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post 1475782011 12-20-2016, 03:15 AM
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Whey is just protein, convenient but not necessary.
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
me and my friend were arguing about how important protein was for getting gains, i was trying to tell him that whey protein is BS and is only for people that don't have time to cook their own meals

he says that if you want to get big, you HAVE to consume whey protein for extra protein

it's amazing how brainwashed people are into thinking that whey protein is this magical supplement that is going to give you gains, when they don't understand the simple concept of macronutrients. all whey protein is is a chemical substitute for protein, which you should be consuming through whole foods like beans, meat, and nuts.

i understand if you need whey protein on-the-go if you don't have time to cook all the time, but if you think its ESSENTIAL to have a good body then just LMAO @ YOU

also I was telling him how you only need about .8g protein/1 lb of bodyweight but so many people think you need to take 1.5g+/1lb of bodyweight... just lmao

then he disregard everything i said and just said "thanks for reminding me, i gotta take my whey protein for the day" just lmao...
your friend is a non lifting *******
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lmao at taking whey protein every single day, good night sweet kidney function.
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just lmao @ protein in general

carbs is where it's at
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I take weigh only when I'm not hungry. Otherwise I just eat meat, why the fuk would I consume weigh instead of some delicious beef lmao.

if you want to spend money on supps, buy creatine, EFAs and vit D3.
Caffeine if you need the occasional preworkout boost.
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This thread is all over the place, reps for anyone who can give proper summary of pros and cons
post 1475784241 12-20-2016, 04:12 AM
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just fukkin eat

prote shakes if you want that extra protein

in conjunction, placebo effect is real
post 1475784291 12-20-2016, 04:13 AM
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In4 more anecdotal perspectives. Did anybody switch from lots of whey to lots of meat and see bodily changes?

I like whey just for the taste :S
post 1475784341 12-20-2016, 04:15 AM
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Everyone knows all you need is whey protein to look like lifetime drugfree superheroes such as Mike O'Hearn and Kali Muscle.
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Originally Posted By CatabolicBrah⏩
protein is protein but getting adequate amount is not easy and no one wants to eat
eggs and chicken breast all the time.
so supplementing with whey is a smart way to go.

EDIT: and what do you mean by whey is a chemical substitute for protein?

whey is as natural as "real food" lmao
No, it's easy as hell, as long as your diet isn't fuking retarded and consists mostly of whole foods (meats/grains/nuts/veggies/fruit etc) instead of 90% poptarts and ice cream then you should be getting enough protein pretty much by default. The only times you need to be more mindful is if you're cutting where you have a limited number of calories to allocate to protein. If you honestly struggle to hit 1 gram per lb lbm in protein then your diet is flat out retarded or you're a vegan.
post 1475785131 12-20-2016, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
If you put someone on almost primarily whey protein and another guy on almost primarily chicken and other meats, the whey guy would look like chit by comparison if all other factors were equal.

No pro has specifically said this.. But they have said it without saying it, beat around the bush about it, etc. Rich Piana is pretty candid about it saying always choose real food when available. A few pros have had the balls to come out and admit they only drink whey when food isnt available even when the supps company sponsors them.
You're just making chit up. Stop. Also, Rich Piana is not a pro
Originally Posted By Dee9191⏩
This thread is all over the place, reps for anyone who can give proper summary of pros and cons
Most experts and studies agree that lifters need .8-1g of protein per pound of bodyweight for proper repair and growth. There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating more though if that's your preference

Whey is a decent alternative to "grocery store" proteins like fish, meat, poultry and eggs. Its a far superior protein to incomplete sources like beans and soy proteins

I have seen diets from pros that get half of their protein intake from whey and others that consume almost none. It really all comes down to preference it seems.
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post 1475785251 12-20-2016, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
I think 0.8g per pound of lean body weight is good. So most bros only need like 130-200g a day
Whoever doubts 0.8g / lb and argues more is on that autist time, this includes plenty of posters above me in this thread.
Look at all those people down there, they follow the rules for what? They're letting fear lead them.

