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post 1484722521 02-23-2017, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
I can see the usefulness of a BOB in a remote area or 3rd world country but that's about it.
Lol this. Last time I checked I live in 'murica boyo

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Originally Posted By the700level⏩
Lol this. Last time I checked I live in 'murica boyo

Will sub thread for when I move to Iraq not srs
For real. If **** went walking dead is prob just go take over someone's house.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Honestly the usefulness of a BOB pales in comparison to having cash on hand for the scenarios you listed while living in a first world country like the US. You could have a BOB in the US and when there's some catastrophic flood and all you have is a small amount of cash in your wallet + credit/debit cards and your BOB you're gonna be more fuked than you would be without a BOB but with 1k in cash.

I can see the usefulness of a BOB in a remote area or 3rd world country but that's about it.
Then you're wrong. BTW, BOB should contain some cash too. Good luck brah.
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Originally Posted By cgh⏩
If something happened I would go to family or friends' house. Worst case scenario, hotel room. I understand being prepared but honestly, unless you live in the middle of nowhere enough resources will be available.
Tell that to Hurricane Katrina survivors
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Find this kind of sad because I had what you could call a bug out bag packed from the age of 8 to the age of 16... It was just a rucksack packed up because my parents were abusive and I figured I may need to leave on short notice, I wanted to be able to just pick it up and go not spend 45 minutes walking around the house collecting toilet roll and wetwipes and soap etc
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Originally Posted By the700level⏩
Lol this. Last time I checked I live in 'murica boyo
People like you are the poster child for comment in the OP:

"If you don't think you could need to leave in a moments noticed, and or be forced to stay where you are for a few days due to any number of natural or man made disasters, you're a statistic in the making and delusional."

Cuz natural disasters of all kinds, nuke plants failure, man made screw ups intentional and non, etc can't happen and never happen in 'Murica...
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Unless there's a zombie apocalypse this is not needed. Even then it wouldn't be needed.


Brb breaking into a pharmacy or deli and grabbing everything I need


Or like other miscer said if you live in a 3rd world country or isolated location(middle of the desert)


Also brb driving anywhere to escape a "man made screw up"
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
People like you are the poster child for comment in the OP:

"If you don't think you could need to leave in a moments noticed, and or be forced to stay where you are for a few days due to any number of natural or man made disasters, you're a statistic in the making and delusional."

Cuz natural disasters of all kinds, nuke plants failure, man made screw ups intentional and non, etc can't happen and never happen in 'Murica...
Brb who was katrina? Brb who was whatever dam that was last week in Nor Cal where 200k were evacuated
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Brb who was katrina? Brb who was whatever dam that was last week in Nor Cal where 200k were evacuated
Dumb arses like him are in victim mode and think they have it all figured out. Cuz we all decide to drive straight for man made disasters and such. It's hard to fathom cognitive dissonance and denial that bad, but that's how most people live today. Does the US and Canadian government recommend a basic BOB for the hell of it? Does some goofy miscer know something they/we don't? Nope. Them canuckers:

https://www.getprepared.gc.ca/cnt/kts/index-en.aspx

As usual, gene pool gets cleaned once in a while I guess...
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Probably one of the first things I will do is just shoot a MFer and take theirs, so there is no need to prep. Even if you do, you are probably going to be robbed and killed by a mob for your stuff anyway.
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You're my favorite poster OP srs, would be your mate irl.

I've always thought about creating a bag like this. I have an emergency box of items which i would grab in evacuation/fire, but not a BOB.
Will look into making one
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Originally Posted By ResovoirDog⏩
You're my favorite poster OP srs, would be your mate irl.

I've always thought about creating a bag like this. I have an emergency box of items which i would grab in evacuation/fire, but not a BOB.
Will look into making one
If it ever comes in handy, you owe me a beer or 8 brah. Good luck.
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Even the CDC has a zombie survival guide.
https://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies_novella.htm

People have gone complacent, lazy, and take creature comforts for granted. You really don't have to over think it. If you have to evacuate immediately, at least have the basics to crash on your friends couch for a few days: Cash, Meds, ID, keys, phone, important papers (insurance cards, Passport, etc). A central location to grab your stuff, lock your door, and leave.

You can take it further, and have more (first-aid kit, shelter, water purification, fire starting, clothing, defensible weapons, am/fm radio, etc). This will allow you to walk out, and survive without a couch to surf on. Most people though don't have the training and skills to use it, but hey, better than nothing.
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bug out bags are for paranoid rural folk


ill just go on a looting spree at the local pharmacy in case of emergency.
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Originally Posted By Tough92⏩
Unless there's a zombie apocalypse this is not needed. Even then it wouldn't be needed.


