But you didn't only care about yourself, right? So why does she think that? You have to take some ownership of the fact that maybe you lacked the communication skills to show her that you really cared about her in a way that she could receive them. Keep this in mind for your next relationship.

Also, if it was so clear, then why did she never speak up about it? She needs to take ownership of that, too.

Poor communication will kill even the best of relationships.

I'm not sure that's the right way...

I think he's saying he made the right choice by breaking up with her.

I can't give you constructive criticism unless you tell us the deets James.

All I can say at this point is learn from your mistakes in this relationship and correct them for the next one.

You seem proud of the fact that you are selfish. This is not good. You should work on this and atleast try not to show you a inre selfish.

Going to that show together will not make this easier for you brah. You need to tune her out.

It takes time and you shouldn't be down on yourself. It is counter-intuitive which is why so many men struggle to understand it, but it's counter intuitive because we're brought up on a steady diet of "just be yourself", "be honest", "the right one is out there for you" and "what's for you won't go by you".

Unfortunately that's all horse**** in practice, it took me a lot of experience, experimenting and practice to understand that and why it is like it is.

I won't delve too far into the theory, but you need to ask yourself a simple question - who benefits most from that kind of behaviour or advice?

Hint: The answers are revealed in Daisy's posts (this is not a dig at her); women want to know compatibility and suitability quickly. They don't want to waste time on a guy so therefore it benefits women to have everything out in the open to allow fast decisions on who they do and don't want. The problem is most of their selection criteria are unrealistic when they are not in the heat of the moment.


So, speaking purely on the meeting and attracting girls side, you've got to realize that it is all a game. Those who win are those who play skillfully, which means there are tactics and strategies that are reliable in providing positive results.

Think of it as understanding what makes the game fun for women - it's mystery, it's humour that are the most thrilling things for them. It's a game where the prize is you, women actually want to win you, the thing that turns them on and gets them excited (though I doubt any will admit it) is the thrill of beating other women to unwrap and explore this mystery prize.

You need to realize that women are hit on all the time and that 90% of those approaches are boring, the guy who is different or fun or has a 6-pack is the one that peaks her interest.

If no one else is playing for you and everything about you is on display after the first hand of the card game then the motivation and thrill is gone.

That's the best advice I can give you: don't take it personally, realize there are lots of women out there and understand that almost everything mainstream society tells you about how to attract women is BS.

Maintaining a relationship is a whole different area though....

THE GREAT TINDER DEBATE 2017

I have supplied otakutrevan with a few pictures of me to try on his Tinder page. I expect him to report back to this thread. They are below:

http://imgur.com/a/PuJ5x

http://imgur.com/a/JxlSb

http://imgur.com/a/ZnfT5

http://imgur.com/a/SweOO

Yes, I am aware I am a douche bag.

lol bro Stamkos used to play for the same local hockey team as myself, except he played the highest level lol

I played against him in school hockey ( I am a goalie) and he peppered the sh!t out of me....he also lived across the street of my brothers GF of 9 years

thats awesome manana!

I used to have a job where I spent a lot of time with athletes providing security and other services like transportation and such when they were here in town to do events with our company. It was a cool job. Stammer was cool, I tried to get him to come out with me that night but he had other plans.

I have a pic of Gordie Howe and myself on my other computer. It's an awesome picture actually, I'll post it here later if I remember. I was also a goalie for 3 years or so.

Okay boys, got some new developments cooking up. More info tomorrow.

lol bro Stamkos used to play for the same local hockey team as myself, except he played the highest level lol

I played against him in school hockey ( I am a goalie) and he peppered the sh!t out of me....he also lived across the street of my brothers GF of 9 years

It's not a chit test at all it's you teasing him gently which is what guys do as well but according Ponds when a girl teases it's a chit test. Obviously you Daisy went on a second date which is good for both parties and you share some similarities, but if a guy can't handle a little teasing or doesn't respond with a witty semi teasy come back to you then yes the chemistry loses quite a few points. Finding equal senses of humor and intelligence isn't a chit test it's called making sure the are on nearly the same wavelength as you.

Hint: The answers are revealed in Daisy's posts (this is not a dig at her); women want to know compatibility and suitability quickly. They don't want to waste time on a guy so therefore it benefits women to have everything out in the open to allow fast decisions on who they do and don't want.

Just like the animal kingdom.

