I am the same OP. Don't want kids. Never have and never will, so I can totally relate to where you are coming from.

Traveling the world? Following your favorites sports team around. Dating hot gilfs/milfs. Being in prime shape because you have time to gym everyday. Senior citizens misc.

Studies have proven having kids makes you less happy and your happiness doesn't go back up until they leave the house. Never having kids crew.

to me having children is the point of our existence

however I understand brahs not wanting them

look at the current state of the world we live - a complete **** hole

Guys who don't have kids can't complain about immigration.


The govt has to bring in ppl to fill in the gap that your selfish ass is leaving in your country.

this is what i look forward to.
the idea of having grandkids is kinda cool. you get to sit back with your beer and look at the family you created and how it expanded over time. thats ideal for me at least.

I want children, just can't see myself being with the same woman for the rest of my life.

I'm too selfish to want kids. I'd rather spend my money on my own toys and travel. If I had a kid I would make them wear burlap sacks for clothes, and feed them a diet of nothing but white rice and beans.

Wife told me she doesn't want kids (at least not for a very long time-things change). I chalk this up to her always being the responsible one in her family; parents don't know very good english so she always translated for them, filled out important papers for them, took them to appointments (did the same chit for grandparents0, and basically caring for younger siblings.

I can understand the burnout she must feel since she's literally been responsible for that chit since she was like 13, I wouldn't want kids after all that chit either. Feel like you're a parents to your fully grown parents.

People with an education and successful careers are far less likely to have many children most will have a maximum of 2.

Your kids wont give a chit about you when you get old. They will only keep in contact with you because they feel obligated.

So much this. My family owns elderly housing and while the vast majority of the people living there have kids, their kids are never around. These people are alone most of the time and they're lucky to see their kids around the holidays because most of them live out of state. This idea that kids are meant to care for you when you get older and that you will be lonely without them is just ridiculous. I have seen it first hand. Kids grow up and make lives of their own. You think they're going to give up moving away for a great job opportunity or stick around your area indefinitely so that they can come over to visit you all the time? It's not happening. Have kids if you want to, but don't do it with the expectation that you will have company and someone to care for you when you are old.

the painful truth is that less white people leads to lower standard of life. Switzerland vs haiti gnomesayin?
inb4 brown ******* miscer blabbing about colonialism

**** ur wife and get her preggers, do it for your forefathers

Good thread so far reps coming for OP. check my sig


I don't believe the world is fuked up any worse now, there's just a Social media/ internet aspect that SHOWS everything. I teach history, the world was WAY mor fukked up 200 + years ago.


As mentioned a few times, i think the fact that families used to have 6+ children, because they worked on the farm, household, whatever to help lend a hand. They were assets !!

now all they are for most of 18 years are financial deficits , taking tens of thousands as the years go by . I'm not saying there isn't joy there, but being able to travel the world , with a wife or some friends and having the freedom to do that without being financially strapped down, is bad ass.


to each his own, but in your thirties expect some blow-back from parents. but they CANNOT expect you to have kids, just because its the " Thing your supposed to do now at your age"

love my son, but kids aint free, and watch who u knock up....

It's complete selfishness. Brb we haven't had kids in our house in a decade and we are too old to have any so we want you to have one so we can get that euphoric feeling again. Domt get me wrong, my parents are a great support system and help out even when not asked but it drives me crazy when they(my mom specifically) talks about us having more like it's the smart thing to do. I think back to when I was young and all the time I didn't see my folks because they were working or sleeping to make sure we had a good standard of living. I want my daughter to have better, period. If that means she'll be the only one then so be it. Rant over.

There's always one ******* bringing race into everything...

Inb4 it's the truth!( no facts to back it up)
I'm not a racist!
I'm just being real!

When I see parents trying to convince other people to have kids, all I see is parents trying to convince themselves that having kids was a good idea.

I'm seriously 100% convinced that a lot of married couples with kids fall into the "Misery loves company" mindset.

My brother and his wife are a perfect example. They were so in love until they had kids. Now they're miserable and their lives are more stressful than they could ever have imagined. It has taken a very brutal and obvious toll on their marriage. When we went to our cousin's wedding, they both kept saying "Yea it's all smiles and happiness now...just wait until they have kids..."

They both stated this multiple times in different ways. Not in front of them though, but to myself and my mom. It's like they're just rooting for other people to have kids so they can feel like they're not the only ones whose lives suck now. And I've heard this kind of thinking from a lot of other people with kids too.

I was with my gf and we went out on a double date and you could tell how jealous they were of how easy our lifestyle was without kids. And when we said we didn't want kids, they were like offended somehow and said "Yea yea you'll change your mind..."

Fuk all that

having kids cause you are going to get "lonely" is a terrible motivation for having them.