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post 1488601631 03-25-2017, 11:54 PM
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Could China defeat the USA in a war? (NO NUKES)

Lets say that Donald Trump called China ****s and China responded by declaring war with the one rule that no nukes would be involved because then everyone dies. Who would win in the all out war? Would the US win because of our advanced weapons or would China simply overwhelm us with their sheer size?
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lol @ no nukes

Our Navy alone would destroy China
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Originally Posted By FAH_Q⏩
lol @ no nukes

Our Navy alone would destroy China
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No, the entire world vs the US would even have a tough time, America's location is absolutely perfect.
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depends on where we are fighting the war neither country could successfully go deep in enemy's country

Our navy and Air Force would wreck China's and we could land troops but they would get pushed back

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What do you mean could? USA already has China surrounded.



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You guys better start the war before they get even more stronger.
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if we apply real world scenarios then no. They would have china completely blockaded with their navy. Not only that, they would have a very strong ground front in the west. the only way China could win is if Russia allied with them and a strictly ground war broke out to where Russias and Chinas sheer numbers could overwhelm.
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Originally Posted By FAH_Q⏩
lol @ no nukes

Our Navy alone would destroy China
It would be interesting, China could rain DF-21Ds down on carrier groups and wreak them
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Originally Posted By J3remy⏩
It would be interesting, China could rain DF-21Ds down on carrier groups and wreak them
I once brought this up to a friend who works with reinforcement learning for defense computer systems at Lockheed Martin here in Colorado Springs. He is 100% convinced we would have absolutely zero issues spoofing, jamming, or shooting down more of these than they can produce with a fraction of our defense capability. I'm pretty inclined to believe him; he's been wolfing down red pills daily since freshman year of high school. Great guy.

Some people get this weird sense of having the moral high ground when they paint the U.S. to be more feeble than we really are. We are a ****ing powerhouse the likes of which the world can barely comprehend.
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post 1488603461 03-26-2017, 12:31 AM
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LOL there are no rules in war OP. Especially if you start to lose...
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http://www.businessinsider.com/how-l...e-world-2016-3

According to Business Insider, the US could win an entire global invasion and it wouldn't even be close
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Originally Posted By RJBRAH⏩
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-l...e-world-2016-3

According to Business Insider, the US could win an entire global invasion
Have read that and I think that is a more realistic scenario to debate. Could we repel the entire world or not? We are at a level of military strength and advancement that our Navy alone could probably wipe out any chance of a world alliance from even reaching our shores.

Logistics and supply chains are a hell of a factor.
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The only nation on earth with total global force projection is the USA. Russia and China have regional total force projection and even that is limited.




You need to read the book "Geographical Prisons" to help understand why the USA will always be a superpower.
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Originally Posted By Neuronecrosis⏩
Have read that and I think that is a more realistic scenario to debate. Could we repel the entire world or not? We are at a level of military strength and advancement that our Navy alone could probably wipe out any chance of a world alliance from even reaching our shores.

Logistics and supply chains are a hell of a factor.
Well just look at how much a pain in the ass Hitler was with a country the size of Germany

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the entire world vs USA cant do sh!t to us in a conventional classic war .

even if nukes are used we have the ability to annihilate all countries combined if they launched a coherent attack.

we dont pay 600 billion$ every year on horse sh!t stuff...and 600$ billion is the known budget we know of, god knows what the real number is
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Originally Posted By doughnutking⏩
Well just look at how much a pain in the ass Hitler was with a country the size of Germany

I'm not sure if you're equating size with strength. Hitler unified quite a few forces under his regime... it was not "Germany vs Europe" at any point.
The U.S. has distributed lethality across the entire navy. What this means is that even our smallest ships are capable of taking out enemy cruisers and battlecruisers. Our Navy is nearly the size of the next NINE largest navies combined.

We are so disgustingly overpowered on all fronts that it is hilarious when others assume we can be invaded.

EDIT: Germany looks like Pacman
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Originally Posted By J3remy⏩
It would be interesting, China could rain DF-21Ds down on carrier groups and wreak them
lol turkey with its humble Arsenal jammed the fukc out of russia's su35 jf's ...and the russians couldnt do jack sh!t about it...let alone the peasant 21Ds
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post 1488604961 03-26-2017, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted By sharepass11⏩
lol turkey with its humble Arsenal jammed the fukc out of russia's su35 jf's ...and the russians couldnt do jack sh!t about it...let alone the peasant 21Ds
Our military technology and strategy is based around the mantra: See first, understand first, shoot first. This is why we have developed the greatest offense on the planet. The primary purpose is reactionary capability. Secondary is deterrence. Tertiary is defence. It would be suicide to mess with the U.S.
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I really don't see the us winning any type of war inside China. Any other part of the world USA curb stomps easy.
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Originally Posted By Neuronecrosis⏩
I'm not sure if you're equating size with strength. Hitler unified quite a few forces under his regime... it was not "Germany vs Europe" at any point.
The U.S. has distributed lethality across the entire navy. What this means is that even our smallest ships are capable of taking out enemy cruisers and battlecruisers. Our Navy is nearly the size of the next NINE largest navies combined.

We are so disgustingly overpowered on all fronts that it is hilarious when others assume we can be invaded.

EDIT: Germany looks like Pacman
I'm talking about the German war machine and the mayhem Hitler caused with it, but forget Germany for a minute. The American military is even more powerful today because of the war experience from all the recent wars they have been involved in.

So yeah, nobody is going to messing with Murica anytime soon.
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Dude no one can beat us. U fkn serious?
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China compete with America?





A.) 1 AWAC/130 loaded with BIO-ordancence + Large storm front heading toward main-land China...

B.) Deploy ordnance into storm front and let hell rain down (literally) across the entire country.



C.) Game over boyo.


































































We haven't even touched on Stuxnet-derivatives imploding every major Chinese grid preventing any type of effective response.




















































































1 plane, 1 crew and 1 team of Blackhats = game over China. We haven't even gotten into traditional-counter measures coming in to erase their condition off the face of the earth yet.... just a single isolated response lol





LOL @ f*cking with America on any level. It wouldn't even be a fight, just a genocide.
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China has been doing exactly that since the end of the 2nd Opium War.
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All this talk about blitzing China yet couldn't beat a bunch of starving 5 ft rice farmers. Just lol
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no and it's not even close
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Doesn't the US owe China a fukk load of money?
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