Do you live in the USA? How do you know he didn't mean to take her down and pin her? She just happened to hit her head. How many people telling you that you're wrong does it take for you to reconsider?

Reasonable force. Not to mention he didn't further any force following his diffusing of the situation.

The guy isn't obligated to try not to hurt her or handicap himself. Which is your only argument. He is allowed to defend himself. He didn't do anything above and beyond that. He stopped the threat and walked away.

Whats funny is ive actually been in this situation.. and it could have very easily turned against me STILL

We pushed the girl and she fell and hit her head

She was intoxicated and belligerent which is why the cops didnt do anything. But if she had said anything or wanted to take us to court it would have been he said vs. She said

I was in the situation, handled it differently and i still almost had to go to court

Again, i think his actions went from self defense to malicious intent once he slammed her

but my gma

Mmmm I'm usually all for "hit and get hit" but I think fighting over cement is full retard let alone when the person you are fighting is 80 lbs less than you. Cringed watching that.

Cases can be presented however they please

You can take people to court for lots of things

Lol at reasonable force

"Excessive" force more like it

"Reasonable force" to toss a toddler too

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as someone who does judo, this might be the most retarded thing i have ever read. Have you ever been thrown with a judo throw? on concrete? Those throws are violent and fast, you could easily break bones, kill someone with a throw on concrete esp if you land on top of them like that

no way am i justifying that girls actions, im just stating this poster is retarded.

Who the fawk cares about the slam


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go ask your gma you ignorant *******.

Pretty easy to prove it wasnt reasonable force

His reaction didnt justify the impending threat.. you "ignorant *******"

And lol at you pretending like theres any objective framework

I could take a case against you for whatever i want

so a takedown with no strikes no extra hits afterward vs an adult who is instigating the whole physical aspect of this thing is still excessive? it's this guy's responsibility to look around and make sure they're on grass before he takes her down?

no. it is entirely her responsibility to be aware of her surroundings as she attacks somebody. or better yet, don't get physical in the first place

Shes allowed to go full thorttle while hes not allowed to go 50% to defend himself?

You're gonna be a good little cuck for some lucky 6/10 one day

Your "grasp" of the law is pitiful and your gma should be ashamed that she has to share genes with a potato. Good luck with life bruh

Think its pretty easy to say he didnt do anything afterwards because he slammed her to the ground

Knowing it would subdue her

Anyways.. if any lawyers know the girl and are itt they can take a case

All you have to do is concoct a story and PROVE what youre saying. In this case, i think its easy to say he shouldnt have body slammed her

Like i said, id say he needs to pay half of the hospital bills

My mom and sis aren't pieces of trash that start fights. They are some of the nicest people ever and act like that everyday. Sorry that your family is trash bro.

Lol at your "defense attorney" gf..

Guess your exempt from hearsay because its your gf

Because your gf is an attorney, you are this bastion of knowledge on the law

As i said before, ive been in this situation before so im willing to guess i have more experience than you living vicariously through your supposed gf

just remember, if a guy was swinging on him, you'd be saying he deserved it - so much for equality, eh?

krazy33 have you ever been attacked and invoked self defense? You don't run through 100 options in your head to pick out the best one haha - your hind brain triggers to protect yourself. If you ask me, controlled himself pretty well by walking away after the immediate threat was extinguished.

Just like I wouldn't start a fight with Brock Lesnar, she shouldn't do it with him. Fcukin dumbass girl.

uhh u wot m8? If you throw someone like that and they hit their head you could easily kill them.

It was self defense and he shouldn't have been charged with anything. But body slamming someone on cement is dangerous and people have been charged with manslaughter in the past for killing others in fights.

Another thing to keep in mind is this guy had witnesses and cameras. If this were a domestic incident in private the outcome might have been very different for the guy.

I already explained that. No, i wouldnt

Also, throughout all of this we still dont know the exact cause of it.. fair to say it escalated through a normal argument

But if some little chit came out of nowhere and tried to do it, i would agree with youAbsolutely. Ive already explained. Get this.. we were HELPING her throughout the entire thing

She was drunk and trying to drive. We werent allowing her, but she insisted. We blocked the door and she came charging at us..

I didnt actuslly do it but my friend stuck his arm out, the girl fell backwards and hit her head..

Guess what happened?

She accused us of hurting her, because she knew she acted like a retard.

She tried to tell the cops but she was drunk and angry so i think they just ignored.

The cops came up to us and told us do you know what blah, blah, blah is.

Where he proceeded to tell us of taking people to jail because 2 buddies were out smoking cigs and one guy poked another and one guy decided he didnt want it

That battery is considered "any unwanted touching"

So, again, not only have i "diffused" the situation differently.. but throughout the entirety of the thing we were just trying to help the girl

Yet the cops told us we were lucky because once they even mutter the word, they can take a case against us

" they did this, they did that, etc. Physical violence, altercation, etc."

I don't believe you, but it doesn't matter. If anyone picks a fight willingly, then they need to be prepared to face consequences since people have a right to defend themselves. I suppose you're against shooting home invaders too? After all they're just poor misguided souls who usually don't mean any harm, right?

We have different details about the incident.

I think a burglary is a bit different because you dont know whether or not they had weapons. You dont know what theyre doing, etc.

This was a teenage girl that he most likely knew. If she had a knife, thats different and i say hes justified.

But i still think it would be easy to prove he wasnt defending himself but trying to cause harm

I legit had every intention of leaving this thread but the gf was using the home comp for pictures and chit forum buddy caught your reference to her. She laughed but also felt bad for you.

Look, it's like this. You claiming I'm living vicariously through my gfs experience is any different from you acting like you have any clue about the law because your gma is a supposed attorney?!? Please tell me you aren't so dense that you see the irony in this?!

On top of that, your only other qualification is that you've been in this situation. Ok so you really are a special someone who finds themselves in such a deeply escalated situation that you feel you are an authority on the matter. If that's the case there are a thousand more questions to ask about your sketchy ass.

Great, you have a grandparent that is supposed to be an attorney, and you've been involved in domestic violence situations. Let's definitely listen to you and you potato cuck judge Judy writing opinion as if it could ever stand a chance not only in a court of opinion but a court of law lol.

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