What happens if they don't?

Life's simple - you make choices and you dont look back.
post 1475785411 12-20-2016, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
You're just making chit up. Stop. Also, Rich Piana is not a pro



Most experts and studies agree that lifters need .8-1g of protein per pound of bodyweight for proper repair and growth. There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating more though if that's your preference

Whey is a decent alternative to "grocery store" proteins like fish, meat, poultry and eggs. Its a far superior protein to incomplete sources like beans and soy proteins

I have seen diets from pros that get half of their protein intake from whey and others that consume almost none. It really all comes down to preference it seems.
But Rich Piana could easily win his pro card. He is huge, perfectly proprtional, symmetrical and peeled to the skin. He also looks 10x more aesthetic than most of pro bb'ers.



















































































































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It's not hard at all to get the protein you need from your meals. The supplement market on the whole is the biggest scam and I feel bad for people who waste money on all the stupid supplements that are peddled.

Take a multi if you diet isn't getting you everything you need, drink a protein shake if you are unable to hit your target through your meals (most days you shouldn't need to drink one though, it really isn't hard), creatine if you want and that is that.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
You're just making chit up. Stop. Also, Rich Piana is not a pro



Most experts and studies agree that lifters need .8-1g of protein per pound of bodyweight for proper repair and growth.There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating more thoughif that's your preference

Whey is a decent alternative to "grocery store" proteins like fish, meat, poultry and eggs. Its a far superior protein to incomplete sources like beans and soy proteins

I have seen diets from pros that get half of their protein intake from whey and others that consume almost none. It really all comes down to preference it seems.
You have been deceived by supplement industry shills. Protein overconsumption places a tremendous amount of stress on the renal system, and results in a loss of calcium. A calcium deficiency will result in a weakened skeletal state, and weaker muscle contractions which is detrimental to weight lifters.
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post 1475787241 12-20-2016, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
just lmao at making threads about how much food you need to get huge if you dont actually wear a size large shirt normally.
lol this.

xl-2xl here, but I is a fatfuk kinda
post 1475787271 12-20-2016, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Bloodmane92⏩
Protein overconsumption places a tremendous amount of stress on the renal system
Let's see the studies that support your claim

I have been deceived by no one. I review material and come to my own conclusions. I purchase very little in the way of sports supplements. The stuff I use is mostly general health supplements backed by research
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OP is right. All you need in grams of protein is .8g protein/1lb bodyweight. Whey protein supplements are big business and the only time you should probably take it is when you don't have time to eat.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Let's see the studies that support your claim

I have been deceived by no one. I review material and come to my own conclusions. I purchase very little in the way of sports supplements. The stuff I use is mostly general health supplements backed by research
This is indisputable fact as per the A.C.S.M.'s recommendations, which is the largest body of scientific research related to Exercise Science. The issue with you arriving at your own conclusions is you likely aren't qualified to so unless you possess a background in Exercise Physiology and Anatomy & Physiology. Anyway, I did a quick Google search for studies related to protein overconsumption to satisfy you. Apparently, adverse effects related to excessive protein span far and wide.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045293/
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Originally Posted By Dee9191⏩
This thread is all over the place, reps for anyone who can give proper summary of pros and cons
Don't quote me. i will report all your bodyspace pics/neg u (im not lying). I have no life so i have all day to ruin urs.
post 1475788101 12-20-2016, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Jimagine88⏩
OP is right. All you need in grams of protein is .8g protein/1lb bodyweight. Whey protein supplements are big business and the only time you should probably take it is when you don't have time to eat.
You're the type of dumbfuk that perpetuates this bullchit.


First off it isnt PER LB OF BODY WEIGHT you dolt, its per pound of LEAN MASS
Secondly, there is no report that says 1gb per/lb, nor .8.....its dependent upon your needs.....you think a soccer mom of 3 at 5'2 110lbs needs 110g of protein? Get the fuk out of here
There are people who are leaner and better looking than you that consume .4g of protein per lb of lean mass.....yet some how you believe the bullchit you spew?

