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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army
White privilege isn't blanket where every white person has it better than EVERY black person.

But if were having a serious discussion on this topic white privilege is often linked to economic privilege. White folks getting shorter sentences (better lawyers) for the same crimes as their black counterparts. Great education comes from great schools which come from local taxes. However because wealth never existed in balck neighberhoods until recently majority of blacks get ****ty school systems. Those issues get passed on generation to generation and they are mostly linked to $$

Thing is cash for the most part was always concentrated in the WHITE population and until recently a lot of opportunities were not available to blacks due to jim crow and the civil rights era.

A lot of it is very subtle, racism and privilege doesn't display itself in the most obvious ways but its definitely there.
Didn't read after "white folks get lesser sentences than black bros" bull****.

I was arrested and convicted of PETIT LARCENY, a misdemeanor. I went to my court date with 3 other people from the block, all of them black and I was white.

Black person 1: in for aggravated assault, 6 months County. Felony.

2: drug crime, got drug court. Felony.

3: assault from a domestic dispute: 4 months County, felony.

Me: PETIT larceny involving full value of about $100: one year in county, misdemeanor.

2 of the 3 black people had priors as well and one was apparently a frequent flyer in that jail. The drug bro had violated probation.

Tell me more about how the law favors white people and throws the book at blacks every time *******. Oh and we all had the same public defender.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84
Didn't read after "white folks get lesser sentences than black bros" bull****.

I was arrested and convicted of PETIT LARCENY, a misdemeanor. I went to my court date with 3 other people from the block, all of them black and I was white.

Black person 1: in for aggravated assault, 6 months County. Felony.

2: drug crime, got drug court. Felony.

3: assault from a domestic dispute: 4 months County, felony.

Me: PETIT larceny involving full value of about $100: one year in county, misdemeanor.

2 of the 3 black people had priors as well and one was apparently a frequent flyer in that jail. The drug bro had violated probation.

Tell me more about how the law favors white people and throws the book at blacks every time *******. Oh and we all had the same public defender.
What does your anecdotal post have anything to do with the fact that WHITE defendants still get less time on AVERAGE(AVERAGE BEING THE KEY WORD) than their black / latino counterparts. Even when you do adjust for income bracket the difference is still there but greatly reduced which is why i said its economically based.

People are so quick to get offended by EVERYTHING. You posted a long personal story which is just indicative of how you got shafted and not the greater majority. GJ
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In countries with a majority white race...there will be more privilege for white ppl because the countries are ****ing white. No **** there will be more opportunities for white ppl. Its the law of large numbers for christ sakes. To try and make white ppl feel guilty about this is silly and stupid.

Only in predominantly white countries is it viewed as acceptable for immigrants and minorities to attack their white hosts. Go to asia, africa and the middle east and try that **** on their majority races... white ppl put up with a lot of **** from ungrateful minorities.
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Originally Posted By Jrd86
In countries with a majority white race...there will be more privilege for white ppl because the countries are ****ing white. No **** there will be more opportunities for white ppl. Its the law of large numbers for christ sakes. To try and make white ppl feel guilty about this is silly and stupid.

Only in predominantly white countries is it viewed as acceptable for immigrants and minorities to attack their white hosts. Go to asia, africa and the middle east and try that **** on their majority races... white ppl put up with a lot of **** from ungrateful minorities.
Not sure about the other ethnicities but whites knda sorta brought us here against our will. Thats not to say I want to go back. I've been displaced, so that country isn't even my home anymore either so i'm kinda stuck here and its your fault. The asians didn't do that.
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Originally Posted By Jrd86
In countries with a majority white race...there will be more privilege for white ppl because the countries are ****ing white. No **** there will be more opportunities for white ppl. Its the law of large numbers for christ sakes. To try and make white ppl feel guilty about this is silly and stupid.

Only in predominantly white countries is it viewed as acceptable for immigrants and minorities to attack their white hosts. Go to asia, africa and the middle east and try that **** on their majority races... white ppl put up with a lot of **** from ungrateful minorities.
Is that like the Apartheid???
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Not sure about the other ethnicities but whites knda sorta brought us here against our will. Thats not to say I want to go back. I've been displaced, so that country isn't even my home anymore either so i'm kinda stuck here and its your fault. The asians didn't do that.
Kinda, sorta??

Its just fact. I hate the fact that so many black miscers tiptoe around a bunch of pathetic, cowardly racist pricks
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Originally Posted By Tangential
Kinda, sorta??

