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post 1472086111 11-21-2016, 05:09 PM
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ITT I post the reaction of the college freshman on their first day of class.


That seems way above what a college freshman would know.
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Originally Posted By EEBreh⏩
ITT I post the reaction of the college freshman on their first day of class.


That seems way above what a college freshman would know.
The department wants me to give a harder course.

At least my students will still love me right?
post 1472089221 11-21-2016, 05:35 PM
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Math in engineering courses is a joke. Most of the students you will be teaching won't remember 90% of the stuff they study in a couple years.

Laplace transforms lmao you just need to consult a table, or use a computer.

Same for differential equations.

The problem with mathematicians is that they want to push their rigorous chit into engineering programs, which would be valid if it were of any use later, but it never is.
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Originally Posted By stronglogic⏩
Math in engineering courses is a joke. Most of the students you will be teaching won't remember 90% of the stuff they study in a couple years.

Laplace transforms lmao you just need to consult a table, or use a computer.

Same for differential equations.
Wtf. I want them to remember at least 70-80% of this.
It's the basic stuff.
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holy chit 50% on one exam?

half mercy op these people are only human
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post 1472090301 11-21-2016, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By stronglogic⏩
The problem with mathematicians is that they want to push their rigorous chit into engineering programs, which would be valid if it were of any use later, but it never is.
How can you understand something without being rigourous.
This makes dumb engineers.

Honestly if it was only of me, the first year in engineering would be only mathematics courses. How are engineers supposed to understand anything without the right tools first.
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
Freshman
Fall----------------------------Spring
Calculus 1--------------------Calculus 2

Sophomore
Fall----------------------------Spring
Calculus 3--------------------Differential Equations


Edit: What's the name of your class?
this... wtf? how could they possibly be prepared for vector calculus and differential equations as freshmen, and teaching them both in one semester as ONE CLASS? wut
post 1472090381 11-21-2016, 05:45 PM
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Either troll or clueless. Are you sure you understand what you've been tasked with correctly? Even well-qualified freshmen would be wasting their time with this material so early in their education.

Is the expectation that all these students have already finished multi-variable calculus in high school? When I was in school (albeit 10 years ago), there was no way to have passed multi-variable calc before freshmen year.

I suppose if you took AP Calc 2-3 in 11th grade, then took night classes in college it is possible, but to build a freshman syllabus based on that assumption seems insane.
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post 1472090771 11-21-2016, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By YasiinBey⏩
holy chit 50% on one exam?

half mercy op these people are only human
I had plenty of courses with only two 50% exams. The problem is that more exams mean more grading for me and losing valuable time in class. Also, there is two part in this course, hence two exams.
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Originally Posted By Brocq17⏩
I took it as a sophomore alongside Calc4 and was promptly driven to insanity by the overload of math that semester.
I took it second year of engineering as well (most did), but the course number for my school indicated a junior level course.

And u wot m9? Calc 4? We only had three - I guess y'all just covered less material in each calc course?
Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
But if I add quizzes we lose time for more material.
Just add a "simple" 1-2 question quiz each week in the last 10-15 minutes of class. I even had a couple engineering classes that had their quizzes during designated "discussion" sections that were held once a week outside of normal class times (usually later in the afternoon).

Your students will probably not like you for giving them a quiz every week (esp. if it's on friday, as they won't be able to go out drinking thurs night lol), but it WILL help most of them learn the material better.
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
How can you understand something without being rigourous.
This makes dumb engineers.