The only time you should take it is when you dont have time?

But who was low glycemic index?
But who was great macros?
But who was easy on the stomach for digesting?
But who was taste?
But who was almost 96% protein per scoop?
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Originally Posted By Bloodmane92⏩
This is indisputable fact as per the A.C.S.M.'s recommendations, which is the largest body of scientific research related to Exercise Science. The issue with you arriving at your own conclusions is you likely aren't qualified to so unless you possess a background in Exercise Physiology and Anatomy & Physiology. Anyway, I did a quick Google search for studies related to protein overconsumption to satisfy you. Apparently, adverse effects related to excessive protein span far and wide.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045293/
I don't need a degree in anything to interpret a study

I'll give you credit for actually posting something though
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I don't need a degree in anything to interpret a study

I'll give you credit for actually posting something though
Id say every strong man, power lifter, bodybuilder, extreme athlete that all consume over 6-10k cal's a day beg to differ that it has some adverse reaction of over protein consumption.

Did the carbohydrate industry pay for this study? :P
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
You're the type of dumbfuk that perpetuates this bullchit.


First off it isnt PER LB OF BODY WEIGHT you dolt, its per pound of LEAN MASS
Secondly, there is no report that says 1gb per/lb, nor .8.....its dependent upon your needs.....you think a soccer mom of 3 at 5'2 110lbs needs 110g of protein? Get the fuk out of here
There are people who are leaner and better looking than you that consume .4g of protein per lb of lean mass.....yet some how you believe the bullchit you spew?
Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
lol this.

xl-2xl here, but I is a fatfuk kinda
Stfu you fatfuk. Go eat your 120lb lean bodymass *.8g protein = 96g protein. That's all you need you fat fuk.




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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
You're just making chit up. Stop. Also, Rich Piana is not a pro



Most experts and studies agree that lifters need .8-1g of protein per pound of bodyweight for proper repair and growth. There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating more though if that's your preference

Whey is a decent alternative to "grocery store" proteins like fish, meat, poultry and eggs. Its a far superior protein to incomplete sources like beans and soy proteins

I have seen diets from pros that get half of their protein intake from whey and others that consume almost none. It really all comes down to preference it seems.
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Originally Posted By Jimagine88⏩
Stfu you fatfuk. Go eat your 120lb lean bodymass *.8g protein = 96g protein. That's all you need you fat fuk.
Come fight me IRL *******!

u mad? dont be mad bruh

edit: My lean mass is greater than yours, I can assure you
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Come fight me IRL *******!

u mad? dont be mad bruh
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I can understand the distrust of the fitness/supplement industry, but I never understood why people choose whey protein to attack (unless it's a brand that amino acid spikes, or uses cheaper milk concentrates/whey concentrates).

Surely whey is the one legitimate "supplement." It's just protein with a complete amino acid profile. Sure it doesn't benefit you anymore than egg whites/chicken breast, but it's convenient and relatively cheap. I don't really even consider it a "supplement," but rather just a grocery item...

With all the BS crap out there produced by supplement companies, complete with flimsy/falsified "studies," people choose whey... Lmao.


Edit: Lol'd at "chemical substitute" for protein.
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Originally Posted By Jimagine88⏩
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0.8g/ LEAN lb of bw or 1g/lb of BW, ive never understood why if your looking to maximize gains, you wont consume what amounts to an extra 30-40g of protein. Like fuk obviously real food is GOAT but 40g of protein is like a scoop and a half of whey, which depending on the brand is roughly a $1 so its not breaking the bank

also i find whey proteins greatest benefit is during a cut when im trying to keep my protein intake around 1g/lb of BW as it supplies lots of protein but no other macros so the calories are lower

on a bulk ill just eat more fuking food

obviously 1/5g-2/lb is BS but whey does have a place in a muscle building diet if you arent consuming enough food
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