that pretty much sums up dating from ages 20-29
my average numbers run like this
i get 10 numbers, 9 will respond, 8 will want to meet up, 4-5flake, 2 of the flakes will want to reschedule, 1 of those rescheduales will flake again

so basicaly out of 10girls ill likely actually meet up with 3-4 of them
but i know guys that will go through 10-20girls and only be able to hangout with 1-2 of them

i thought that was just the regular misc?

Thanks brah, I'll listen to the voice of experience. Was planning NC when she messages me? Suitable or any other suggestions?

Also brah was your situation recent. Man legit has made me sad that. Total kunt

Yup. 100 percent numbers game. My success rate was in the 10-15 percent range. Then women talk about my privilege...lulz

Yes, she left on halloween in the middle of the night. I never realized how much of a ball and chain she was.

Sensory processing disorder diagnosed, borderline (i am 99% sure)

just send one message "i don't have time for games", and NC

Nail on the head

If I get 6 number ona night out. I only expect to meet up with 1 of those girls, 2 max

Will do brah. Have you heard from her and what happened?

Guessing you told her to kick rocks?

Feeling your pain brah but not on tinder.

Was chatting with a nice woman from work for over a year.
We work in different buildings a mile apart so I didn't see her often.
Asked her out and she said sure.
Go to confirm the next week and I get stood up for Dodgeball.... Dodgeball FFS.

Losing all hope in these creatures.

Exactly, these aren't tinder sloots Im striking out with, these are women I actually know in person. Been trying to meet new ones recently but haven't been having much luck. Im trying to self assess and trying to look for quality women in environments where alcohol isn't involved but it's not been too fruitful for the time being

EDIT: I live in the UK btw. I grew up in the US and don't remember even American women being this bad.

Went to Romania a couple of months ago and got treated like a damn king by this 8/10 surgeon chick I met there who travels all the time. She still texts me and calls me perfect and chit, yet I can't even get a bish who proposed a date to show up to it here. Tf is this chit.

3 weeks of NC i asked my friend to send her a letter that I wrote myself, I didn't send the letter through mail because she'd probably throw it away, I laid it out that if she didn't respond to me I was going to assume I'm dead to her and I'll call myself single.

Single and have been waking up happy and going to bed happy, have never had such good sleep

i will never talk to her ever again, i offered my entire unconditional love and loyalty and was betrayed.

never.again.



also she told my friend to fuk off and i crossed a line by contacting her, then she posted on her timeline (i am blocked but my friend told me) "if anyone else relays me a fukking message i will blah blah blah"

You're legit much better off


But at the same time strong what the ****?! You dodged a freight train here. Doesn't even sound like she was playing games, just sounds straight nuts.


Saying that, things like that actually make it so much easier. I had a long term gf we broke up and a week later she messaged me saying she was seeing this guy and was happy (after being together 3 years srs). It actually helped me get over her a lot quicker. She came back a month later after it didn't work out and I told her to fuk off. They're victims to their own retarded actions I swear

you're telling me

i had already bought her wedding ring but hadn't finalized the marriage

if i did i would be losing half my house/car and money

What's up for the 20's? Maybe things will finally turn around and get good

I do have 2 daughters and I know things are different now. I did my best to raise them in the similar way I was raised. My parents drilled into my head to respect and treat everyone in same way you would want to be treated.

Both my parents are incredibly hard working people. Very supportive and loving towards each other...even all these years later.

Not something you see much anymore.

Right in the feels brah

Pics of daughters ☺ ?

I hope it worked out

I do think maybe Im just not attracting women of quality

Damn RIP puppers.

Don't give up on dating OP, srs. A lot of women will flake for different reasons.
1) They don't feel a connection
2) They want a chad and not a man
3) They think they can do better
4) Theyre just a sloot

With dating I'd go with your gut feeling.

Uk girls are particularly flakey in my opinion OP

fuk women, you have to train so hard your hair falls out

this, i lost interest in the whole dating thing a while ago but my numbers were similar, usually 1 smash for 15 or so phone numbers. getting 15 numbers though usually meant 40-50 cold approaches, didn't bother with online/tinder game and nightclubs.

it's a numbers game just like sales. also the guys not getting anywhere with women act very similar to the way sales people do when not hitting targetsfor example, if someone hasn't closed a sale in a while they get overly invested in the one 'big deal' they've been working on. then that falls through lol and it's panic mode, or incase of dating it's time to ldar heu heu heu. whereas the guys smashing their targets have a kind of abundance mentality, every close is just another deal and if one falls through then they quickly rebound with another deal waiting to be closed.

tldr don't be scared homie

They're out there. Don't give up.

