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10-15-2016, 11:02 AM
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#151
Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Completely agreed. They're clearly giving up on those of us that were there at the beginning.Yeah its pretty unfortunate. Im not claiming to have the answer to balance gameplay, but Id imagine a boardroom full of top silicon talent would be able to come up with something. Perhaps some special gyms that cant be capped, maybe even team specific? Im not sure, but I dont think the current system really takes long term play into consideration. Top players get HUGE stardust bonuses that everyone else cant make up for by playing.
I dont really think Niantic cares though. There really has not been much shown from them that they value long term playability. I think their end goal is just to keep attracting new players and wait for them to give the game up in the late level 20s, and then bring in new players.
I dont really think Niantic cares though. There really has not been much shown from them that they value long term playability. I think their end goal is just to keep attracting new players and wait for them to give the game up in the late level 20s, and then bring in new players.
10-15-2016, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Lmao what.Looks like Niantic has disabled the sightings/nearby while you're going over 30 mph. This, of course, stops Pokmon from spawning until you slow down and ping another server nearby. For all you bus riders and passengers, definitely a big fuk you from niantic.
So now the only way to find Pokemon is to fukkin walk around? Can't even cruise around and have a friend catching chit? Fukk Niantic. 100% running this game into the goddamn ground with these changes. How do they not realize it's just hurting the users and nobody wants these chitty updates.
When the fuk are they even going to release the San Diego tracker? That was released on fukkin August 8th.
It's been a bit over 3 months and all they've done is fukk over the users and give us chit updates in return for the things that were useful they removed.
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GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
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10-15-2016, 11:19 AM
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#153
Originally Posted By SpicyCurrie⏩
Ironically, they block third party trackers and instead of fixing their tracker so we don't have a need for third party apps, they find a way to give everyone a valid reason to have them. The only optimistic thought I have is they're trying their hardest to eliminate any outside interference before releasing their own version of an updated tracker. Problem with that is the 3rd party devs will figure out how to use it to their advantage. Like the guy from fastpokemap said, there will always be people to listen to the demand of the hardcore and find ways around their security protocols until there isn't a need for them. At that point pogo will more than likely not even be around.Lmao what.
So now the only way to find Pokemon is to fukkin walk around? Can't even cruise around and have a friend catching chit? Fukk Niantic. 100% running this game into the goddamn ground with these changes. How do they not realize it's just hurting the users and nobody wants these chitty updates.
When the fuk are they even going to release the San Diego tracker? That was released on fukkin August 8th.
It's been a bit over 3 months and all they've done is fukk over the users and give us chit updates in return for the things that were useful they removed.
So now the only way to find Pokemon is to fukkin walk around? Can't even cruise around and have a friend catching chit? Fukk Niantic. 100% running this game into the goddamn ground with these changes. How do they not realize it's just hurting the users and nobody wants these chitty updates.
When the fuk are they even going to release the San Diego tracker? That was released on fukkin August 8th.
It's been a bit over 3 months and all they've done is fukk over the users and give us chit updates in return for the things that were useful they removed.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
10-15-2016, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Yeah exactly.Ironically, they block third party trackers and instead of fixing their tracker so we don't have a need for third party apps, they find a way to give everyone a valid reason to have them. The only optimistic thought I have is they're trying their hardest to eliminate any outside interference before releasing their own version of an updated tracker. Problem with that is the 3rd party devs will figure out how to use it to their advantage. Like the guy from fastpokemap said, there will always be people to listen to the demand of the hardcore and find ways around their security protocols until there isn't a need for them. At that point pogo will more than likely not even be around.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
And even if they do release the SD tracker - it doesn't help rural players at all.. They're shooting themselves in the foot..
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GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.
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10-15-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By SpicyCurrie⏩
Actually, its more like 20mph. I never used this method much, but its still one more nail in the coffin for this game. More specifically, the timing is terrible. Half the country is about to be frozen over, and they take away the one method of playing in the winter.Lmao what.
So now the only way to find Pokemon is to fukkin walk around? Can't even cruise around and have a friend catching chit? Fukk Niantic. 100% running this game into the goddamn ground with these changes. How do they not realize it's just hurting the users and nobody wants these chitty updates.
When the fuk are they even going to release the San Diego tracker? That was released on fukkin August 8th.
It's been a bit over 3 months and all they've done is fukk over the users and give us chit updates in return for the things that were useful they removed.
