Thread: Arguing with Vegans is the Worst
03-23-2017, 10:56 AM
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I think a lot of vegan brah's get radicalized by constantly having to defend and explain their diet (especially against meat heads, no offence)
Next time hit em with this study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0317132004.htm
- ''Tsiman of the Bolivian Amazon have world's healthiest hearts, says study''
- 14% of their diet is meat
Obviously they can talk about ethics and the US meat industry but you can win on health fairly easily...
Cliffs:
- Almost universally agreed by scientists that a low red meat, non processed food diet is the healthiest
Next time hit em with this study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0317132004.htm
- ''Tsiman of the Bolivian Amazon have world's healthiest hearts, says study''
- 14% of their diet is meat
Obviously they can talk about ethics and the US meat industry but you can win on health fairly easily...
Cliffs:
- Almost universally agreed by scientists that a low red meat, non processed food diet is the healthiest
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
you haven't debated the real hardcore vegans.Because they usually arn't even arguing...
BRB them taking moral high ground over and over because they don't eat meat
All emotion and no substance...phuk that
BRB them taking moral high ground over and over because they don't eat meat
All emotion and no substance...phuk that
brb whining about greenhouse gases from meat industry
brb "we could end world hunger with all the grain we use for cattle"
brb eating meat worse than smoking, read muh study
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03-23-2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
Well there are several problems with this.I think a lot of vegan brah's get radicalized by constantly having to defend and explain their diet (especially against meat heads, no offence)
Next time hit em with this study
sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170317132004
- ''Tsiman of the Bolivian Amazon have world's healthiest hearts, says study''
- 14% of their diet is meat
Obviously they can talk about ethics and the US meat industry but you can win on health fairly easily...
Cliffs:
- Almost universally agreed by scientists that a low red meat, non processed food diet is the healthiest
Next time hit em with this study
sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170317132004
- ''Tsiman of the Bolivian Amazon have world's healthiest hearts, says study''
- 14% of their diet is meat
Obviously they can talk about ethics and the US meat industry but you can win on health fairly easily...
Cliffs:
- Almost universally agreed by scientists that a low red meat, non processed food diet is the healthiest
1) Their diet mainly consists of non processed food and wild game. In 99% of places, the average North American is eating factory farmed meat loaded with anti biotics and god knows what. We also eat a ton processed food while these people eat none which I imagine has a significant impact on health quality.
2) These people are incredibly active basically every single during their entire life and only remain inactive for 10% of their entire day. The same simply can not be said for 90%+ of the American population. Its obvious that more exercise leads to a much healthier body. Also it looks like they don't smoke or do any other drugs either.
3) These people eat very little meat consisting of only 10% of their diet. Most people I know eat meat in every single meal, every day.
03-23-2017, 11:21 AM
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03-23-2017, 11:27 AM
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Vegans: don't use animal products because they want to eliminate unnecessary animal suffering
Where could anyone possibly have a problem with vegans? And most vegans get that you won't switch. Just don't make dumbass arguments with them. Meat is not necessary in a diet, and you can build a world class body without it.
Where could anyone possibly have a problem with vegans? And most vegans get that you won't switch. Just don't make dumbass arguments with them. Meat is not necessary in a diet, and you can build a world class body without it.
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03-23-2017, 11:27 AM
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03-23-2017, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
BRB all studies from vegan.comyou haven't debated the real hardcore vegans.
brb whining about greenhouse gases from meat industry
brb "we could end world hunger with all the grain we use for cattle"
brb eating meat worse than smoking, read muh study
brb whining about greenhouse gases from meat industry
brb "we could end world hunger with all the grain we use for cattle"
brb eating meat worse than smoking, read muh study
BRB our teeth are meant for plants
BRB can get all vitamins and nutrients by eating a truckload of beans and grass
Meat is great for you...If you are against it ethically, then hunt or buy meat obtained by more "ethical" (organic, grass fed, etc) means. Another problem is the cost to eat "ethically". People don't want to spend 2x - 5x the cost of their normal eating to eat ethically. Beliefs usually go out the window then it really hurts your wallet.
If eating "ethically" cost the same as everything else, I don't think this would even be an argument. Ethical in quotes because it is really in the eye of the beholder of how you view animals.