Its just fact. I hate the fact that so many black miscers tiptoe around a bunch of pathetic, cowardly racist pricks
I'm fully aware and typically have no problem being blunt, but i'm not because that usually results to strawmans and threads getting off topic.

I've learned to keep topics that are semi related to a thread (but not directly related) as vanilla/grey as possible. Its easier for us to stay on topic. It may not seem like it but there is a tact to discussing controversial topics on message boards.
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army
What does your anecdotal post have anything to do with the fact that WHITE defendants still get less time on AVERAGE(AVERAGE BEING THE KEY WORD) than their black / latino counterparts. Even when you do adjust for income bracket the difference is still there but greatly reduced which is why i said its economically based.

People are so quick to get offended by EVERYTHING. You posted a long personal story which is just indicative of how you got shafted and not the greater majority. GJ
Could it not be like the wage gap? i.e. poor black/latinos tend to have more prior convictions on average and thus get harsher penalties? And/or live in counties where judges are beyond sick of crime? judges in lower crime areas willing to empathize more?
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Originally Posted By Maestro
I'm fully aware and typically have no problem being blunt, but i'm not because that usually results to strawmans and threads getting off topic.

I've learned to keep topics that are semi related to a thread (but not directly related) as vanilla/grey as possible. Its easier for us to stay on topic. It may not seem like it but there is atact to discussing controversial topics on message boards.
Really?

This thread could have fooled me. You had far more tact circa 2010-2012. The alt-right has risen and now seems to be dominating much of the discussion outside of the usual liberal echo chambers. Problem is, most of them are just as stupid and delusional as the liberals they complain about. Threads like these prove that.
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Originally Posted By Better
Could it not be like the wage gap? i.e. poor black/latinos tend to have more prior convictions on average and thus get harsher penalties? And/or live in counties where judges are beyond sick of crime? judges in lower crime areas willing to empathize more?
Nope.

A black graduate has equal chance of being employed than a white convict.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/0...nces-for-hire/

LOL lemme guess, the priors are hidden due to the Jewish agenda right?
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I can't believe people still talk about this, or give this idea any credibility.

1. Inequality is part of everyone, of every race. ****n Powell's kid is much more privileged than little white TJ in the swamps of Louisiana. To actually create this idea that solely based on your skin color you are born into this spectrum of inequality, is ludicrous. Again, if this were true, then Jamie Foxx's kid would be underprivileged vs. a suburban middle class white kid. I don't think so. There is zero systematic racism in modern society in America. Show me one law or one constitutional documentation of modern society in the US that effects you negatively purely based on the color of your skin.

2. Historical events and actions can't dictate modern events and actions. That means that because of something happening in the past, doesn't give you the moral and social justice to hold it over people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. So apparently I personally am responsible for minority downfalls in this country purely based on my skin, because people way before my time that I have never met did something. My grandparents are from Sweden. They played no part in slavery. But they are white so they inherit responsibility of slavery? Do they also carry the burden of the raids of england and france in the 700-800ad? Do they have blood on their hands? Fukking stfu

3. You are born into your circumstances, and your ability to succeed will never be hindered by this ominous "white privilege" which is out there stopping minorities from succeeding! All the black single parent homes are because of white privilege, all of the criminal injustice is because of white privilege, and all of the low median household incomes for minorities are due to this evil white privilege. Oh wait, then why are Asians the ones with the highest household income? The highest graduation rates. The lowest percentage of single parent households. Is there Asian privilege then? Or maybe it is just their culture...

4. There will always be racism, prejudice, etc no matter what, in any country, in any part of the world. Few actions don't dictate the many. My buddy is doing quite well in Japan right now, even though he has been turned down from entering restaurants and getting in cabs because he is white. Doesn't seem to be hindering him, does it? But he's a minority! Or does he still have "white priviliege?"

5. Minorities will tell you that if you are white, you are inherently racist....a white supremacist. Yet, the thing they complain about most is racism. Somehow we need to stop being racist towards minorities, yet they just told us we are all inherently racist. It makes zero logical sense. It is lunacy.



Here's your solution. Be a decently good person to everyone. Live your life with good morals and values that hold true to you, and be nice to people. That's it. Stop using people as scapegoats for your life issues. It's pathetic. And privilege does exist, but it is completely personal and individualistic.
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Privilege exist. Wouldnt necessarily say its just White. Although throughout history could be evidence enough to argue that but thats in the past. SO thats not really relevant in my opinion

But I would say 'PRIVILEGE' exist for all races just depending on the family you're born into. White 'Privilege' is seen more prominent because of the media, the history and so forth. Its those with the money who manipulate our minds to push that agenda.