So now the only way to find Pokemon is to fukkin walk around? Can't even cruise around and have a friend catching chit? Fukk Niantic. 100% running this game into the goddamn ground with these changes. How do they not realize it's just hurting the users and nobody wants these chitty updates.
When the fuk are they even going to release the San Diego tracker? That was released on fukkin August 8th.
It's been a bit over 3 months and all they've done is fukk over the users and give us chit updates in return for the things that were useful they removed.
I have to imagine the way the company is run is entirely top down from the inbred CEO who thinks hes a genius and does not allow any dissent. Its the only explanation I can come up wjth.
Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
A lot of people are suggesting that this "update" is aimed specifically at FPM, as they can only scan below the max speed to see where pokemon are.Ironically, they block third party trackers and instead of fixing their tracker so we don't have a need for third party apps, they find a way to give everyone a valid reason to have them. The only optimistic thought I have is they're trying their hardest to eliminate any outside interference before releasing their own version of an updated tracker. Problem with that is the 3rd party devs will figure out how to use it to their advantage. Like the guy from fastpokemap said, there will always be people to listen to the demand of the hardcore and find ways around their security protocols until there isn't a need for them. At that point pogo will more than likely not even be around.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
Its deplorable how this company is being run. I was very outspoken about people requesting total refunds before, but it seems sometimes the writing is on the wall and you gotta just do what you gotta do. Glad I havent spent money on this game.
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10-15-2016, 11:35 AM
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#156
After hatching 644 eggs, I've finally hatched a grimer! Finally enough after walking that pos for 120km! It only has 71 IV though. I do have an 894 with bad IVs I'm thinking about evolving just because it won't take a bunch of stardust to make him decent. Kinda torn.
On a side note, my wife has a theory concerning buddies. She walked her omanyte for at least 100kms and she hatched one 3 candies before she would've had enough for omastar. The same thing happens with me and grimer. I walked him for forever and once I was within five candies then I all of a sudden hatched him. I know it's random but a coincidence to say the least.
Edit: went against my better judgement and evolved the higher IV version....
Poison jab/dark pulse
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
On a side note, my wife has a theory concerning buddies. She walked her omanyte for at least 100kms and she hatched one 3 candies before she would've had enough for omastar. The same thing happens with me and grimer. I walked him for forever and once I was within five candies then I all of a sudden hatched him. I know it's random but a coincidence to say the least.
Edit: went against my better judgement and evolved the higher IV version....
Poison jab/dark pulse
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
10-15-2016, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Almost rather have that than Lick / Gunk Shot, like mine has. But he's 98%, so I'm going to walk him once I finish walking my Golem and Machamp with good moves.Poison jab/dark pulse
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
10-15-2016, 12:44 PM
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Have finally logged out and uninstalled app. It's been real.
10-15-2016, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson⏩
Cya next weekHave finally logged out and uninstalled app. It's been real.
Srs probably a lot more of that soon if Niantic doesnt change something drastically.
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10-15-2016, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Brah lets be cereal. You wont be attacking that much with a Muk as generally, vaporeon/dragonite/lapras/snorlax are going to be demolishing everything.After hatching 644 eggs, I've finally hatched a grimer! Finally enough after walking that pos for 120km! It only has 71 IV though. I do have an 894 with bad IVs I'm thinking about evolving just because it won't take a bunch of stardust to make him decent. Kinda torn.
On a side note, my wife has a theory concerning buddies. She walked her omanyte for at least 100kms and she hatched one 3 candies before she would've had enough for omastar. The same thing happens with me and grimer. I walked him for forever and once I was within five candies then I all of a sudden hatched him. I know it's random but a coincidence to say the least.
Edit: went against my better judgement and evolved the higher IV version....
Poison jab/dark pulse
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
On a side note, my wife has a theory concerning buddies. She walked her omanyte for at least 100kms and she hatched one 3 candies before she would've had enough for omastar. The same thing happens with me and grimer. I walked him for forever and once I was within five candies then I all of a sudden hatched him. I know it's random but a coincidence to say the least.
Edit: went against my better judgement and evolved the higher IV version....
Poison jab/dark pulse
Fuuuuuuuu....
Guess he's just a pokedex addition. Almost tempted to transfer.
Your moveset is basically the best defensive moveset for Muk though. Power him up and drop him in a gym.