Honestly if it was only of me, the first year in engineering would be only mathematics courses. How are engineers supposed to understand anything without the right tools first.
I'm just saying that while you can teach everything, you don't need to make exams difficult. My math exams were always super hard and I don't remember a single situation IRL where I had to actually calculate hard differential equations myself by hand, for example.
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To be honest, I did my undergraduate years in a french university (in Canada) and I have some hard time to relate with what you call "Calculus 1, 2 and 3" and "AP thing".
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
I had plenty of courses with only two 50% exams. The problem is that more exams mean more grading for me and losing valuable time in class. Also, there is two part in this course, hence two exams.
Two midterms and a final - minimum. Asking your students to learn and remember too much information between testing periods will result in low grades, meaning you'll have to figure out how to curve the grades, and have to deal with more disgruntled students. I had a physics phd student teach us the intro E&M course, and dude had no idea how to make the tests doable in the time given, which resulted in him becoming stressed out and having to conjure up some abstruse method for adjusting the grades.
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post 1472091961 11-21-2016, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By EEBreh⏩
ITT I post the reaction of the college freshman on their first day of class.


That seems way above what a college freshman would know.
Lmao



Op you forgot to include tensor analysis. If you gonna try to make your students commit suicide, might as well not hold back


Pro tip: don't give out a bunch of work. Grading chit gets old fast. Also make your chit easy to grade
post 1472092381 11-21-2016, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted By everblue⏩
Lmao



Op you forgot to include tensor analysis. If you gonna try to make your students commit suicide, might as well not hold back


Pro tip: don't give out a bunch of work. Grading chit gets old fast. Also make your chit easy to grade
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post 1472092641 11-21-2016, 06:03 PM
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only 2 exams? Do 2 midterms and 1 final. count the final as 2 exams and drop lowest grade.
post 1472092881 11-21-2016, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
To be honest, I did my undergraduate years in a french university (in Canada) and I have some hard time to relate with what you call "Calculus 1, 2 and 3" and "AP thing".
Location is not listed on your profile.

In the US, most college oriented high school students take about 1.5 years of calculus in high school. They cover everything up to multi-variable calculus. Calculus is considered "college level" math in the US, so the program that offers that math level in high school is called "Advanced Placement", aka "AP". Calculus 1, 2, 3 refer to the three semesters of calculus offered at high school level in the US (the 1.5 years i referred to earlier).

In universities, most students retake at least a part of calculus. Usually, students who performed well in the high school level calculus start with single-variable calculus (starting with simple integration). That's the 1st semester of freshmen year. The second semester is usually some combination of multi-variable calculus and infinite series.

Most college students don't touch differential equations until 2nd year. The course work you described in your OP would be a complete waste of time for American freshmen. My experience was that 9/10 people had terrible high school teachers and barely understood basic calculus beyond memorizing some short hand formulas without any deeper understanding of what they were doing.

Good luck is all i can say if you actually attempt to implement the curriculum in your OP!
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
Location is not listed on your profile.

In the US, most college oriented high school students take about 1.5 years of calculus in high school. They cover everything up to multi-variable calculus. Calculus is considered "college level" math in the US, so the program that offers that math level in high school is called "Advanced Placement", aka "AP". Calculus 1, 2, 3 refer to the three semesters of calculus offered at high school level in the US (the 1.5 years i referred to earlier).

In universities, most students retake at least a part of calculus. Usually, students who performed well in the high school level calculus start with single-variable calculus (starting with simple integration). That's the 1st semester of freshmen year. The second semester is usually some combination of multi-variable calculus and infinite series.

Most college students don't touch differential equations until 2nd year. The course work you described in your OP would be a complete waste of time for American freshmen. My experience was that 9/10 people had terrible high school teachers and barely understood basic calculus beyond memorizing some short hand formulas without any deeper understanding of what they were doing.

Good luck is all i can say i you try to implement the curriculum in your OP!
How old are the typical freshman?
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
How old are the typical freshman?
18-19
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Originally Posted By stronglogic⏩
I'm just saying that while you can teach everything, you don't need to make exams difficult. My math exams were always super hard and I don't remember a single situation IRL where I had to actually calculate hard differential equations myself by hand, for example.
Hmmm.. I can remember my only course in statistical physics. The exams were so hard (impossible) that the average for the midterm was 16% and something like 20% for the final.