But I still think its a bunch of leftish propaganda bull**** to excite violence and whatever agenda they're trying to push and it all just boils down to money and power
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White privilege became a thing because simply, there is no easier thing to do than sit back on your lazy ass and blame someone else for your own shortcomings and failures.

We now coddle people when they cry rather than tell them to work hard
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Originally Posted By Tangential
Nope.

A black graduate has equal chance of being employed than a white convict.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/0...nces-for-hire/

LOL lemme guess, the priors are hidden due to the Jewish agenda right?
Anecdotal study in a very limited number of locations. And it lists nothing about the actual methods.

1) Did these applicants only apply to white companies/white HR? Asians for example are notorious about their dislike of blacks but that's not race issue because minorities are incapable of racism.
2) Did the white felons dress, talk and act like they were going to sunday church? And made black brahs wear hitler shirts apply for hebrew temple work?

There are just so many ways you could skew the results if you have an agenda to prove ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR CAREER DEPENDS ON IT.

But let's say this experiment was actually legit and was done for academic and informational purpose only. Plus they only targeted white HR. In that case, I guess you may have a point that the leftiest of left white liberals (NYC) are racist. But we already suspected that.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
I can't believe people still talk about this, or give this idea any credibility.

1. Inequality is part of everyone, of every race. ****n Powell's kid is much more privileged than little white TJ in the swamps of Louisiana. To actually create this idea that solely based on your skin color you are born into this spectrum of inequality, is ludicrous. Again, if this were true, then Jamie Foxx's kid would be underprivileged vs. a suburban middle class white kid. I don't think so. There is zero systematic racism in modern society in America. Show me one law or one constitutional documentation of modern society in the US that effects you negatively purely based on the color of your skin.

2. Historical events and actions can't dictate modern events and actions. That means that because of something happening in the past, doesn't give you the moral and social justice to hold it over people who had absolutely nothing to do with it. So apparently I personally am responsible for minority downfalls in this country purely based on my skin, because people way before my time that I have never met did something. My grandparents are from Sweden. They played no part in slavery. But they are white so they inherit responsibility of slavery? Do they also carry the burden of the raids of england and france in the 700-800ad? Do they have blood on their hands? Fukking stfu

3. You are born into your circumstances, and your ability to succeed will never be hindered by this ominous "white privilege" which is out there stopping minorities from succeeding! All the black single parent homes are because of white privilege, all of the criminal injustice is because of white privilege, and all of the low median household incomes for minorities are due to this evil white privilege. Oh wait, then why are Asians the ones with the highest household income? The highest graduation rates. The lowest percentage of single parent households. Is there Asian privilege then? Or maybe it is just their culture...

4. There will always be racism, prejudice, etc no matter what, in any country, in any part of the world. Few actions don't dictate the many. My buddy is doing quite well in Japan right now, even though he has been turned down from entering restaurants and getting in cabs because he is white. Doesn't seem to be hindering him, does it? But he's a minority! Or does he still have "white priviliege?"

5. Minorities will tell you that if you are white, you are inherently racist....a white supremacist. Yet, the thing they complain about most is racism. Somehow we need to stop being racist towards minorities, yet they just told us we are all inherently racist. It makes zero logical sense. It is lunacy.



Here's your solution. Be a decently good person to everyone. Live your life with good morals and values that hold true to you, and be nice to people. That's it. Stop using people as scapegoats for your life issues. It's pathetic. And privilege does exist, but it is completely personal and individualistic.
They will continue talking about white privileged until the very last white had been chased down and killed. We're obviously a ways away from that, but that's their endgame.

They know good and well it's one of many approaches to white genocide.
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Originally Posted By Better
Anecdotal study in a very limited number of locations. And it lists nothing about the actual methods.

1) Did these applicants only apply to white companies/white HR? Asians for example are notorious about their dislike of blacks but that's not race issue because minorities are incapable of racism.
2) Did the white felons dress, talk and act like they were going to sunday church? And made black brahs wear hitler shirts apply for hebrew temple work?

There are just so many ways you could skew the results if you have an agenda to prove ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR CAREER DEPENDS ON IT.