10-15-2016, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By NFLIKT⏩
Just looked it up, unbelievable. Think I will power it up.Brah lets be cereal. You wont be attacking that much with a Muk as generally, vaporeon/dragonite/lapras/snorlax are going to be demolishing everything.
Your moveset is basically the best defensive moveset for Muk though. Power him up and drop him in a gym.
Your moveset is basically the best defensive moveset for Muk though. Power him up and drop him in a gym.
10-15-2016, 05:10 PM
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sure sounds like my ramblings were correct lol
10-15-2016, 06:53 PM
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10-15-2016, 07:38 PM
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How long did it take you bros to go from 28 to 30? Really wanna hit 30 and then chill for a bit, Probably looking to dump all my dust at level 31 or so. Sitting on about 300k which aint much but have been powering up more lately since I got a couple good evos
Still waiting on a Vap with Hydro
Still waiting on a Vap with Hydro
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10-15-2016, 07:52 PM
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Just did another mass evolve. Evolved my 4 best eevee and got 4 vaporeons, 3 had hydro pump lol finally some luck with eevees.
10-15-2016, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By metalmario⏩
And here I just want one good IV vap with hydro and been playing since 7/7Just did another mass evolve. Evolved my 4 best eevee and got 4 vaporeons, 3 had hydro pump lol finally some luck with eevees.
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10-15-2016, 08:50 PM
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Eevees are like fleas around here. Half the mons in gyms are Vaporeons, and 1/4 more are Flareons. But Exeggutors and Arcanines are fairly rare.
10-15-2016, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Just a happy coincidence. A few players actually tested this and found it to be untrue.On a side note, my wife has a theory concerning buddies. She walked her omanyte for at least 100kms and she hatched one 3 candies before she would've had enough for omastar. The same thing happens with me and grimer. I walked him for forever and once I was within five candies then I all of a sudden hatched him. I know it's random but a coincidence to say the least.
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson⏩
Cya when Niantic fixes things or when they launch something new (legendaries, Ditto).Have finally logged out and uninstalled app. It's been real.
Originally Posted By metalmario⏩
You evolved 4 Eevees and got 4 Vaporeans? That's kinda lucky lol.Just did another mass evolve. Evolved my 4 best eevee and got 4 vaporeons, 3 had hydro pump lol finally some luck with eevees.
Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Agreed. I don't mind them blocking tracker apps, but their in-game tracker(sightings) is absolutely chit. There is hardly any possible inkling for you to make a real guess how to track the pokemon in your sightings. Yeah, some guy made a video about how you can get to that pokemon in your sighting via a North-South-East-West approach, but it just isn't practical in any urban setting.Ironically, they block third party trackers and instead of fixing their tracker so we don't have a need for third party apps, they find a way to give everyone a valid reason to have them. The only optimistic thought I have is they're trying their hardest to eliminate any outside interference before releasing their own version of an updated tracker. Problem with that is the 3rd party devs will figure out how to use it to their advantage. Like the guy from fastpokemap said, there will always be people to listen to the demand of the hardcore and find ways around their security protocols until there isn't a need for them. At that point pogo will more than likely not even be around.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
Inb4 fastpokemap was created by niantic.
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10-15-2016, 09:06 PM
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Loooovvvveeeee the Pokmon GO!
10-15-2016, 10:40 PM
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10-16-2016, 01:56 AM
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I think this game will be a case study for what not to do with a massively successful app. I don't know what is going on at that company but it is hard to understand the seemingly suicidal decisions they keep making to throw away probably billions of dollars.
How you build a social/community based game based on a franchise with a huge and loyal following while having basically zero social media presence and completely ignoring the angry user base is hard to understand.
Blaming lack of server capacity in a cloud based environment where additional capacity should be instantly available makes you question Google's cloud service using Amazon probably would have avoided the problems and kept the money flowing in while they handled the bots.
Continuing to cut features to aggresively expand into more countries while even though you are adding more countries your worldwide user base keeps shrinking.
I'm no CEO 1mil/day but I feel like any miscer could have handled this better and not killed the game so fast
How you build a social/community based game based on a franchise with a huge and loyal following while having basically zero social media presence and completely ignoring the angry user base is hard to understand.
Blaming lack of server capacity in a cloud based environment where additional capacity should be instantly available makes you question Google's cloud service using Amazon probably would have avoided the problems and kept the money flowing in while they handled the bots.
