, driving up competition against the smaller business pharmacies. The end result? Low pay for graduate pharmacists and a bleak outlook compared to what it used to be like.

I know of graduate pharmacists getting $24/hour. Just lmfao. Brb, slaving away hard at university over hardcore medicinal chemistry and pharmacology.... and getting fukking nowhere.

I have 7 pharmacists in my doctor of dental medicine degree, who quit pharmacy due to the chit condition of it in Australia at the moment. Their average annual salary coming out of uni was a piss-poor $48k/year.

No where near the stratosphere of what a graduate dentist here earns.
Should be obvious m8 but OP and the discussion is US-centric. In the states, both pharmacy and dentistry are doctorate degrees ie not "straight out of college [undergrad]".

But yeah PharmD grads make starting $100k-$130k in my area in south US, depending on hospital vs retail. As young as 24yo. I know this because I work in pharmacy finance.

Dentists can have a higher salary long term though. Both great professions alternative to "that other Doctor".
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Thanks for your opinion.

It's certainly not as prestigious as a street cleaner, or a pizza delivery guy. Many long hours of dedicated study/sacrifice/competition/pursuit of knowledge in those roles.
No need to get so defensive, it's just not something that really captures the general public.

Everyone knows it's hard and that they make good money, but besides that most people hate dentists and want to avoid them at all costs.
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