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post 1479142671 01-15-2017, 08:34 AM
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They tried back during prohibition.

Didn't end very well.
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post 1479142811 01-15-2017, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah
Because millions of people enjoy alcohol responsibly. I believe all drugs should be legal but ive never met a responsible heroin user
Never had an elderly or older family member taking pain pills for pain? Not much difference.. most street drugs have a pharmaceutical that acts the same way.
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post 1479142861 01-15-2017, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By 300BLK
Because it pays taxes
Legitimate answer right here.

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug on the planet.
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post 1479143131 01-15-2017, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By badlasagna
uh okay
You have no answer.

Trust me, I'm all about my mind and if there was a drug to expand it I'd take it. I'd take gear for muscle development because I know it works. There is nothing that improves your mind because your mind is your collection of thoughts. The only way you can improve that is through work.
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post 1479143161 01-15-2017, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
Legitimate answer right here.

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug on the planet.
Most dangerous drug on the planet? Come on man.
post 1479143241 01-15-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
No drug expands your mind.
You'd be very surprised M8

I'm no "drug expert" by any means, barely even touch anything now including alcohol but I can assure you there is things going on in this world you will never understand.
Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
You have no answer.

Trust me, I'm all about my mind and if there was a drug to expand it I'd take it. I'd take gear for muscle development because I know it works. There is nothing that improves your mind because your mind is your collection of thoughts. The only way you can improve that is through work.
Smoke a very small amount of weed and listen to any random Alan watts lecture but actually pay attention and read deep into what he says and come back to me.

Although I doubt you will have the level of awareness to comprehend what's going on anyway
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post 1479143251 01-15-2017, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
Most dangerous drug on the planet? Come on man.
Do some research, it has ranked #1 on the most deadliest drug list for many years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6056d0faa989
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post 1479143481 01-15-2017, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
Do some research, it has ranked #1 on the most deadliest drug list for many years.
So you saying vodka is more dangerous then someone getting their hands on Versed or some chemo drugs? There's a reason why a lot of these drugs are highly controlled.
post 1479143491 01-15-2017, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
Do some research, it has ranked #1 on the most deadliest drug list for many years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6056d0faa989
Only because it is legal and can be bought over the counter, If Heroin or Benzos (*****) were free to buy OTC they would be x50 times worse
post 1479143521 01-15-2017, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
Do some research, it has ranked #1 on the most deadliest drug list for many years.
because it is also one of the most used drugs because it is legal and can be abused easily, where other drugs are not legal and are less abused, therefore less incidents.
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Prohibition worked well
post 1479143781 01-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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well its really weird. 2 weeks ago I drank 5 days straight from morning till early morning lol and I wasnt even sick or something. yesterday I drank again and I felt sick after 5 shots of vodka. few more shots and I even dance whole night. I woke up fuked up
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post 1479143801 01-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
Do some research, it has ranked #1 on the most deadliest drug list for many years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6056d0faa989
First off, you have a small minded definition of the word "drug"

Second, that study didn't normalize the numbers. Alcohol is legally and easily accessible to the masses. I seriously would have to do some research on where to pick up heroine even if I wanted it.

So obviously there will be more alcohol related crimes and incidents.
There are also a lot of deaths due to heart disease as well. Let's ban alcohol and food.
post 1479143871 01-15-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By boredFA
I took many other substances before and usually
I don't think alcohol but this weekend I did.
Well, alcohol is socially accepted and did with friends but holy fuark boyos I was throwing up 3x the next day and felt like **** that I just wanted to die

Mind blown that Alcohol is not banned and so easy to overdose
Had a few beers and shots, felt great until the comedown and throwing up tho
it should be illegal and it was banned once but how did that turn out? an underground trade fueling crime familiies.

much like the war on drugs, cartels and the government are just different sides of the same coin. both fueling the war/conflict

also tinfoil theory but i think the government likes it that people can get some kind of escape that makes them weak as kinda like population control; survival of the fittest etc. . alchohol is actually poison (i drink on special occasions)
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post 1479143981 01-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
So you saying vodka is more dangerous then someone getting their hands on Versed or some chemo drugs? There's a reason why a lot of these drugs are highly controlled.
Originally Posted By Veble
Only because it is legal and can be bought over the counter, If Heroin or Benzos (*****) were free to buy OTC they would be x50 times worse
You're both missing the point -- it's a literal statement based on facts. Argue the what-if's all you'd like, it doesn't change the facts.
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post 1479144141 01-15-2017, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By WrathOfPecan
There was a thing called Prohibition in the US. Some other countries have tried various forms of banning/restricting as well.



cliffs: it does not work. If fully banned, then a black market develops, or people just make it themselves because its not all that difficult.
Which in turn, creates more crime and more criminal enterprises and virtually creates a ground of funding for criminal enterprises.