Continuing to cut features to aggresively expand into more countries while even though you are adding more countries your worldwide user base keeps shrinking.
I'm no CEO 1mil/day but I feel like any miscer could have handled this better and not killed the game so fast
10-16-2016, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Cartiac⏩
I doubt they'll lose billions as they've only grossed around half a billion this entire time. I will agree that with every update they seemingly dwindle down their user base. Gotta think, for every hardcore player they lose, they're probably gaining 3-4 new noob players but these players aren't long term though. I'm not saying they need to yield to every hardcore player's wishes( as most are ridiculous) but decisions that limit actual gameplay to the point where it's almost unplayable for even your average player is suicide. I'm glad I'm almost done with my dex and am pretty comfortable where I'm at. Gonna slow down here pretty soon and just save everything for (hopefully) better things to come.I think this game will be a case study for what not to do with a massively successful app. I don't know what is going on at that company but it is hard to understand the seemingly suicidal decisions they keep making to throw away probably billions of dollars.
How you build a social/community based game based on a franchise with a huge and loyal following while having basically zero social media presence and completely ignoring the angry user base is hard to understand.
Blaming lack of server capacity in a cloud based environment where additional capacity should be instantly available makes you question Google's cloud service using Amazon probably would have avoided the problems and kept the money flowing in while they handled the bots.
Continuing to cut features to aggresively expand into more countries while even though you are adding more countries your worldwide user base keeps shrinking.
I'm no CEO 1mil/day but I feel like any miscer could have handled this better and not killed the game so fast
How you build a social/community based game based on a franchise with a huge and loyal following while having basically zero social media presence and completely ignoring the angry user base is hard to understand.
Blaming lack of server capacity in a cloud based environment where additional capacity should be instantly available makes you question Google's cloud service using Amazon probably would have avoided the problems and kept the money flowing in while they handled the bots.
Continuing to cut features to aggresively expand into more countries while even though you are adding more countries your worldwide user base keeps shrinking.
I'm no CEO 1mil/day but I feel like any miscer could have handled this better and not killed the game so fast
10-16-2016, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
yea probably exaggerating a bit on the money, but they definitely could have maintained more of the inital cash flow with some simple smart decisions like having a social media rep on reddit, twitter, etc to engage the users community and answer very frustrating question like what happened to tracking and why they developed a new system but only release it to the bay area. The CEO publicly stating they did the least they possibly could to release the game wasn't smart either.I doubt they'll lose billions as they've only grossed around half a billion this entire time. I will agree that with every update they seemingly dwindle down their user base. Gotta think, for every hardcore player they lose, they're probably gaining 3-4 new noob players but these players aren't long term though. I'm not saying they need to yield to every hardcore player's wishes( as most are ridiculous) but decisions that limit actual gameplay to the point where it's almost unplayable for even your average player is suicide. I'm glad I'm almost done with my dex and am pretty comfortable where I'm at. Gonna slow down here pretty soon and just save everything for (hopefully) better things to come.
I completely agree with keeping the game playable for everyone is important but how do you expect to bring in new users when you've killed the ability to really go out and 'hunt' Pokemon with your friends which I think was the part of the game that attracted so many people much more than gym battling.
I still play and enjoy the game but do not go out of my way anymore and feel very dissappointed that I and many others would still be enjoying the game more if the company was properly managed.
10-16-2016, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Cartiac⏩
I'm in the same boat. If they actually implemented mew ways to catch or find Pokmon I'd probably be playing more but now it's about maintaining gyms( which isn't that hard anymore) and occasionally turning on my iPad at the house to catch whatever I can drift to.yea probably exaggerating a bit on the money, but they definitely could have maintained more of the inital cash flow with some simple smart decisions like having a social media rep on reddit, twitter, etc to engage the users community and answer very frustrating question like what happened to tracking and why they developed a new system but only release it to the bay area. The CEO publicly stating they did the least they possibly could to release the game wasn't smart either.
I completely agree with keeping the game playable for everyone is important but how do you expect to bring in new users when you've killed the ability to really go out and 'hunt' Pokemon with your friends which I think was the part of the game that attracted so many people much more than gym battling.
I still play and enjoy the game but do not go out of my way anymore and feel very dissappointed that I and many others would still be enjoying the game more if the company was properly managed.