Originally Posted By phillyfreak7⏩
IMO you have it reversed. I don't think meat eaters give a phuk what people eat. Vegans tend to push their beliefs more often. Vegans have a problem with meateaters.Vegans: don't use animal products because they want to eliminate unnecessary animal suffering
Where could anyone possibly have a problem with vegans? And most vegans get that you won't switch. Just don't make dumbass arguments with them. Meat is not necessary in a diet, and you can build a world class body without it.
Where could anyone possibly have a problem with vegans? And most vegans get that you won't switch. Just don't make dumbass arguments with them. Meat is not necessary in a diet, and you can build a world class body without it.
-Like I said....then eat meat that was farmed "ethically"...That doesn't mean don't eat meat
-Saying meat is not necessary is true but it effects quality of life...Meat provides nutrients and vitamins easily where it can be difficult with vegan diets
-99.9% of the bodies you admire eat meat...The few exceptions dont make vegan diets a good idea
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
Yup, I think alot of vegans try to humanize animals.BRB all studies from vegan.com
BRB our teeth are meant for plants
BRB can get all vitamins and nutrients by eating a truckload of beans and grass
Meat is great for you...If you are against it ethically, then hunt or buy meat obtained by more "ethical" (organic, grass fed, etc) means. Another problem is the cost to eat "ethically". People don't want to spend 2x - 5x the cost of their normal eating to eat ethically. Beliefs usually go out the window then it really hurts your wallet.
If eating "ethically" cost the same as everything else, I don't think this would even be an argument. Ethical in quotes because it is really in the eye of the beholder of how you view animals.
BRB our teeth are meant for plants
BRB can get all vitamins and nutrients by eating a truckload of beans and grass
Meat is great for you...If you are against it ethically, then hunt or buy meat obtained by more "ethical" (organic, grass fed, etc) means. Another problem is the cost to eat "ethically". People don't want to spend 2x - 5x the cost of their normal eating to eat ethically. Beliefs usually go out the window then it really hurts your wallet.
If eating "ethically" cost the same as everything else, I don't think this would even be an argument. Ethical in quotes because it is really in the eye of the beholder of how you view animals.
Now I got a major problem with these POS psychopathic farmers who abuse their animals on purpose. Like those farmers they catch on film kicking cows in the head.
Free range stuff, I don't really care. Use the animal for sustenance, not as an outlet for sick torture fantasies or to blow off steam. Tho if I'm honest I think being Vegan will become the norm eventually. Probably not anytime soon but eventually.
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03-23-2017, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
All of this hurts my headBRB all studies from vegan.com
BRB our teeth are meant for plants
BRB can get all vitamins and nutrients by eating a truckload of beans and grass
Meat is great for you...If you are against it ethically, then hunt or buy meat obtained by more "ethical" (organic, grass fed, etc) means. Another problem is the cost to eat "ethically". People don't want to spend 2x - 5x the cost of their normal eating to eat ethically. Beliefs usually go out the window then it really hurts your wallet.
If eating "ethically" cost the same as everything else, I don't think this would even be an argument. Ethical in quotes because it is really in the eye of the beholder of how you view animals.
IMO you have it reversed. I don't think meat eaters give a phuk what people eat. Vegans tend to push their beliefs more often. Vegans have a problem with meateaters.
-Like I said....then eat meat that was farmed "ethically"...That doesn't mean don't eat meat
-Saying meat is not necessary is true but it effects quality of life...Meat provides nutrients and vitamins easily where it can be difficult with vegan diets
-99.9% of the bodies you admire eat meat...The few exceptions dont make vegan diets a good idea
BRB our teeth are meant for plants
BRB can get all vitamins and nutrients by eating a truckload of beans and grass
Meat is great for you...If you are against it ethically, then hunt or buy meat obtained by more "ethical" (organic, grass fed, etc) means. Another problem is the cost to eat "ethically". People don't want to spend 2x - 5x the cost of their normal eating to eat ethically. Beliefs usually go out the window then it really hurts your wallet.
If eating "ethically" cost the same as everything else, I don't think this would even be an argument. Ethical in quotes because it is really in the eye of the beholder of how you view animals.
