Yea i did

Especially the fugly ones

After I tied her up, blindfolded her, and fuked her ass for the 2nd time we had a convo about what type of porn we watch. So she joked that I like "anal destruction porn".

She was right.





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Working on a new routine.




Gonna reply "Well if you insist. Hows Sat night for drinks?"

Not gonna use this on girls 26+ lest they might take me seriously.

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Re: songs i smash too

Basically just my gym playlist i lift too. Can smash real hard to this.



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Just realized some of my SS's didnt show on previous posts. Using the imgur app not sure what happened. Tell me if you cant see the img's brahs.

This was a good one in panama showing how if a girl like bombs you on ig its a guranteed slay pretty much.







<><><><>Send me your profile again if you want. We are pretty much in the same market and relatively close on the looks scale, plus have a similar vibe in our profile so unless you arent swiping/boosting enough im surprised you arent getting enough matches/quality to convert.

Also @nicklol couldnt find your post but wanted to reply to your "expirement"...

You just dont get it. A miscer that silence matched posted his bumble/tinder game with pics of him BALD. And had success. Not having a full head of hair is a disadvantage, but NOT a death sentence. You have the following advantages:

1. Height
2. Aesthetics (body > face in your case but you arent a bad looking guy facially (no homer)
3. Ethnicity (no rasict)
4. Market

What you DONT have in any of your pics is flavor. You have pics wearing $2.99 raggady walmart boxers in front of a circa 1970's kitchen with vaneer cabinets and formica counter top. To top it off you are posing lifting your boxers to show off your quad gains (lmao). Its like the epidemy of a douche pic. Unless you are 8+/10 that pic and all the others like it are hurting you.

Ive offered you complete A-Z profile make over help if you post pics/results itt for a case study. Guys that dont have your advantages are laughing at you because they would take a 50% pay cut to have what you have and you are wasting it.

yep, she ain't fugly dough (persian: light skin, blue eyes, dsl's), might be curvier than leading me to believe, however (still reminds me of this one pornstar). we're both not liberals in a very liberal state, so i stick out like a sore thumb, making me more attractive/rare in her eyes. in her words, 'she's tired of meeting liberal, pssy men that act like women'. not looking to settle down here, so likely will just be yet another pump n dump, though she is pretty cool and enjoyable to talk to, so will prob end up friend zoning, that is if we end up meeting.

went a little autism on this other 22 year old, 6.75/10 last night ie. i talked her out of it

Lmao i had this girl last week with a semi-decent face but no body shots send me body pics and she wasnt curvy enough so I ghosted.



Think she had a gut too cuz the angles she sent hid her stomach. If she was pretty I probably would have bit the bullet but none of her pics motivated me enough to leave my house so I played like I didnt like short hair..



If I had my own place I might have called her over doe.

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@psycho mirin dat der m4 carbine with trijicon night vision scope that reporter chick is holding. Gunbunnys do it for me.

I also dont think you are giving yourself enough credit saying these girls might not want to position you for an LTR. Unless you dont have your chit together at all, most arent expecting you to buy them a lambo for your anniversary.

What should I do here? Opening messages we are talking about our work. Shes not showing way too much interest but shes responding. Shes an 8/10 but I hate dinner date 1st dates cuz she might be boring af or trying to eat for free. Should I stick to my guns and say drinks first? Or cut my loses cuz shes an hbb and drop $75 on her?





My intentions would be to make her my main girl if we vibe so I am ok holding out 3-4 dates to smash as long as we are progressing.

Brbmakingmoney or anyone else feel free to chime in...

With the suggestion of dinner and then fact that she said "won't be for a bit", I'd push for drinks. Running a high risk of flake behavior or being the "I guess" option that she uses for a meal.

Do not do dinner dates. Just be honest with her and say you don't do dinner dates because you think it destroys intimacy, hard to be close with someone, focused on eating, stuck there, etc.

Maybe she doesn't drink? Meet her out somewhere iono. Maybe coffee date first date to feel her out

almost bursted out laughing in the office @ "you don't like short hair?" ghosted, then all of a sudden, "wow ok..." hahaha dumb kunt thinking shes worth more than she is. Tinder and online dating has made their egos inflated

Lmao yeah. I ghost girls for the same reason they ghost us. Not feelin the vibe, and/or have better looking options.

Heres another I left hanging...



