You lost the smell/sense/look of desperation. Your confidence is up

Indeed.

There is some truth to this.

OP doesn't 'need' to do anything.

Given your previous posts, I gather your call for action is entirely gender-based, as in these adult women are somehow being victimized by OP. Not even remotely the case. He doesn't owe it to them to answer questions not being asked, and he would be insulting their autonomy and agency by trying to 'save them from themselves'.

All are adults in this situation. All are responsible for their own choices and actions. Stop infantilizing these women.

don't respond to the self proclaimed misc genius who can barely phrase her sentences with proper grammar and has opinions that are legitimate nonsense....I honestly have no clue how it is not in the red

He does need to be better. Especially with so many here encouraging him to exploit those two young women, their feelings and the situation they are in as long as possible.
He doesn't have emotions for them, but they have and they won't / can't stop it any time soon - you'll certainly know this from your own experiences in life as well how hard it is to break away from someone whom you love or like very much, no matter if they are good or not for you.

His mind isn't clouded by feelings, he needs to pick up his responsibility and end it with them. Their all wishes and views are CLEARLY NOT compatible now or in any foreseeable future. So be decent and end things now, stop creating suffering and harm.

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OP, do those two women know that you are seeing and meeting them both?

~~~1. I never proclaimed such thing. But interesting to know now that you see me that way.

2. Last time I checked this site hasn't offered / been about courses in English. But if you want to play English teacher here nonetheless, at least criticise and cry about every user with mistakes in their texts and stop harassing people just because you can't speak anything else apart from English.

As long as you said this and consistently be truthful about it, I don't see the problem.
I guess MeFromG expects you to treat them like children and make the decision on their behalf (i.e. remove their agency).

I guess the only ethically questionable bit is whether you should proactively tell them you are dating more than 1 person.

Stop talking yourself into this nonsense, you don't treat anyone like a child when you see that you and the other person are clearly incompatible and consequently end things for the good of everyone involved. According to OP they have caught feelings and wish for a relationship. He doesn't. There is absolutely no common ground there anymore. He needs to be reasonable, decent and stop leading them on - like he already anticipated himself.

Unfortunately almost everyone in this thread is pushing him to exploit those two people, who on top of it are still very young, less experienced, more vulnerable etc.

He himself needs to end it rather sooner than later.

Yeah if he's told them plainly he doesn't want a relationship; he has been straight; but having sex with more than once person at a time is a slightly different kettle of fish.

For one thing, it's the most effective possible way of spreading std's (even with condoms you still have hpv, hsv etc. risk).

As for their feelings; yeah they prob. will get hurt, even having been told he's not looking for a relationship, but I suppose the earlier you learn the lesson that "I don't want a relationship" isn't code for "change my mind", the better. A harsh but important lesson.

At that age, I'd imagine they'll move on to other guys v quickly. You don't tend to sit around thinking about things v much in your teens/early 20's.

Hang on, I'm not advising exploitation - I'm advising to be honest and upfront about everything. At what age do you consider a person to have agency and responsibility?

I'm not too sure about finding Ms. Right anywhere around here, that's for sure. At the same time, getting laid helps in the sense that I no longer give a fck about trying to find Ms. Right and I'm ok with focusing on the things I have to do. My life is busy from 5 am to 8 pm pretty much every day so it's a welcome relief to get laid here and there in order to not have weird male thoughts that cloud my judgement.That's kind of where I was going in my thought process too but now MeFromG is going full ham in here.

Alright, so I'm seeing that MeFromG is saying words like "exploit" in here.

Let's get a few things straight. I'm not exploiting anyone. I was clear from the start that I didn't want a relationship and that I don't have time for a relationship. As for a breakdown of the 2 girls:


21 year old

-Very sexual
-Hippie free love type
-Has dated women in the past as well as men, etc (you get the idea)
-Has a troubled past with sex and relationships
-Told me last night during post-sex talk that she doesn't see herself with anyone else, that she likes being around me, that she could see herself with me and then asked me if I felt the same (question came out of nowhere)