IMO you have it reversed. I don't think meat eaters give a phuk what people eat. Vegans tend to push their beliefs more often. Vegans have a problem with meateaters.
-Like I said....then eat meat that was farmed "ethically"...That doesn't mean don't eat meat
-Saying meat is not necessary is true but it effects quality of life...Meat provides nutrients and vitamins easily where it can be difficult with vegan diets
-99.9% of the bodies you admire eat meat...The few exceptions dont make vegan diets a good idea
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Originally Posted By Khaloyan⏩
Just like debating with religious types or die hard Cross fitters, etc, they take a "don't confuse me with the facts" approach and rely primarily on feels and chit. Cults gonna cult and all that brah.I prefer arguing with women, at least you come to a point at sometime.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
LOLd out loud. Srs.BrinkZone, Where Bro-Science Got Rabies and Died!
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I am not a genetic freak and I tried to be a vegan and lost size, went back to eating meat and gained back my size so I can say its not for me.
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i don't know if it's an american thing or just a miscer thing but i've never met an annoying vegan as they're portrayed on here, it's actually always the non vegan who want to argue or they tease the vegans in the most childish fashion
03-23-2017, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By azerty23⏩
lol thisi don't know if it's an american thing or just a miscer thing but i've never met an annoying vegan as they're portrayed on here, it's actually always the non vegan who want to argue or they tease the vegans in the most childish fashion
this thread is a perfect example
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Originally Posted By azerty23⏩
This is the reality. Shame misc alphas are too alpha to not be utterly retarded on the issue.i don't know if it's an american thing or just a miscer thing but i've never met an annoying vegan as they're portrayed on here, it's actually always the non vegan who want to argue or they tease the vegans in the most childish fashion
03-23-2017, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
I'd say its the exact opposite when it comes to vegans. We can dish out facts out all day but people will still come up with ridiculous arguments.Just like debating with religious types or die hard Cross fitters, etc, they take a "don't confuse me with the facts" approach and rely primarily on feels and chit. Cults gonna cult and all that brah.
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Originally Posted By natr12⏩
Vegans wouldn't know facts if it fell from the sky and landed on their face and started to wiggle. Inb4 China Study. Please go.I'd say its the exact opposite when it comes to vegans. We can dish out facts out all day but people will still come up with ridiculous arguments.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
I think a lot of vegan brah's get radicalized by constantly having to defend and explain their diet(especially against meat heads, no offence)
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Not even sure what the China study is. Its a fact that livestock raised in factory farms are treated horrendously their entire lives so people can enjoy a few a moments of pleasure though.Vegans wouldn't know facts if it fell from the sky and landed on their face and started to wiggle. Inb4 China Study. Please go.
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Originally Posted By ssg10587⏩
It really just comes down to the fact that most people are judgemental *******s.Because they usually arn't even arguing...
BRB them taking moral high ground over and over because they don't eat meat
All emotion and no substance...phuk that
BRB them taking moral high ground over and over because they don't eat meat
All emotion and no substance...phuk that
I've been religious - now agnostic
I've been a vegetarian- then ate meat again
I have voted Republican - and Democrat
Don't know why people argue about this crap.
I like hearing other sides as long as people are like me -open to the idea that THEIR beliefs may not be 100% correct.
I think people are drawn to veganism because it's an unconventional thing and yes, it makes them feel morally superior..Which is stupid .
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brb plane mode off... more messages plus links and studies etc.
brb told him I agree, let's meet gonna try it out. Won't
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cliffs:
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brb told him I agree, let's meet gonna try it out. Won't
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Second time I see you make a statement/judgment about vegans without a backup argument. Thus, you are invalidated.Vegans wouldn't know facts if it fell from the sky and landed on their face and started to wiggle. Inb4 China Study. Please go.
I'm not vegan, and I wont even label myself as anything.
But anyone who thinks what goes on in slaughterhouses is right, or just chooses to disregard it AND be a smartass about it, has some serious lacking issues in their brain chemicals as far as empathy and compassion is concerned. Or am I being too damn obvious?