Some are worth benching for a later date. The one above wasnt. If she was I would have came up with an excuse why we cant meet then left it off with "ill check my schedule next week and we can plan a different day..."

This is actually another reason why alot of the convos i post die by txt... I lose interest.

@spadelexus

what were some of the basics that got you to this level i know you have different game and pics. But i am sure there are some basics and i am sure you got a lot of practice on tinder. I have about 25 matches without plus. O feel i will be a tinder pro like some of you if i get more matches and chances to talk to sloots. My profile is great and what helps me is my Ig you can see my transformation pic and it looks crazy AF. Also my avatar on this forum went up on Ig so they can see how big these guns are, i need to get them measured lmao.

Does top photos actually work for anyone in here? Does it rotate your photos?

I activated Top Photos, ran a boost getting 30 or so matches, and no photos changed

Fails and constant improvement on profile and game. When I first got on tinder I knew nothing. I would match, but barely got whales interested to meet. Had a few lucky encounters in the begining with some hotties. But mostly pitched corny dtf game to whales and uggos most rejected and the pretty girls didnt even respond to my mild openers. Then I said there must be more to this. Read up on some PUA stuff, took hundreds of pics finding my best angles, read other tinder threads out there, read these threads, etc...

Then its just trial and error + a numbers game. Finding pics/game that get more matches, # closes, date closes and smashes. What worked for me might not work for others and vise versa. Just gotta have a confident attitude and continually get rejected to the point you are ready to delete the app, then stop and say "i can do this" and spend time getting better pics, and taking risks using different approaches hoping somethin will stick.

I dont look that much different than I did 2 years ago when I started. But my profile went from looking like a 6/10 nice guy geek to a 7/10 bad ass player.

If you dont have plus you are shooting yourself in the foot. Unless you live in a market where theres no one new to swipe. Also not sure about your ig but if its just pic after pic of you in the gym or posing in the mirror its probably not helping you unless you are a fitness model. But if you were a fitness model you wouldnt be asking this question. So yes girls like fit guys with muscles...man lands on moon. But if you dont balance your ig with other pics than you run the risk of looking like a douchy meathead which most girls dont like. Sure youll get female fans comment and like your pics, but you want to show potential tinder matches that you know how to count higher than your max lifts, and you are going to be fun. So mix it up with pics dressing casual, dressed up, in nature, in the city, etc...

Like this: Threw this opener at 4 girls. 3 responded. 2 convos died. 1 # closed.

Like who the fuk opens with that? Of course they will respond! But my profile smells like sex. So I can open telling a girl I wanna bust in her raw in a joking/flirtatious way. If yours doesn't have sex appeal, it might not work for you. Or it might cuz it's a silly thing to say and after she's received 20 "hey how's it going?" Opening messages you just stood out from the crowd and made her laugh. Double win. Now she's yours as long as you don't fuk it up...

Meeting for drinks with a nurse on friday, leggo

I lose interest basically as soon as I go to sleep unless the girl is a strong 7, and even then a lot of times.


Has anyone downloaded "Monkey"? Lol

I'm going to try a new approach for 7's and up and tell the chick she looks fresh out of an LTR. Any positive response should be an open door to escalate.


Lol wut do?




She didn't unmatch...

Hehehehe

^^^ lmao!Dont answer. Say something like "look i dont wanna be the guy that gets between you two, unless you are both ok with sharing me then ill be in between you two. If you are not ok with sharing then come over now and tell your friend you also unmatched me...."

Too wordy but id try to play a threesome or at least have them both over to bang then if not keep workin the girl youre convoing now.

@silence i posted a chart before more as a joke but cant finf it now.

Just got back from a smash, ending my 2 week 2 day dry spell.
Went out for a couple drinks, did the old 'do you have clicky fingers?' Routine, where i just play with her hands trying to click them, sounds weird but always works well, and she just ends up stroking my hand.
Then i drop the, 'Fancy another drink here or shall we grab a bottle?' She goes with the bottle.
Brb go back to her apartment, brb she gets pretty drunk off half a bottle of wine ayyy.
Brb balls deep within 20 minutes, Brb i'm at that 'tipsy' sweet spot where I can go for ages without cumming, end up smashing for about an hour.
Brb shot my load all over her ass.
Brb figured now would be a good time to troll a girl who flaked earlier and wasnt very hot anyway, snapped a pic of her in bed and snapchatted to the flaker 'Sorry I got a better offer lol'.
Got a lolsy butthurt reply. Just got home, feels good man

It takes a long time to get results. It took 9 days for one of my accounts.