-I told her I don't have time for a relationship and that neither of us know where we're going to be in 6-7 months from now
-She agreed with that but I can completely tell it's not what she wanted to hear

19 year old

-Very inexperienced sexually but 100% down to please, it's unbelievable
-Very conservative type
-Only had 1 relationship before
-Too rigid in her views, said she wouldn't be comfortable with me talking to a friend I've had for 6+ years because she's a woman
-I told her that's ridiculous, my friend is engaged and we're just friends, she realized her view is probably wrong but still feels that way
-Also doesn't want a full on relationship but wants an exclusive deal (basically a relationship without the planning for the future)
-I call her out on how she wants all the benefits without titles, etc
-Lack of experience really shows in how she views things



Neither of these women know about the other and no one in their right mind would ever say such a thing. I didn't plan on dating both of them at the same time, it just happened that way. 21 year old slipped me her number at a restaurant, 19 year old told me she didn't want to see me and then changed her mind right after I started seeing 21 year old. I think it was within a day or two. It all sort of happened instantaneously.

BOTH OF THEM KNOW I DON'T WANT A RELATIONSHIP and yet they still want to see me all the time. Another case of them thinking they'll change my mind? A case of them hoping I come around and fall in love? I'm not sure but there's no exploitation going on here. I feel like trash dating two women because I hate that kind of crap but I also don't want to break it off with either of them because there's a good chance that both of them will change their mind in .03 seconds considering their age and the fact that 19 year old has been sooooo hot/cold and 21 year old is free love central. There's no way I can date either of them seriously but I like being around both of them.

So, am I a garbage human being? I guess so according to some in here. I don't think that and yet I still feel that way and I'm not even sure why.

Fo sho IMO

I've had gutter/cheating sl00ts make me wait till date 4. I have the ability to make it out as well judging by how they talk. They ain't too bright and always tell things they prob shouldn't have.This man gets it. Nothing turns me on more than a reserved woman who respects herself.

There's gonna be a whole lotta 'tears an' snotters' as we say in Ireland ... you should know by now most females can't do sex without feelings.
Only good thing is, as you say, due to age they might move on quickly.

My oh my, aren't you being pretentious?! Now you are the de facto arbiter of what is good vs bad treatment between consenting adults?
Further,for you to make the assertion that he has no emotions for them is extremely grotesque. The spectrum of human emotion is vast, and his may fail to fit into your taxonomic system, but that does not preclude their existence on his behalf. He has already disclosed his exclamations of honesty with them both, which belies an emotional investment.

Yes, I do know how hard it is to separate from a person, but it is still my responsibility, as an adult with agency, to do so should I feel it necessary. I do not ascribe myself some victim status within my relationships, necessitating a more capable adult to come save me from myself or to make the decision for me because I am too weak or immature to do so. I would be insulted by that anyway, because I have dignity.

The stance you espouse is honestly one of the reasons that many women are becoming increasingly disgusting to men. It suggests that, depending on their whimsical mood, a woman is entitled to demand interchangeable treatment as a strong/independent/capable adult & a frail/dependent/powerless child. And these women charge the men around them with the responsibility of determining their state. And let me tell you, the stakes for men making a mistake in this arena can be grievous.

Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Have you smashed both women in the same day yet?

Brilliant post.

While I'd agree with some of this; the age difference in this scenario does have an impact for me.

When you're 19 -21 you think you're a big grown up adult; when you get to mid-late 20's and beyond, you realise you most definitely were not and in some ways you were vulnerable, esp. to more experienced folks.

I think Ranger's a good guy (aside from that time he negged me wrongly, assuming I was a troll due to my join date, and you still haven't repped me to make up for it now you know I'm not, Ranger ... but in this case I do think he'd be better to stop fkin with these girls, he's wasting his own time as well.

Nah dude.

I'm up at 5 am every day and usually get home around 8:30 pm every day. I don't have time for that ****. Hell, I'm only stopped by the house just now to drop off a few things and grab a cup of tea before heading off to get some more crap done.