03-23-2017, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
Not everyone does something just so they can get some selfish gain out of it. Some people actually care about the pain and suffering other people/animals experience and want people to stop contributing towards it.It really just comes down to the fact that most people are judgemental *******s.
I've been religious - now agnostic
I've been a vegetarian- then ate meat again
I have voted Republican - and Democrat
Don't know why people argue about this crap.
I like hearing other sides as long as people are like me -open to the idea that THEIR beliefs may not be 100% correct.
I think people are drawn to veganism because it's an unconventional thing and yes, it makes them feel morally superior..Which is stupid .
I've been religious - now agnostic
I've been a vegetarian- then ate meat again
I have voted Republican - and Democrat
Don't know why people argue about this crap.
I like hearing other sides as long as people are like me -open to the idea that THEIR beliefs may not be 100% correct.
I think people are drawn to veganism because it's an unconventional thing and yes, it makes them feel morally superior..Which is stupid .
03-23-2017, 01:33 PM
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There isliterallyno argument against veganism on the ethical side
There isliterallyno argument against veganism on the enviromental side
Health side can be debated, but show me board certified doctors successfully reversing or halting advanced heart disease, diabetes and almost every other chronic disease with an animal product based diet. (seriously I don't know of any, let me know if there are). There are several doctors doing this and have been for decades. I'm not talking about cancer.
Vegans are at lower risk for every major disease, fact. Protein deficiency is not a real thing unless you're starving to death. Veganism is not a handicap when trying to build muscle or compete in sport.
There isliterallyno argument against veganism on the enviromental side
Health side can be debated, but show me board certified doctors successfully reversing or halting advanced heart disease, diabetes and almost every other chronic disease with an animal product based diet. (seriously I don't know of any, let me know if there are). There are several doctors doing this and have been for decades. I'm not talking about cancer.
Vegans are at lower risk for every major disease, fact. Protein deficiency is not a real thing unless you're starving to death. Veganism is not a handicap when trying to build muscle or compete in sport.
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Originally Posted By natr12⏩
Sorry I meant that the way it makes them feel morally Superior is stupid not veganism in general. Like I said I was vegetarian for about two years . I do believe it is healthier and better for the environment.Not everyone does something just so they can get some selfish gain out of it. Some people actually care about the pain and suffering other people/animals experience and want people to stop contributing towards it.
Still don't know when people argue about it though.
It's just hard to keep up that diet when the rest of your family is not vegetarian.
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
I'm a meat eater and I tend to agree with vegans (srs)
It's disgusting what we do to animals for our own personal pleasure but we might as well eat it instead of wasting it. If I don't buy chicken today, someone else is buying it or it's going to waste.
It's disgusting what we do to animals for our own personal pleasure but we might as well eat it instead of wasting it. If I don't buy chicken today, someone else is buying it or it's going to waste.
Originally Posted By natr12⏩
2 different things in my eyes... Do I believe in eating meat? Yes. My meat ate other meat at some stage, its just the way of the world...Looks and probably does taste good, but i wont let an animal be tortured its entire life so i can enjoy a few moments of pleasure.
But do I agree with animal cruelty? Of course not. If it's a clean, painless kill and the animal doesn't suffer, and is then used completely then I have no problem with it. I think the 2 issues need to be separated and that's where Vegan's have trouble using their brains... Probably due to a lack of protein.
My GF's sister is a hardcore Vegan and was complaining that the photographers on Planet Earth wouldn't stop and assist the animals they were filming while in their natural habitat. I argued for an hour that interacting with them and assisting them would screw up their ecosystem, and probably kill off something else in the process as a domino effect, but she wouldn't listen.
03-23-2017, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
It is very stupid but tends to happen with a lot of discussions these days especially politics.Sorry I meant that the way it makes them feel morally Superior is stupid not veganism in general. Like I said I was vegetarian for about two years . I do believe it is healthier and better for the environment.
Still don't know when people argue about it though.
It's just hard to keep up that diet when the rest of your family is not vegetarian.
Still don't know when people argue about it though.
It's just hard to keep up that diet when the rest of your family is not vegetarian.
"I'm on the moral superior side therefore no debate needed. I win."
Problem is it cuts out the whole discussion. They arn't having a discussion. They are basically just saying im better than you.
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