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» I truly believe jeff seid is natty (srs) 2 year transformation
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post 1486430551 03-08-2017, 03:06 PM
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I truly believe jeff seid is natty (srs) 2 year transformation

there's absolutely nothing impressive about his size, he's impressive for his aesthetics and symmetry. he's like 6'0 or 6'1 and i'm pretty sure his stage weight is somewhere in the 170s and gets dwarfed by a lot of the people he competes against. and on top of that obviously all the pics he puts up are under good lighting and a pump so he looks 10x more impressive than if he's just walking down the street.

Now obviously he could be not natty, that's definitely a possibility, but i personally think he is actually natty. especially when you look at his pics from when he was like 16 or 17

if you're one of the people that preaches he's 100% not natty no chance of being natural i think you're a puzzy. srs.

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I agree, it's possible he has used some banned stimulants. But it's his genetics I'm pretty sure. Not sure why so many people claim he's not natural.



Probably because of Zyzz, and we all know Zyzz was very open about his use and they are somewhat comparable in terms of leanness, but Seid doesn't have the proportions or even the size Zyzz had at his prime.


So it's very believable he is natural. Just look at his pics when he's a teen, you can tell the guy has some good genetics.
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Left: cold

Right: Pumped

Also good luck being that full when at his body fat.
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Sorry but hes not, nothing to do with weight or leaness his appearance just is not achievable naturally. Compare him to genuine nattys like nick wright and you'll see its night and day.
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Originally Posted By BaconEggs
Left: cold

Right: Pumped

Also good luck being that full when at his body fat.
He could have carb loaded before the photo and pumped up. Very possible while being that lean.


Now I'm not sure his weight but if he were that lean at say 220-230 then I would definitely call cell tech. And I know my cell tech..
Originally Posted By LukeS1
Sorry but hes not, nothing to do with weight or leaness his appearance just is not achievable naturally. Compare him to genuine nattys like nick wright and you'll see its night and day.
You should hang out with black dudes more if you don't believe that is not attainable naturally.

It's a combo of his leanness and symmetry that give an illusion of some size. But he is light as fu*k, and not very tall..
post 1486431221 03-08-2017, 03:11 PM
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You wish he was natty.
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lol @ you srs. A 30 second video clip of this kid talking is enough for any non deluded person to know whats up. And nobody is citing his mass/bodyweight as evidence of teching...
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Who gives a fukk, he has one of the best looking physiques in the country and makes a good living off of it.
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Originally Posted By Comstarr
Who gives a fukk, he has one of the best looking physiques in the country and makes a good living off of it.
It comes down to this regardless.
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good genetics. hes natty
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OP that first pic was taken in 2014 if i recall...and hes been training since he was 12 years old. So he has almost been training 11 years in total, and 9 at the time of that 1st photo. So in conclusion, you really think after 9 years of consistent training you're gonna make gains like that in 2 years? fuk outta here
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Originally Posted By Comstarr
Who gives a fukk, he has one of the best looking physiques in the country and makes a good living off of it.
Ofc, and most people could take all the gear in the world but never look as good his bone structure and instertions are amazing
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post 1486432341 03-08-2017, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By lntense
You're acting like the typical delusional miscer who thinks cell tech is this magic supplement.


He has good genetics, period. VERY attainable for a select few. I have a friend who is lean like that and has full muscle bellies, but literally almost eats whatever he wants and does crossfit/p90x of all things. He's black and has outstanding genetics. I tried to get him to put on some size which he could transform his body in 2-4 months(with minimal diet change) but he doesn't like to train for hypertrophy or train intensely, but could be just as lean and probably dwarf Seid, the work ethic and drive just isn't there for him.
Post pics then
post 1486432461 03-08-2017, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By lntense
You're acting like the typical delusional miscer who thinks cell tech is this magic supplement.