I nevertheless got an A (there was an A+ possible), but this is one of the hardest class I ever had because of the teacher. The exams were designed to instill fear in the students. On the final we had like eight questions for two hours and each question was a legit 2-3 page of hard maths.
Originally Posted By PeteJonesHTX⏩
Two midterms and a final - minimum. Asking your students to learn and remember too much information between testing periods will result in low grades, meaning you'll have to figure out how to curve the grades, and have to deal with more disgruntled students. I had a physics phd student teach us the intro E&M course, and dude had no idea how to make the tests doable in the time given, which resulted in him becoming stressed out and having to conjure up some abstruse method for adjusting the grades.
I have two subjects that are not really related, vector calculus and differential equations.

Should I make something like:
-1st exam on vector calculus
-2nd exam on vector calulus + differential equations
-3rd exam on differential equations
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the drop rate will be high if the students can only depend on two tests to pass.

give pop quizzes so the students are forced to pay attention and study.

give homework too so the students know exactly what to study for. you don't have to make them turn it in, just assign them certain questions in the textbook and say its entirely up to them if they want to pass or not.

dont be a lazy fuk op
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Originally Posted By everblue⏩
Lmao



Op you forgot to include tensor analysis. If you gonna try to make your students commit suicide, might as well not hold back


Pro tip: don't give out a bunch of work. Grading chit gets old fast. Also make your chit easy to grade
I don't think engineers have tensor analysis. Physicists and applied mathematicians do, but I have no idea for engineers.

Maybe I should give a complete formula sheet for the exams?
But I want my students not just rely on a formula sheet.
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Originally Posted By PeteJonesHTX⏩
18-19
do you even america? 17-18 is the right answer.
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
Hmmm.. I can remember my only course in statistical physics. The exams were so hard (impossible) that the average for the midterm was 16% and something like 20% for the final.

I nevertheless got an A (there was an A+ possible), but this is one of the hardest class I ever had because of the teacher. The exams were designed to instill fear in the students. On the final we had like eight questions for two hours and each question was a legit 2-3 page of hard maths.



I have two subjects that are not really related, vector calculus and differential equations.

Should I make something like:
-1st exam on vector calculus
-2nd exam on vector calulus + differential equations
-3rd exam on differential equations
Looks good. Sometimes you just have to squeeze in a lot of material in a short amount of time. That's just how academia works.
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i'd take 50% midterm 50% exam over gay as phuck assignments any day
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
do you even america? 17-18 is the right answer.
Wat?

It's normal to graduate highschool at 18. There will be very few 17 year olds in the second semester of a freshman class.
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
Freshman
Fall----------------------------Spring
Calculus 1--------------------Calculus 2

Sophomore
Fall----------------------------Spring
Calculus 3--------------------Differential Equations

This was exactly my schedule except I started with Pre-cal and I did Cal 2 in the summer semester of my freshman year. The easiest for me was Cal 3. The most enjoyable was Cal 2.

In regards to OP, PLEASE do not Fuk this up. Differential Equation is an easy subject that can be made incredibly hard by having a DUMB instructor. Keep this in mind. You are there to TEACH the students. Not to show off how much you know or how easy it is for you to do.

Vector Calculus is easy, so can't possibly fuk that up. BTW what is your course called? With most colleges in The U.S the material for Vector Calculus and Diff EQ is separated.
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Originally Posted By snowyowl⏩
I don't think engineers have tensor analysis. Physicists and applied mathematicians do, but I have no idea for engineers.

Maybe I should give a complete formula sheet for the exams?
But I want my students not just rely on a formula sheet.
It's necessary for continuum mechanics
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50% for exams is really harsh OP, especially the midterm. Add in homework that's submitted online and just give credit to those who turned in something that looks relatively complete. Maybe even add in attendance for a grade. That should bring the midterm to about 35% which is more than reasonable
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