Just had one come over and smashed 2x. No gag reflex on this one...

lol

This is probably the toughest concept for guys that fail at this to grasp, and most difficult to do something about because it likely requires making major changes in your life. The change is so drastic, and some guys arent ambutious enough to take initiative, so they take the easy way out instead, and give up, pinning their failures on factors beyond their control like baldness, being short, not being white, not having a square jawline, etc..etc...

Weve seen them come and go itt. Hopefully some have learned and are making a change.

What are the basics, AnimalStrength asks... I said I took my profile from looking like a 6/10 geek to a 7/10 bad boy in 2 years yet facially I didnt change. Probably lost hair and gained wrinkles in that time to be perfectly fukin honest. So what did I do? I changed the vibe of my profile.

Remember when Sway appeared a few days ago telling me the vibe I gave off in my profile wasnt adventurous and fun?

Read this.







That is how I compete with guys better looking than me. Its my energy. My vibe. If you want to compete than wake up tomorrow and do something to change rather than blame factors you cant control.

Didn't care to read the entire thing, just a bunch of health benefits or what you're perceived as when you do/don't have good posture, muscle, certain ratios.

Moral of the story was to have a 30 waist and be 160-175 as a guy.

160-175 at like 6'3-6'5? would not recommend lol

but otherwise probably if you want a physique to attract girls

either slap your profile on here for guys to comment on, or PM someone for review


Cliffs on profile/game tips from this thread

- have a good physique (mirin ur avi srs no homo)
- show off your physique in a non douche bag way - ie at a beach or pool party with people who have chit physiques etc
- have some pics of just yourself - make it obvious who they are looking at.
- have a pic with hot sloot/sloots
- have a social pic out in the club/bar
- fitted suit pic
- smile in a couple pics at least
- if youre over 6ft mention it in your profile
- your bio should give off a similar vibe to your pics and should set up the vibe in your convos
- if youre a 7/10 - you will do well, but will have most success with 6/10's... theres like 20 guys for every girl on tinder, ego's inflated etc
- if youre a chad - you can get away with being more direct
- number close fairly quickly (dont be a poosy, but dont open with whats your number unless ur 10/10 ayy)
- be confident and sometimes a bit cocky (if shes a 5/6 and youre a 7 for example)
- try and set up a meet before number closing
- try and build a little rapport and flirting before meet/number
- super likes work for sloots on your level, and maybe just above - pretty effective
- if they ghost you or dont reply etc - dont double text unless its been a couple weeks - then its up to you if you wanna send a jokes line (i eat ass btw) or just a normal message


TL;DR

the higher up the looks scale you are, the less effort you have to put in -looks get you matches, game gets you smashes

Forgot to mention she let me have a look on her Tinder. She had met 2 guys on it other than me, but one was an alcoholic and the other was awkward, didn't dare kiss her despite them having a good date.
Brb 400 matches.
Read through some of the openers she was getting, loads of:

Hey how r u?
Hey nice pics
Hey, you have really pretty eyes
Hey i dont use this much, wanna whatsapp?
Hey can you send more pics on snapchat? Of what? Surprise me(lol)

Some of these were total Chads srs. Just goes to show that game can and will overcome that. Its also interesting to see just how many guys read threads like this and other guides online because loads of them had the typical, showing physique in a natural way (pool party/surfing), holding a dog or other animal, hiking or other sport, edited, filtered selfie, playing guitar etc.
I was quite shocked by the amount of matches she had, and disappointed by the game most of them used. One of them in particular came out with really weird comments, she was talking to him about camping and she said, 'Lets go camping in X! (clearly a joke) to which he replies, 'sounds good but you really shouldnt be offering to go camping with strangers on the internet'.
Way to put doubt in her mind that you're a total creeper.

Also worth noting that some of the top tier Chads matched with her weeks ago but hadn't said anything, her, like most girls, won't message first. For that reason i'm not going to let my matches build up this time around because I found so many girls were unresponsive, had moved, or were otherwise negative in responses if I matched a long time ago. I'd recommend matching with 10 at a time and work through them. This should help with elo anyway as you should always have a 'bank' of guaranteed matches by the time you're ready to swipe more.

Long post, just sharing some insight.

lol - beta confirmed

all the more incentive to be alpha brahs srs

good post intruder