He has good genetics, period. VERY attainable for a select few. I have a friend who is lean like that and has full muscle bellies, but literally almost eats whatever he wants and does crossfit/p90x of all things. He's black and has outstanding genetics. I tried to get him to put on some size which he could transform his body in 2-4 months but he doesn't like to lift heavy or train intensely, but could be just as lean and probably dwarf Seid, the work ethic and drive just isn't there for him.
I never said its a magic supplement? They are very powerful drugs and do yield amazing results but dont do anything unless you put the work in.

Regardless aas, certain ones in particular give your muscles a shape, dryness, hardness that nothing else can, this is a fact
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post 1486432591 03-08-2017, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil
Post pics then
He's not on social media and "sells" things, so maybe when I'm over there sometime I can get a pic. But that would sound pretty homo.
Originally Posted By LukeS1
I never said its a magic supplement? They are very powerful drugs and do yield amazing results but dont do anything unless you put the work in.

Regardless aas, certain ones in particular give your muscles a shape, dryness, hardness that nothing else can, this is a fact
I agree with the bolded 100% and know from experience, never said that wasn't true. But I think you would be surprised if you saw Seid on these "supplements".

He could look like a freak.
post 1486432661 03-08-2017, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil
OP that first pic was taken in 2014 if i recall...and hes been training since he was 12 years old. So he has almost been training 11 years in total, and 9 at the time of that 1st photo. So in conclusion, you really think after 9 years of consistent training you're gonna make gains like that in 2 years? fuk outta here
and the first pic is probably cold and has pretty chitty lighting. second pic is under perfect lighting, a pump, and possibly carb loaded too.

look at him in a t shirt: he doesn't look like anything special at all


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The fact that his mass is not that impressive is not an argument of him being natty. You will find out yourself when you try to diet down to his level every summer, and see how much muscle you actually have. You will be dissappointed. Meanwhile jeff seid is shredded 365 days a year, all while travelling and partying all the time.
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Originally Posted By lntense
He could have carb loaded before the photo and pumped up.
Carb loaded with eggs, brah
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Hes not natty.

End of discussion
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Originally Posted By somfking
and the first pic is probably cold and has pretty chitty lighting. second pic is under perfect lighting, a pump, and possibly carb loaded too.

look at him in a t shirt: he doesn't look like anything special at all


Um yes he does look like he lifts. Lol. The angle, t shirt and whatnot just doesnt compliment his true size.

Hes not natty ffs. How can you lift for 3+ years and be so delusional. I'm not gonna argue it anymore but god damn
post 1486434431 03-08-2017, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil
Um yes he does look like he lifts. Lol. The angle, t shirt and whatnot just doesnt compliment his true size.

Hes not natty ffs. How can you lift for 3+ years and be so delusional. I'm not gonna argue it anymore but god damn
no clue why the pic didn't embed correctly lol.
but i didn't say he looks like he doesn't lift. He looks like he lifts for sure but doesn't look crazy.

but agree to disagree i suppose
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jeff is def not natty but he does put in the work. i would be lying if I was saying I didn't want to look like jeff seid
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that muscle definition AND that body fat % pretty much all year round

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I cannot believe anyone thinks this guy could possibly be natty. Seriously get on dat der and you will be completely let down if you think even you could look 1/2 as good with a meticulous diet and copious amounts of dat der. HE IS ON YOU DUMBS. Just for future reference if anyone is paid for their body image..... Their body is their source of income...... THEY ARE ON DA SAUCE.
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Competes at the olympia level ---> not natty
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fukin just lol.
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You think a fitness model will be natty? Let's not even bring up the fact he got bigger and leaner even after 2 years (while not being a beginner )
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Originally Posted By SuperTrapper
You cannot know if someone is natty unless you test him.
Claiming weight to support evidence of being natty is ridiculous.
Look at how many guys take steroids and then have nothing impressive to show for it.

The only way to know it someone is natty is to test him.

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This is false

One, you can clearly tell some people arent natural based off strength, size, vascularity and other characteristics that arent possible naturally

Two, drug tests are essentially meaningless, lance armstrong never failed one even though it has been confirmed he used his whole career
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