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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
^^ thisWould love for all the anti-abortion, every life is a human life religious nuts to actually support these precious lives they want to save. You want to outlaw abortion, how about you people take the financial burden of supporting them since the life is worth so much to you??
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
If someone doesn't want to, or isn't ready to have a child they don't have to. The choice is theirs.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
^^ thisWould love for all the anti-abortion, every life is a human life religious nuts to actually support these precious lives they want to save. You want to outlaw abortion, how about you people take the financial burden of supporting them since the life is worth so much to you??
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
If someone doesn't want to, or isn't ready to have a child they don't have to. The choice is theirs.
The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
04-05-2017, 07:31 PM
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Aaaand they're off!
-PP provides a lot of other services
-government funding (if they still get any) does not go to abortion services
-seems to me the guy was showing some initiative drumming up VOLUNTARY support for the cause instead of just whining on social media
ETA: noticed it was GUYS plural...ever think they might be doing it to meet women? Miscers have done stranger things chasing girls...see today's "I'm a virgin" tinder ploy.
-PP provides a lot of other services
-government funding (if they still get any) does not go to abortion services
-seems to me the guy was showing some initiative drumming up VOLUNTARY support for the cause instead of just whining on social media
ETA: noticed it was GUYS plural...ever think they might be doing it to meet women? Miscers have done stranger things chasing girls...see today's "I'm a virgin" tinder ploy.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
I agree, society needs to compromise on this, abortion is morally and ethically wrong. People need to take responsibility for their actions. If you can't afford baby, use contraception and condoms or don't have sex.Would love for all the anti-abortion, every life is a human life religious nuts to actually support these precious lives they want to save. You want to outlaw abortion, how about you people take the financial burden of supporting them since the life is worth so much to you??
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
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That's pretty much the definition of a cuck.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
Lol strong deduction off of logical fallacies.Multiple issues with your post.
1. You're religious, so any reasoning goes out the window, in this case. Don't quote your book as a defense because no one gives a fuk about it.
2. Human beings do not have a right to life. People have a right to life. A fetus is a human being, but not a person. A fetus is not capable of rational thought, consciousness, nor social relations. A fetus does not have a right to life. (and before you cite the constitution and bill of rights, understand that the constitution equivocates on the term "human being". it really means "person". See: all the cases involving the brain dead and anencephalic infants.)
3. I'm premed, and if I ever go into OBGYN, I'll happily preform abortions knowing full well that I am benefitting the parents and society.
Completely support planned parenthood and sex education, and am currently donating money because of this thread. I am genuinely surprised that anti planned parenthood people are smart enough to use a computer.
1. You're religious, so any reasoning goes out the window, in this case. Don't quote your book as a defense because no one gives a fuk about it.
2. Human beings do not have a right to life. People have a right to life. A fetus is a human being, but not a person. A fetus is not capable of rational thought, consciousness, nor social relations. A fetus does not have a right to life. (and before you cite the constitution and bill of rights, understand that the constitution equivocates on the term "human being". it really means "person". See: all the cases involving the brain dead and anencephalic infants.)
3. I'm premed, and if I ever go into OBGYN, I'll happily preform abortions knowing full well that I am benefitting the parents and society.
Completely support planned parenthood and sex education, and am currently donating money because of this thread. I am genuinely surprised that anti planned parenthood people are smart enough to use a computer.
I can already tell, you're one of those types that thinks-yourself-so-smart-but-is-a-mask-for-your-insecurity types. Not even worth arguing with.
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people are anti abortion cause it kills, but when Trump wants to kill the innocent family's of terrorists, and Cruz wants to carpet bomb (with a large magnitude of innocent collateral damage) they're all for it. just LOL. same goes for the people who wanted Clinton and other hawkish individuals.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Cool, all of their "Services" should be privately funded via donations. How much are you contributing to them?Aaaand they're off!
-PP provides a lot of other services
-government funding (if they still get any) does not go to abortion services
-seems to me the guy was showing some initiative drumming up VOLUNTARY support for the cause instead of just whining on social media
ETA: noticed it was GUYS plural...ever think they might be doing it to meet women? Miscers have done stranger things chasing girls...see today's "I'm a virgin" tinder ploy.