I got extremely lucky and couldn't have got with a better girl (21) if I tried. 8+/10 before I met her in person, now she's totally 9+/10 to me and if she started lifting she'd easily be my 10. Met on Tinder which she was using just for lols (pick up lines) and to browse. She had this "real" and "genuine" presence in her pictures, so my opener to her was natural and that of a normal IRL conversation and perhaps that made me stand out - because I came off as a person that wanted something "real" as she put it. I at the same time noticed right off the bat with her I could have normal text conversations. Great grammar, sentence structure, etc. and put noticeable effort into things (her use of emojis is 10/10). No games, just an innocent good girl with no bad intentions. Studies crazy hard, smart AF. Our text convos are often giant paragraphs since we're not always glued to our phones. Like sending instant letters.

Got in a relationship without even smashing yet because I liked her as a person and my intuition told me to because why not. Then I found out she was a virgin. Gave her time/space and my understanding so she could be comfortable. And now we've been together 8 months and couldn't be happier.

How much would it break you if she made you wait that long for sex.

But you found out she let 10+ Chads smash first night off tinder

Man i'm so glad I got with my gf, met freshman year of college and been in a relationship for 6 years. Legit best friend. Never played games with me, just had honest intentions that she liked me and wanted to hangout.

There were a bunch of girls in college that I was around, and holy ****, I would never attempt dating again. I wanted to bash my head against the wall with all the games and confused sloots. So many flaky bitches that set stuff up and always have some retarded excuse. These girls just like having people interested in them, and have no intention of following through with 9/10 of the guys they are spinning. Just game playing for days. And that's just the first step for dating. If you finally get a girl to meetup, you will find out that 98% of girl have third wave feminism inflating their egos and entitlement, and will expect that you pay for them and pamper them despite their cries for equality and equal opportunities to make money.

I have a friend that went on a date with a chick and paid for her, and after the date she legit said "thanks, but this was just practice for another date I have later with a guy i'm really interested in"......... dude literally got cucked. Sloots are vicious out there boyos.

Who knows. I hope to have a lot of money saved by then. I'll just get stoned all the time and buy escorts. I mean you read stories like this.... \/ \/ \//\ /\ /\ ....and you don't even bat an eyelash or consider it might be trolling. What a garbage sloot that is. I hope your friend told her that, too. That she was a garbage person.

The way I see it, society is moving more towards manipulation, insincerity, sarcasm, and narcissism. Everyone is too chickensh!t to be criticized, so instead of speaking their truth they speak a half baked version of it with a smug, patronizing, sarcastic tone and float it out as a feeler before really investing in any form of sincerity. It's why people on social media ignore anything anyone shares that they personally created.

The guy that starts a business? People will say he's full of himself, "spamming" his link everywhere. To these jackasses it's annoying to see this entrepreneur promote his hard work. Another guy shares a page from his ******* diary complaining about someone that was rude in public, and he gets dozens of likes and support. People love to see other people suffering or in awkward situations, it's the weirdest thing. Airing dirty laundry is a common practice on ********, and garners a lot of attention. Promoting something you worked hard on and hoping to monetize your passion and people just think you're spamming and showing off.

Society is ass backwards. Creativity and intellectualism is stigmatized, being a manipulative prick is the way forward in most circumstances.

really nothing you can do


I just learn to expect it

It really is.. i dont think its being an azzhole. But i also think women have 0 concept, since they literally cant even fathom it as its not their reality, what it would be like to NOT have tons of options.

Theyre born with the vag and know men are horny.

They come off so callous but its not because theyre callous by nature (even though indirectly they really are) its because they never have to face anything. They have never have to be confronted with their actions because there is 100% going to be a dude that puts up with their chit. Even moreso if they ask to suck his dik

Well said...

Damn brutal lol. Guess that's our version when we sleep with less attractive women for practice