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post 1486436271 03-08-2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By somfking⏩
no clue why the pic didn't embed correctly lol.
but i didn't say he looks like he doesn't lift. He looks like he lifts for sure but doesn't look crazy.

but agree to disagree i suppose
You only think he doesn't look crazy but he isn't kai green/ronnie coleman etc.

There are a lot of small/ripped/muscular guys on the stuff, not everyone wants the big and lean look, just the full/athletic look. I have frequented other forums where lifters do the stuff, I also know one or two natural bodybuilders, and I don't believe for a second jeff seid is natural.
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Originally Posted By SuperTrapper⏩
You cannot know if someone is natty unless you test him.
Claiming weight to support evidence of being natty is ridiculous.
Look at how many guys take steroids and then have nothing impressive to show for it.

The only way to know it someone is natty is to test him.

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I don't know.. he could be natty.. only way to know is if we test him boyos.

post 1486436521 03-08-2017, 03:51 PM
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I seriously hope you guys are trolling, if not keep chasing your impossible dream and maybe in 10 years time you'll look like omar isuf
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
This is false

One, you can clearly tell some people arent natural based off strength, size, vascularity and other characteristics that arent possible naturally

Two, drug tests are essentially meaningless, lance armstrong never failed one even though it has been confirmed he used his whole career
The range for strength is alot larger than the spectrum for muscular gains. People underestimate how strong you can get (srs). That is harder to assume unless it's really high elite strength
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He stays relatively the same year round. I do believe he is on some type of performance enhancing drug.
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I read that he takes a multi though.
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil⏩
The range for strength is alot larger than the spectrum for muscular gains. People underestimate how strong you can get (srs)
I dont doubt that, some guys are just naturally very strong. Anyone winning big shows or breaking records without doubt is on though, even "natty" tested ones
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post 1486437301 03-08-2017, 03:57 PM
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he's not natty, some of you are delusional as fuk
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
He's not on social media and "sells" things, so maybe when I'm over there sometime I can get a pic. But that would sound pretty homo.




I agree with the bolded 100% and know from experience, never said that wasn't true. But I think you would be surprised if you saw Seid on these "supplements".

He could look like a freak.
Other than sheer size, he has nothing ELSE to gain from those "supplements" and it's clear that he doesn't want to get too big for the sake of his image. Stop using this as support that he could be natty because he's clearly not.

Look, we know he's genetically VERY gifted and some natties can pull of similar looking photos in the right conditions (lighting, pump, camera angles) but when you look at EVERYTHING (including mutliple photos of Seid and boy are there plenty), it becomes very obvious. Most people couldn't look like him with or without the stuff but stop deluding other people.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
I dont doubt that, some guys are just naturally very strong. Anyone winning big shows or breaking records without doubt is on though, even "natty" tested ones
Anyone benching 500+ is on, it takes like 2 years of lifting for everyone's naive beliefs to get shattered. Had a dude tell me Ray Williams never cycled at 6' 400lbs squating 1050 lmao RAW, but had the nerve to tell me Eddie Hall is definitely not natty because he doesn't compete tested like Ray.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
I dont doubt that, some guys are just naturally very strong. Anyone winning big shows or breaking records without doubt is on though, even "natty" tested ones
All time absolute world records, yes



National records
junior world records

very possible natty
Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
Anyone benching 500+ is on, it takes like 2 years of lifting for everyone's naive beliefs to get shattered. Had a dude tell me Ray Williams never cycled at 6' 400 squating 1050 lmao RAW
Hmmm probably, I think someone with amazing bench genetics and if he was fat as fuk could bench 500lbs, for example someone of this calibre

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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
You're acting like the typical delusional miscer who thinks cell tech is this magic supplement.


He has good genetics, period. VERY attainable for a select few. I have a friend who is lean like that and has full muscle bellies, but literally almost eats whatever he wants and does crossfit/p90x of all things. He's black and has outstanding genetics. I tried to get him to put on some size which he could transform his body in 2-4 months(with minimal diet change) but he doesn't like to train for hypertrophy or train intensely, but could be just as lean and probably dwarf Seid, the work ethic and drive just isn't there for him.
lol, you know the study bout cell tech users gaining 7kg of muscle in a few weeks, over 2.5kg of natties?

or non-lifting techers gaining 4-5kg while non-lifting natties, obviously, 0

it quite literally is the only magic pill that exists

edit: obviously seid has insane genetics, like zyzz, there's a lot of guys who take tech and still look like chit
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil⏩
All time absolute world records, yes



National records
junior world records

very possible natty




Hmmm probably, I think someone with amazing bench genetics and if he was fat as fuk could bench 500lbs, for example someone of this calibre

I'll rephrase anyone repping 500 def on juice, but this dude is the perfect genetic freak, most people can't replicate this. Even bench chasers like Mark Bell Admitted how hard it is to get 500+ raw and nattt
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post 1486438671 03-08-2017, 04:06 PM
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[QUOTE=MitchellPhil post_id=1486437601]All time absolute world records, yes



National records
junior world records

very possible natty




Hmmm probably, I think someone with amazing bench genetics and if he was fat as fuk could bench 500lbs, for example someone of this calibre

[youtube]l84vmuuuHRg[/yotube][/QUOTE]Yeh its possible for genetic elites, with perfect diet and training in some cases.