Plus, I actually enjoy focusing on one person at a time. I don't see it as some sort of victory to bang multiple people in a day.You take those negs seriously. I'm still 50/50 on whether you're someone's alt account.

And how am I wasting my own time as well? This is easier than prostitution and every single guy on this planet thinks 100x more logically after not having to think about getting laid all the time. Plus, the sexual intimacy of these girls (especially 19 year old) is out of control. Instead of hearing about every crappy relationship a woman has had in the past (like when dating someone my age) it's almost a fresh start and it's full of good laughs. The only issue is having absolutely nothing in common with them.

MeFromG is a hardcore feminist troll, no need to explain or even respond to her. Ever.

Keep doing what you are doing and having fun with both. You deserve it. ANY guy here who disagrees is just jealous and should be ignored.

Repped for the sex details. Das it.

Edit: "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to US_Ranger again."

Well yes, that's why in general when they say when geezers like me or US Ranger get with the kids, the women are being exploited, and the men have the upper hand, regardless of age, lol.

I don't miss the 19 and 21 year old guys though, what a nightmare to try to have a conversation with them and their views were completely retarded, like they are going to make a ton of money bodybuilding, just lmao. But I guess everyone has to go through the young kid phase at some point to get it out of your system.

The problem is hurting them emotionally, and getting one accidentally pregnant. Those young ones are quite fertile and will poke holes in condoms or fish condoms out of the trash to impregnate themselves, to trap guys.

Man. Young girls are annoying as ****. I can't even start to comprehend how you think the sex is worth it. I couldn't do it.

Same here, I started down that path for a while with Tinder and then realized I couldn't even stand trying to chat with them.

Pretty simple really. I just don't ask deep, meaningful questions about things that would come from life experience. Conversation stays in the surface level area.

-What did you do today?
-How was work?
-Did you get that thing done you were supposed to do?



The funny part is that dating women my own age isn't really that much different. Sure they have more life experience and have a deeper understanding of how things work and what to expect but, on the flip side, I have to deal with them being jaded from said experience. Most conversation is still based on the exact questions above though and I find that most of them don't offer much more than that.

Working 10 years in HR vs being in college isn't that much of a change. Sure, things happen in that 10 years but if they haven't had to deal with serious stress in their life, they're just a 30-35 year old woman who's dating a bunch of guys in their life and have experiences based on that and office life.

No offense to anyone in here who lives a simple life like that either, it's not like I'm special. I think I just have issues relating to people in general and it's not age based but more lifestyle based. Hence why I can get along with young people just as well as older people. I would probably have more in common with a 22 year old who spent 2 years living in SE Asia than I would a 33 year old who got a communications degree and worked in an office.

Eventually they do start to annoy you. Maybe not during the initial love phase as dopamine runs high and the amygdala and the frontal and prefrontal cortices have reduced activity, but then when they ask you to use Snapchat and send non stop texts with "haha" after each statement and talk about getting drunk all of the time, it gets old

So would you if you were on poverty reps lol
(also it's the mammoth injustice of it that rustles my jimmies; when I was innocently goin about my business trying to help an op out).Nope, I couldn't be arsed with that. Besides I can't become a mod if I have alt accounts and I may want to someday (to get revenge on people with mod reps obviously. Joking (mainly).Cause it's not really what you're looking for (from what I assume from your posts), moreover it's a distraction & time-waster from what you're really looking for.

Those young girls are gonna go psycho when you dump them/move on, you know .. you better hope they move on 1st (unlikely since, as you don't give a fk, you're at your most attractive), really hope you're using condoms so there's no chance of an 'oops, I'm pregnant Ranger' situation.

Glute spread as avi goes a long way with these beta's sunshine, just sayin'

strong exploitation ITT

jokes

The reps wouldn't be worth the PM's I might get, nom sayin.

Besides, my ass is private viewing only

Already bought you Uggs, iPad and I even go to the gym so when the HELL will it be my turn?