Brb breaking into a pharmacy or deli and grabbing everything I need


Or like other miscer said if you live in a 3rd world country or isolated location(middle of the desert)


Also brb driving anywhere to escape a "man made screw up"
Originally Posted By rainieravesouth⏩
bug out bags are for paranoid rural folk


ill just go on a looting spree at the local pharmacy in case of emergency.
Because NO ONE ELSE thought of that either.
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post 1484730261 02-23-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Dumb arses like him are in victim mode and think they have it all figured out. Cuz we all decide to drive straight for man made disasters and such. It's hard to fathom cognitive dissonance and denial that bad, but that's how most people live today. Does the US and Canadian government recommend a basic BOB for the hell of it? Does some goofy miscer know something they/we don't? Nope. Them canuckers:

https://www.getprepared.gc.ca/cnt/kts/index-en.aspx

As usual, gene pool gets cleaned once in a while I guess...
I'm not against a BOB by any means but I certainly think you're overstating the usefulness of it.

In a planned evacuation for disasters with notice 95% of those supplies aren't going to make or break your survival.

In a disaster with next to no notice such as an earthquake or tornado your survival largely depends on your immediate shelter such as an earth quake resistant dwelling or a below ground shelter.

I went through the list and a lot of those supplies simply wouldn't make or break survival in a populated area.

Katrina:

Drowning (40%), injury and trauma (25%), and heart conditions (11%) were the major causes of death among Louisiana victims. Forty-nine percent of victims were people 75 years old and older.

The causes of death in Katrina would't change much if you gave every victim a BOB. They died because they were unable or unwilling to leave, not because they didn't have a fire starter tool, swiss army knife, or copies of their medical files.

If you live in an area below sea level that's hurricane prone, you need to know when it's time to get out, how to get out, and where to go. The laundry list of supplies is secondary and more convenience. The whole "or you'll become a statistic" argument is definitely overplayed.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
What's in yours?
It's more of a dual purpose camping and bug out bag. Has water filtration/treatment, first aid, camping gear like a handheld saw, collapsable shovel, hand crank radio/flashlight, a couple multi tools, flint/tinder, mini stove and cookware. Quite a bit of stuff in it.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Even the CDC has a zombie survival guide.
https://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies_novella.htm

People have gone complacent, lazy, and take creature comforts for granted. You really don't have to over think it. If you have to evacuate immediately, at least have the basics to crash on your friends couch for a few days: Cash, Meds, ID, keys, phone, important papers (insurance cards, Passport, etc). A central location to grab your stuff, lock your door, and leave.

You can take it further, and have more (first-aid kit, shelter, water purification, fire starting, clothing, defensible weapons, am/fm radio, etc). This will allow you to walk out, and survive without a couch to surf on. Most people though don't have the training and skills to use it, but hey, better than nothing.
Basic and essential stuff, and perhaps a decent reference guide in the bag, most people can figure it out long enough until some help arrives, hence the 72 hour window recommend. Beyond that, more complex stuff, is another matter. I don't have the training for long term survival on my own and my BOB does not contain stuff for it. I do LOL when I see things like fishing line and animal snares in people's BOB, unless they are legit survivalist types. I'm not. I can however make a quick shelter with a woobie and poncho, open an MRP, and start a fire with some cotton balls soaked in vasaline and a lighter.
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Honestly the usefulness of a BOB pales in comparison to having cash on hand for the scenarios you listed while living in a first world country like the US. You could have a BOB in the US and when there's some catastrophic flood and all you have is a small amount of cash in your wallet + credit/debit cards and your BOB you're gonna be more fuked than you would be without a BOB but with 1k in cash.

I can see the usefulness of a BOB in a remote area or 3rd world country but that's about it.
If our power grid fails we'll become a 3rd world country in a hurry.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
If our power grid fails we'll become a 3rd world country in a hurry.
I didn't have power for 15 days after Sandy hit Long Island, your statement simply doesn't hold up.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Even the CDC has a zombie survival guide.
https://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies_novella.htm

People have gone complacent, lazy, and take creature comforts for granted. You really don't have to over think it. If you have to evacuate immediately, at least have the basics to crash on your friends couch for a few days: Cash, Meds, ID, keys, phone, important papers (insurance cards, Passport, etc). A central location to grab your stuff, lock your door, and leave.