But then you have to ask someone who puts that much effort in, why would they stay natty when using would give them a massive boost and theres no chance of being caught? Its too easy not to
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
I'll rephrase anyone repping 500 def on juice, but this dude is the perfect genetic freak, most people can't replicate this. Even bench chasers like Mark Bell Admitted how hard it is to get 500+ raw and nattt
Oh for sure lol, at that point they are def on the stuff. I know a natty that benches a bit over 4 plates at 180lbs, takes many years of strength training but some people def have a genetic gift to aid them
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Yeh its possible for genetic elites, with perfect diet and training in some cases.

But then you have to ask someone who puts that much effort in, why would they stay natty when using would give them a massive boost and theres no chance of being caught? Its too easy not to
Further you get get as a natural, the better your results will be when you hop on.

Tom martin was lifting some seriously heavy weight as a (what I believe) natty. Now he's obviously on the stuff and I could see him one day breaking the all time deadlift record

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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil⏩
You only think he doesn't look crazy but he isn't kai green/ronnie coleman etc.

There are a lot of small/ripped/muscular guys on the stuff, not everyone wants the big and lean look, just the full/athletic look. I have frequented other forums where lifters do the stuff, I also know one or two natural bodybuilders, and I don't believe for a second jeff seid is natural.
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Originally Posted By ProteenBrah⏩
just lol @ "/thread" gtfo *******.

His personality combined with the fact that he's in the fitness industry... he's on. There is pretty much no reason for him to stay natty. He's juiced and that's ok, there's nothing wrong with that. End of story. Tests don't mean chit anyway, do you even follow the Olympics?
but you could argue there's no reason for him to hop on/have hopped on when he has made it already. i feel like hopping on would be worth it to make it, but he's been in the industry since a teenager.

if you believe hes not natty at what point do you think he hopped on? because people have been arguing over this for years, do you think he's been on since 16 or 17 years old?
Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
I'll rephrase anyone repping 500 def on juice, but this dude is the perfect genetic freak, most people can't replicate this. Even bench chasers like Mark Bell Admitted how hard it is to get 500+ raw and nattt
playing devils advocate, you're saying this guy is natty benching in the 400s at 150 lbs body weight because he's the perfect genetic freak, but isn't seid practically the perfect genetic freak from an aesthetic/insertion/height standpoint?
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Originally Posted By somfking⏩
playing devils advocate, you're saying this guy is natty benching in the 400s at 150 lbs body weight because he's the perfect genetic freak, but isn't seid practically the perfect genetic freak from an aesthetic/insertion/height standpoint?
Like I said, the spectrum for strength is far bigger than the range in regards to what you can gain in muscle mass, that goes for anyone.

Also the guy was a tank at 17, I personally think he hopped on around 16 just from the pics I've seen of him online

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Originally Posted By Comstarr⏩
Who gives a fukk, he has one of the best looking physiques in the country and makes a good living off of it.
This. Never understood the constant debate over this sht.
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Originally Posted By J1992⏩
This. Never understood the constant debate over this sht.
The dude is putting NATURAL in capitals. Just think it's lame to lie. I understand it's his career and he can't risk/lose sponsors/endorsments/shows etc, but that chit is weak. Just don't prance around like you're something that you're not and everyone will respect you more.
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Lol he is on and not some beginner cycle either

Most of you have no idea how much **** he is on lol

Inb4 the guys with a friend who doesnt gym but eats w.e he wants and is shredded af

The biggest problem with discussions like this is that most miscers overestimate their own physique when they compare themselves to jeff thinking they are similar

They think since they are natty and in their head they think they are not far off from jeff then he can be natty too

Mainly delusions of grandeur
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He is playing you and every other teen noob lifter like a piano.Am pretty sure those pics aren't 2 years apart.
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Originally Posted By anchassybrah⏩
He is playing you and every other teen noob lifter like a piano.Am pretty sure those pics aren't 2 years apart.
i'd believe the pics are 2 years apart assuming the first one is cold and it's in bad lighting and assuming the second one is pumped and carb loaded with insane lighting.

and he ain't playing me feeg i don't buy any of his chit, follow him on IG and that's it. And i'm not saying he's 100% natty no questions asked, i just personally believe he could be natty but might not be
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Originally Posted By somfking⏩
playing devils advocate, you're saying this guy is natty benching in the 400s at 150 lbs body weight because he's the perfect genetic freak, but isn't seid practically the perfect genetic freak from an aesthetic/insertion/height standpoint?
Like Mitchell said I think is different because some people have better control of their muscle fibers earlier and easier than others. Muscle gain is hard capped for most people Naturally depending on joint sizes.it's why some of the biggest wheels from body builders don't out squat or out deadlift powerlifters who train for peek strength.
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I still cannot believe I am reading that this many of you guys actually think it is even possible. I thought more miscers had dabbled in the dark side. You are obviously going to be sad VERY sad at the best one can look natty. If you think this is even in the spectrum of possible.
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Originally Posted By SasquatchHunter⏩
I still cannot believe I am reading that this many of you guys actually think it is even possible. I thought more miscers had dabbled in the dark side. You are obviously going to be sad VERY sad at the best one can look natty. If you think this is even in the spectrum of possible.
Most miscers don't even lift, and most that do don't know how to diet properly without bingeing on junk food every other day lol.
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he has top genetics look at his insertions almost every muscle is perfectly shaped.
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