It is a whole cluster **** the way the laws on substances are in the world. BRB don't ban alcohol because above reasons, but ban pills, synthetics, and weed because they are bad(they are) but they just do the SAME thing that banning alcohol does, they fund criminal enterprises and create a ton of other crime.
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post 1479144181 01-15-2017, 08:54 AM
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i agree

if alcohol is legal other drugs like ******* and heroin, opiates, marijuana meth all of it srs, should be

or none of them should be

i would equally support literally legalizing all drugs, not just decriminalizing them, so you can go buy them at the store, or making them all, including alcohol illegal. the double standard i find a bit weird.

i dont understand how a destructive drug like alcohol can be 'personal choice' but when you say, *******, people say, oh no its way too addicting, way too destructive. can't leave that up to people to use responsibly, they'll blow it. actually, some people can, and did, use these drugs legally for quite some time.

i would lean towards making everything, including alcohol, illegal.

prohibition of drugs sure has been working..

(i think if you added up all the facts you could make a good case that it's been working exactly how well they want it to)
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
You're both missing the point -- it's a literal statement based on facts. Argue the what-if's all you'd like, it doesn't change the facts.
Are you trolling or are you just retarded with numbers?

The fact is there are more incidents where people get hurt by dogs vs lions.
Based on this are you saying dogs are more dangerous than lions?
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
First off, you have a small minded definition of the word "drug"

Second, that study didn't normalize the numbers. Alcohol is legally and easily accessible to the masses. I seriously would have to do some research on where to pick up heroine even if I wanted it.

So obviously there will be more alcohol related crimes and incidents.
There are also a lot of deaths due to heart disease as well. Let's ban alcohol and food.
"Small-minded definition of the word, drug..."

A drug is a medicineor substancewhich has a physiological effect when ingested or introduced to the body....

I'm sorry if using science and fact as a basis for an argument is 'small-minded.'
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Originally Posted By abroom
All drugs should be legal.

It's your own body and if you allow any drug to ruin your life it's your own fault.
Keep that in mind when someone high off some crazy drug kills a family member driving
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
i agree

if alcohol is legal other drugs like ******* and heroin, opiates, marijuana meth all of it srs, should be

or none of them should be

i would equally support literally legalizing all drugs, not just decriminalizing them, so you can go buy them at the store, or making them all, including alcohol illegal. the double standard i find a bit weird.

i dont understand how a destructive drug like alcohol can be 'personal choice' but when you say, *******, people say, oh no its way too addicting, way too destructive. can't leave that up to people to use responsibly, they'll blow it. actually, some people can, and did, use these drugs legally for quite some time.

i would lean towards making everything, including alcohol, illegal.

prohibition of drugs sure has been working..

(i think if you added up all the facts you could make a good case that it's been working exactly how well they want it to)
So ban alcohol and telynol?
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^ like alcohol ?

and sure, ban tylenol, i personally dont use it or any sort of aspirin product. (it is not a drug with a neurological effect though, you cant get high off tylenol, unlike alcohol and coke which people think are so different for some reason)
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
"Small-minded definition of the word, drug..."

A drug is a medicineor substancewhich has a physiological effect when ingested or introduced to the body....

I'm sorry if using science and fact as a basis for an argument is 'small-minded.'
Ok so use your own definition and compare giving a teenager alcohol vs Verced.
Mess around with alcohol, due stupid things, get sick, maybe overdose.
Mess around with verced, die instantly
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
^ like alcohol ?

and sure, ban tylenol, i personally dont use it or any sort of aspirin product. (it is not a drug with a neurological effect though, you cant get high off tylenol, unlike alcohol and coke which people think are so different for some reason)
Awesome, so since you don't use it and it doesn't effect your life it's all good.

There are millions of people that rely on it daily.

You can't get high on it but you can still mess yourself up on it if taken enough.
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pharmaceuticals should only be given with prescription, and of course can be extremely dangerous when mixed (usually with alcohol, ironically, or each other)
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz
You're both missing the point -- it's a literal statement based on facts. Argue the what-if's all you'd like, it doesn't change the facts.
I'm pretty sure alcohol has way more negative physical effects on ur body then most drugs people abuse
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why do they use it cus they cant hack a headache?

it isnt a drug people use to get high, plain and simple. you are derailing the discussion.
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Originally Posted By boredFA
I took many other substances before and usually
I don't think alcohol but this weekend I did.
Well, alcohol is socially accepted and did with friends but holy fuark boyos I was throwing up 3x the next day and felt like **** that I just wanted to die

Mind blown that Alcohol is not banned and so easy to overdose
Had a few beers and shots, felt great until the comedown and throwing up tho
Guess they don't teach about prohibition anymore.

Can't handle booze, so ban it for others.

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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
why do they use it cus they cant hack a headache?

it isnt a drug people use to get high, plain and simple. you are derailing the discussion.
Things like aspirin do more than just cure headaches. For some it can help prevent heart attack.

We are having a discussion about "drugs" and if they should be available to the masses or not, correct?
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