I completely agree with keeping the game playable for everyone is important but how do you expect to bring in new users when you've killed the ability to really go out and 'hunt' Pokemon with your friends which I think was the part of the game that attracted so many people much more than gym battling.
I still play and enjoy the game but do not go out of my way anymore and feel very dissappointed that I and many others would still be enjoying the game more if the company was properly managed.
10-16-2016, 07:50 AM
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i have a theory...maybe Niantic is making it more difficult to catch pokemon in the wild, thereby forcing us towards the route of eggs (incubators), lures and incenses-all 3 are cash registers for Niantic.
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Hit 31 about 7 weeks ago and stopped going to farm spots, would just leave third party tracker on
With trackers dead rn bc of captchas I just catch pokes at stop lights :/
With winter coming soon gonna try to get at least 15 pokes into gyms and hopefully they last. I only put my pokes into lv10 gyms and they can last up to 2 weeks
With trackers dead rn bc of captchas I just catch pokes at stop lights :/
With winter coming soon gonna try to get at least 15 pokes into gyms and hopefully they last. I only put my pokes into lv10 gyms and they can last up to 2 weeks
10-16-2016, 08:57 AM
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10-16-2016, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Every update they find a way to alienate another chunk of the userbase.... people with rootede devices, people with blackberrys, people that use trackers, people that drive around to catch mons, every rural player from the beginning, just lol. I still play now when go for a run or when its real nice out and want to chill at a park in the city with my girl, but other than that there isnt much to doI doubt they'll lose billions as they've only grossed around half a billion this entire time. I will agree that with every update they seemingly dwindle down their user base. Gotta think, for every hardcore player they lose, they're probably gaining 3-4 new noob players but these players aren't long term though. I'm not saying they need to yield to every hardcore player's wishes( as most are ridiculous) but decisions that limit actual gameplay to the point where it's almost unplayable for even your average player is suicide. I'm glad I'm almost done with my dex and am pretty comfortable where I'm at. Gonna slow down here pretty soon and just save everything for (hopefully) better things to come.
Originally Posted By JustBulk⏩
They just made it easier to catch pokemon in the wild with the new update and medals. Maybe they realizede they were fuarking up? The issye is that if you make the game too annoying to play, people wont buy, they just quit. And what niantic doesnt seem to get is that this game is meant to be played with others. It isnt like CoC where you can sit in yiour bed by yourself and play for hours. Here, if one person qiuts, two or three may follow becayuse they lost people to play with.i have a theory...maybe Niantic is making it more difficult to catch pokemon in the wild, thereby forcing us towards the route of eggs (incubators), lures and incenses-all 3 are cash registers for Niantic.
I know if i quit my GF would stop playing too. It isnt a solo game. Not to mention new players are often brought in by old ones; lose the old ones and you lose a stream of new players.
Originally Posted By Judgment⏩
Not terrible, could be good to take on dragonites for prestige.Girl and I spent all day at a Charmander nest. Within 4 hours she had enough candy to evolve into a Charizard. It ended up getting "Dragon Claw" lmao ouch.
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10-16-2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By penamante⏩
This is definitely my plan when it really starts to get cold. I can maintain between 7 and 9 now. I'd love to have close to 20 when the first storm comes. Can't imagine the game can be successful when you don't allow pokemon on the sightings while driving. Is there not a way for them to be on sightings but not spawn if you're going over xxxmph?Hit 31 about 7 weeks ago and stopped going to farm spots, would just leave third party tracker on
With trackers dead rn bc of captchas I just catch pokes at stop lights :/
With winter coming soon gonna try to get at least 15 pokes into gyms and hopefully they last. I only put my pokes into lv10 gyms and they can last up to 2 weeks
With trackers dead rn bc of captchas I just catch pokes at stop lights :/
With winter coming soon gonna try to get at least 15 pokes into gyms and hopefully they last. I only put my pokes into lv10 gyms and they can last up to 2 weeks
10-16-2016, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Theres probably a way for them to have a tracker by now, a way for people with rooted phones to play, a way for egg distance to be better, etcThis is definitely my plan when it really starts to get cold. I can maintain between 7 and 9 now. I'd love to have close to 20 when the first storm comes. Can't imagine the game can be successful when you don't allow pokemon on the sightings while driving. Is there not a way for them to be on sightings but not spawn if you're going over xxxmph?
Theres a way, they just, for whatever reason, dont want us to have it
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