But let's say this experiment was actually legit and was done for academic and informational purpose only. Plus they only targeted white HR. In that case, I guess you may have a point that the leftiest of left white liberals (NYC) are racist. But we already suspected that.
Its amusing when miscers throw out any study which doesnt agree with their own ways of thinking. Such a foolish persuit.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000014/
http://fortune.com/2014/11/04/hiring-racial-bias/

Denying this is tantamount to me denying young black men dont have disproportionate levels of criminal behavior. "Only targeted a white HR"??? What kinda ridiculous rationalization is this?? Most HRs are white. I want to know your excuse for black names being hired at a lower rate too. Or is that because Tyronemustmean that the applicant is a potential felon. Whats worrying is that ther eis good chance that you're going to sit there and say thats a-okay. And then in the next thread you'll be complaining about feminists talking about "rape culture" and "demonizing men".
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Originally Posted By Tangential
Its amusing when miscers throw out any study which doesnt agree with their own ways of thinking. Such a foolish persuit.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000014/
http://fortune.com/2014/11/04/hiring-racial-bias/

Denying this is tantamount to me denying young black men dont have disproportionate levels of criminal behavior. "Only targeted a white HR"??? What kinda ridiculous rationalization is this?? Most HRs are white. I want to know your excuse for black names being hired at a lower rate too. Or is that because Tyronemustmean that the applicant is a potential felon. Whats worrying is that ther eis good chance that you're going to sit there and say thats a-okay. And then in the next thread you'll be complaining about feminists talking about "rape culture" and "demonizing men".
Will read those later, gym time nao but quick reply to the rest of the post

Yes, you have to only target white companies/white HR because those companies are the only ones capable of racism. I'm sorry but if a chinese american or indian american throws your resume into trash because he doesn't want any african americans at his company, it's his safe space of color to do that. It's not racism and you can't use that to pad your numbers against whites/chalk it up to racism. So you can't just mix rejections by POC against african americans with white rejections and claim that 100% of those rejections were racist when say only 12% of those rejections were done due to racism (12% of those companies were white/white HR).
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Will read those later, gym time nao but quick reply to the rest of the post

Yes, you have to only target white companies/white HR because those companies are the only ones capable of racism. I'm sorry but if a chinese american or indian american throws your resume into trash because he doesn't want any african americans at his company, it's his safe space of color to do that. It's not racism and you can't use that to pad your numbers against whites/chalk it up to racism. So you can't just mix rejections by POC against african americans with white rejections and claim that 100% of those rejections were racist when say only 12% of those rejections were done due to racism (12% of those companies were white/white HR).
The study that I quote actually say the dicrimination applied to all foreign names. Plenty of Indian and Asian immigrants complaining of the same thing. TBH the problem with you guys is that you clearly have no spent much time doing any research into this topic and you use the "model minority" argument to bulldoze over any valid counterpoint. Thing is though, if you actually listened to Asians instead of just using them as argumentative bait then you would realize that plenty feel they are also discriminated against in the employment sector.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/2...an-applicants/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...otypes/458874/

The only difference is their complaints are not as vocalized (for a number of reasons). Where I am (England), what you find is that Asians struggle in finding employment despite being overqualified and end up working for themselves and using their existing familial/cultural/religious networks to do so. I am still not entirely sure what this is proof of though, or how it really vindicates your argument.
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Didn't even read my post huh. What are you talking about? Model minority's and asians? What?

NYC is 54% minority businesses. If you get more than 46 rejected applications out of 100 then it's obviously not racism. Racism is capped at maximum of 46%. You have 54% success rate! Which is far better than my applications ever fared. What don't you understand
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White brah who lived in a downtown urban area checking in. If you deny white privilege, my guess is you haven't lived in a diverse area.
Lol at getting negged for this.

Example: i can walk down the street smoking green past police and they don't even turn their head. A black brah in urban wear? Not a chance.
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I can't leave my hotel room cause there's a party next door and I don't want to meet them outside if anyone is under chemical influence (99% sure they are and I already heard them through the wall arguing with each other.)

What happens then if we meet? They will immediately band together and try to bully me. Leads to a fight breaking out which leads me getting the short end of the stick one way or another.

How's that for privilege?



And there's a thirsty chick that wants me to meet her out but I'm legitimately scared of meeting these people outside. And not because I wouldn't beat all of them down, but because they can get away with murder.


Recently beat down some thugs that attacked me and got hit with a hate crime and lost rights.

Years ago I was attacked in a bar by 6 Mexicans and they got away with breaking my hip and destroying my career. It's only going to get worse for whites in the future.
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Yes white privilege still exists in the United States, unfortunately. It's not as bad as it was in the 1950s, but it still exists.