So I have thought about it for a while, and I think I have figured out what my problem is and why I feel so fuucking strange lately. We get a sunny day once every 10 days or so here, and I truly think the lack of vitamin D has really been kicking my ass.

Not so patiently waiting...

Is this really a gender thing tho? Both Luc1er and meenman mentioned they cut to the chase pretty quickly as well and don't waste time. Beyond gender, age/maturity probably plays a role in how quickly people determine potential or not.

This song seems relevant

Ahhh I just noticed this the other day, as well [same kinda climate]. It was a rare, super sunny day and I had completely forgotten the immensely positive effect that has on your mental well-being! Hopefully the vit D has an energizing effect ASAP for you

Man buns are so hnnnnnng. The two guys I've been most attracted to in my life have them, including my current guy! He's growing it out to donate, so that makes it even cooler.

Vick: coming from someone who once had low vitamin D prior to supplementation: I don't think you will feel better from it. I felt the same mood wise, but it never hurts given how essential it is. It is a natural form of anti-biotic just to name one of the benefits. I'm on 8000 IU/day and my blood work recently came in at 214 (top range is 250) so I'm on point. I believe it also contributed toward my increased test levels too, cheah natural juice. Disregard what the bottle says (1000 to 2000 IU/day) and get in like 5000 IU for a guy your size. Also, make sure it is liquid drops as pills don't absorb as well and take it with some kind of fat for better absorption, unless it specifies on the bottle that it is emulsified. I am OCD so I take emulsified vitamin D with fish oil lol. Fish oil has mood benefits too.

If you want my opinion: you are burned out from training everyday brah. I think you said you train like 2+ hrs too. Know that training beyond 1 hr is just for the purpose of burning calories, but you won't see muscle gains from it as GH is only released the first hour. Your are also decreasing your test levels by training beyond 1 hr. Cut that chit down to 5 days a week IMO.

It's not a chit test at all it's you teasing him gently which is what guys do as well but according Ponds when a girl teases it's a chit test. I swear I am done with even responding to him he thinks he is this guru with a skewed sense of reality. Obviously you Daisy went on a second date which is good for both parties and you share some similarities, but if a guy can't handle a little teasing or doesn't respond with a witty semi teasy come back to you then yes the chemistry loses quite a few points. Finding equal senses of humor and intelligence isn't a chit test it's called making sure the are on nearly the same wavelength as you.

basically, Men are all just a bunch of peacocks swaying their feathers in attempts to attract women, who passively sit there and just pick. Just like the animal kingdom.

Not so patiently waiting...
Nailed it...which is why I agreed to disagree with him. I see things the same way as you...to me, a 'sh!t test' is asking something like,'Does this line work on all the other girls you ask out? hehe', not asking someone why they did what they did in a better attempt to understand them/the sitch. I've never felt the need to 'test' the guy I'm seeing because he's been honest, direct and authentic from the start....what you see is what you get with him!

It is a gender thing that goes back to sexual selection in evolution and women's dual selection method. Without dropping too much evolutionary psychology theory etc. it's the selection choice between good male providers and good male risk takers.

Also, make sure it is liquid drops as pills don't absorb as well and take it with some kind of fat for better absorption, unless it specifies on the bottle that it is emulsified. I am OCD so I take emulsified vitamin D with fish oil lol. Fish oil has mood benefits too.

Tell me, daisy, Why wouldn't you just straight up say, "You waited 3 days to message me. Why are you using those stupid dating rules on me?"

Lol, because that delivery is utterly void of any tact or finesse. Come on now...we have social skillz for a reason

Yeah, the reason is social dynamics. You've been conditioned to know that being that direct will never get you the answer that you are looking for AND you don't want to look like an idiot.

I've taken vit D in liquid form, but the gel capsules are also great and absorb quickly into the body. I also take cod liver oil daily...supposed to have health benefits! I'm gonna try taking apple cider vinegar and see if it has any positive effects. I took it years ago but never noticed much. Might as well try again...love testing out natural health options!

I took 2 tbsp of ACV for about a year a couple of years ago and noticed many benefits.

Lol, you're funny. I'm just gonna go by my intuition on this one. If it feels right, it probably is!

I took 2 tbsp of ACV for about a year a couple of years ago and noticed many benefits.

Dilute tea tree oil and mix it with ACV

I swear by tea tree oil! Use it every day crew

When I date, I date with caution. Stay cynical my friends.

As for your beard growing if it's the first time it will come out patchy as fuk. Grow it out for a few months then trim it down and comb it daily.