You can take it further, and have more (first-aid kit, shelter, water purification, fire starting, clothing, defensible weapons, am/fm radio, etc). This will allow you to walk out, and survive without a couch to surf on. Most people though don't have the training and skills to use it, but hey, better than nothing.
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I've got one packed with the following

Tactical knife
Flashlight
First aid kit
High calorie vacuum sealed food bars (basically 7,000 calorie power bars)
Water purification tablets
Personal water filter straw
50' Paracord
3 bandannas
100 rounds of 45 ACP ammo
30 rounds shotgun ammo
Magnesium fire starter
Stormproof matches
Wool blanket
Advil
Blood clotter
Hand crank radio
4 AA batteries
4 AAA batteries
Swiss army knife
Potasium Iodine tablets
Duct tape
Breathing mask (filters dust)
Poncho
Solar blankets
Pepper spray
Survival candle
Two 32 OZ canteens filled with water

And $2,000 cash that's separate from the backpack but easy for me to retrieve

I think that's it. All in a tactical backpack sitting by my bed.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
Probably one of the first things I will do is just shoot a MFer and take theirs, so there is no need to prep. Even if you do, you are probably going to be robbed and killed by a mob for your stuff anyway.
but you risk dying yourself by doing that.. you dont think people who have prepared also wont be armed themselves, and paranoid? lol
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By nunzie16⏩
I've got one packed with the following

Tactical knife
Flashlight
First aid kit
High calorie vacuum sealed food bars (basically 7,000 calorie power bars)
Water purification tablets
Personal water filter straw
50' Paracord
3 bandannas
100 rounds of 45 ACP ammo
30 rounds shotgun ammo
Magnesium fire starter
Stormproof matches
Wool blanket
Advil
Blood clotter
Hand crank radio
4 AA batteries
4 AAA batteries
Swiss army knife
Potasium Iodine tablets
Duct tape
Breathing mask (filters dust)
Poncho
Solar blankets
Pepper spray
Survival candle
Two 32 OZ canteens filled with water

And $2,000 cash that's separate from the backpack but easy for me to retrieve

I think that's it. All in a tactical backpack sitting by my bed.
would add a couple .50 cent BIC lighters, and a cheap collapsible saw.

Ever tried starting a real fire with a magnesium stick or a couple matchsticks?

Oh, and a light tarp
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
I'm not against a BOB by any means but I certainly think you're overstating the usefulness of it.
Got it, so the CDC, Canadian gov, Red Cross, etc, etc are just throwing it out for no good reason. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant. Survival favors the prepared, plan for the worst, hope for the best. If not one damn thing in the BOB helps a person in a given emergency, nothing lost. It it does, you may need it badly, and need it to survive. Or, it may simply make your experience less horrible until help arrives or you find help. Would you rather have something to sleep on, some water close by, a little food, and a radio with you until there's help for say 2-3 days or nothing?

This is not rocket science. Just basic survival info. There's a reason those who actually do that chit for a living always recommend a basic BOB. Always.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
would add a couple .50 cent BIC lighters, and a cheap collapsible saw.

Ever tried starting a real fire with a magnesium stick or a couple matchsticks?

Oh, and a light tarp
This. I have magnesium stick as last ditch, but bic lighter and cotton balls soaked in vasaline in a zip lock is soooooo much easier. I follow the three rule of fire and water: three ways to get it/make it from the super easy to the difficult. Large trash and a mil poncho allows many options for shelter and chit too.
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Agree with OP on the efficacy of being prepared.

Do you know what is the most prominent theory of what caused the bronze age collapse? An earthquakestorm. Combine that with raiders, food shortages, lack of resupply, civil unrest caused by all of the previously mentioned things, and any place can become third world pretty quickly.

We're at the mercy of this planet, anyone who thinks otherwise will pay the price for their hubris.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Got it, so the CDC, Canadian gov, Red Cross, etc, etc are just throwing it out for no good reason. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant. Survival favors the prepared, plan for the worst, hope for the best. If not one damn thing in the BOB helps a person in a given emergency, nothing lost. It it does, you may need it badly, and need it to survive. Or, it may simply make your experience less horrible until help arrives or you find help. Would you rather have something to sleep on, some water close by, a little food, and a radio with you until there's help for say 2-3 days or nothing?

This is not rocket science. Just basic survival info. There's a reason those who actually do that chit for a living always recommend a basic BOB. Always.
At the very least, they should have a back up plan for water. What if a water supply is contaminated? Bottled water would be gone from stores within hours. People really underestimate how close we are from slipping back into savages if **** falls apart. A large solar flare is my worst fear since its the likeliest thing to happen. Can you imagine no power nationwide for weeks/months? And it would be more countries than just us. No one wants to fix or prepare for it.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
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Hmmm what? As long as you have money you can do anything
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