And yes, I'm white.

And no, I don't cry white genocide, sigh.
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
Yes white privilege still exists in the United States, unfortunately. It's not as bad as it was in the 1950s, but it still exists.

And yes, I'm white.

And no, I don't cry white genocide, sigh.
What are the demographics of your neighborhood? Cause by that statement, you don't spend any time near an urban jungle.



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Originally Posted By Metalmank
But I still think its a bunch of leftish propaganda bull**** to excite violence and whatever agenda they're trying to push and it all just boils down to money and power
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Originally Posted By American
What are the demographics of your neighborhood? Cause by that statement, you don't spend any time near an urban jungle.
About 50% White, 40% Asian and East Indian, and very few Hispanics and Black in my immediate neighborhood.

I grew up next to subsidized housing and went to college in an urban jungle, so I know what it's like. I worked my booty off to get a scholarship, go to college, and get out of a bad neighborhood and constantly calling the police on my neighbors.

I was the only one in my neighborhood who went to college, other than 2 other guys who ended up playing college football, one pro.
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
About 50% White, 40% Asian and East Indian, and very few Hispanics and Black in my immediate neighborhood.

I grew up next to subsidized housing and went to college in an urban jungle, so I know what it's like. I worked my booty off to get a scholarship, go to college, and get out of a bad neighborhood and constantly calling the police on my neighbors.

I was the only one in my neighborhood who went to college, other than 2 other guys who ended up playing college football, one pro.
Ok but you're pretty much saying that had anyone else done their work, they too could've been successful...

Where was your privilege? Pretty obvious you didn't feel safe, just like whites today don't feel safe. FYI it's gotten worse for other whites since you moved out of your Asian/white neighborhood... where these two races can coexist rather peacefully, unlike when other minority groups are living amongst whites.

Probably safe to say you felt less safe as a white person living in the projects... that's privilege?
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Originally Posted By American
Ok but you're pretty much saying that had anyone else done their work, they too could've been successful...

Where was your privilege? Pretty obvious you didn't feel safe, just like whites today don't feel safe. FYI it's gotten worse for other whites since you moved out of your Asian/white neighborhood... where these two races can coexist rather peacefully, unlike when other minority groups are living amongst whites.

Probably safe to say you felt less safe as a white person living in the projects... that's privilege?
It's easier to exit the ghetto as a white person. That's the privilege.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84
Didn't read after "white folks get lesser sentences than black bros" bull****.

I was arrested and convicted of PETIT LARCENY, a misdemeanor. I went to my court date with 3 other people from the block, all of them black and I was white.

Black person 1: in for aggravated assault, 6 months County. Felony.

2: drug crime, got drug court. Felony.

3: assault from a domestic dispute: 4 months County, felony.

Me: PETIT larceny involving full value of about $100: one year in county, misdemeanor.

2 of the 3 black people had priors as well and one was apparently a frequent flyer in that jail. The drug bro had violated probation.

Tell me more about how the law favors white people and throws the book at blacks every time *******. Oh and we all had the same public defender.
So let me get this straight because either you are full of sh!t or you got the most severe punishment ive ever heard of. First off you were not let out on bond for a class A misdemeanor, with what you lead on to be no priors (bullsh!t) Second you actually made it to court for a larceny of 100$ or less when 90% dont. (bullsh!t) Third you were given the max, which a year of county time is for petty larceny (bullsh!t)
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Originally Posted By deadliftbrah19
It's easier to exit the ghetto as a white person. That's the privilege.
This is what useful idiots look like.

Drop a black guy in Appalachia and drop a white guy in south side Chicago and tell me which one has an easier time.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
Not sure about the other ethnicities but whites knda sorta brought us here against our will. Thats not to say I want to go back. I've been displaced, so that country isn't even my home anymore either so i'm kinda stuck here and its your fault. The asians didn't do that.
Blame the conquering tribes then. Colonists were just profiteering off of the African slave trade that had been going on for a millennia before hand. Africa was built on tribal conquest and slave labor. Not like white were running around hunting them down with ****ing ropes, if you weren't bought by a ****ty Englishman then your were hauling sandstone and working mines until you died from dehydration or got eaten by a ****in lion. Whose the worse offender, a warlord slave trader mass murderer, or a slave beating profiteering plantation owner? Both are evil yet one seems to be getting way more backlash 100's of years later while the other continues the same line of work to this day under new flags. Try to ask them for reparations and see what happens looooool
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