-PP provides a lot of other services
-government funding (if they still get any) does not go to abortion services
-seems to me the guy was showing some initiative drumming up VOLUNTARY support for the cause instead of just whining on social media
ETA: noticed it was GUYS plural...ever think they might be doing it to meet women? Miscers have done stranger things chasing girls...see today's "I'm a virgin" tinder ploy.
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You disagree with funding medical care for poor people? Just don't donate then I guess
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
All of their funding that goes to abortion is privately funded, if you mean they should be totally funded privately well that makes some sense, but we should be taking public funding away from other areas before we take from themCool, all of their "Services" should be privately funded via donations. How much are you contributing to them?
04-05-2017, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By PathToSage⏩
I meant what I said, thatallof their services should be privately funded. I'm not going to sit here and argue about whether they should be funded while x is being funded. I don't care.All of their funding that goes to abortion is privately funded, if you mean they should be totally funded privately well that makes some sense, but we should be taking public funding away from other areas before we take from them
It's easy to do, and takes even less time to just not include them on the budget.
04-05-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
They do. It's called a church. I've seen them do it and beg for the woman to let them rather than abort. The women don't listen in most cases and go through with the abortion.Would love for all the anti-abortion, every life is a human life religious nuts to actually support these precious lives they want to save.You want to outlaw abortion, how about you people take the financial burden of supporting them since the life is worth so much to you??
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
I personally feel extremely late term abortions are wrong, but dont come in here pretending a sac of dividing goo at 8 weeks is a "person." Society needs to compromise on this shyt. Using a fairytale book from millenia ago is not the place to start.
The personal responsibility to not get pregnant is bound to the man and woman though.
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interdasting thread... RainingBlood rustling some religious jimmies
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Maybe they should be raising money to tell kids to stop being dumb as fuk and stop fukking every damn 3 minutes maybe then they wouldn't be so pregnant
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Originally Posted By ppself⏩
According to op, pp has performed 6.8m abortions, you think there's that many people looking to adopt? Plus the extras that would be created if pp can't provide contraception.They do. It's called a church. I've seen them do it and beg for the woman to let them rather than abort. The women don't listen in most cases and go through with the abortion.
The personal responsibility to not get pregnant is bound to the man and woman though.
Next argument please.
The personal responsibility to not get pregnant is bound to the man and woman though.
Next argument please.
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Do these religious people against abortion also against fapping and killing all those potential humans?
04-05-2017, 08:00 PM
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Abortion, STD, contraceptive services provided by PP are all very important.
But miscers are too busy typing e-stats into their sigs to go educate themselves. And understand what a huge financial burden having children is even when one is in the position to allow themselves to take care of a child.
But miscers are too busy typing e-stats into their sigs to go educate themselves. And understand what a huge financial burden having children is even when one is in the position to allow themselves to take care of a child.
04-05-2017, 08:09 PM
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These abortion-lovers are so sick in the head that they reject the notion that pro-life people actually consider abortion to be murder.
Abortion-lovers think that pro-lifers only want to "control women's bodies" whatever the fukc that means.
Abortion-lovers think that pro-lifers only want to "control women's bodies" whatever the fukc that means.
04-05-2017, 08:10 PM
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04-05-2017, 08:13 PM
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Why is abortion the only thing people bring up when it comes to planned parenthood when it's by far the smallest volume service that they offer? As a dude, I would think you'd actually WANT women to be able to go get exams, birth control, etc.
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Originally Posted By HoustonMiscer⏩
They do. It's called sexual education and it's one of the many services that PP provides. In addition to sexual education they offer STI screening and treatment, Pap smears, Cervical cancer screening, breast cancer screening, condom distribution, contraception (IUD, Nexplanon, Plan B, etc), adoption referrals, etc.Maybe they should be raising money to tell kids to stop being dumb as fuk and stop fukking every damn 3 minutes maybe then they wouldn't be so pregnant
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Originally Posted By SlothLord⏩
I can accept that you think it's murder, even if I think you're wrong. But if you think it's murder wouldn't you want to do what you can to prevent them From happening, say through, I don't know, funding contraception?These abortion-lovers are so sick in the head that they reject the notion that pro-life people actually consider abortion to be murder.
Abortion-lovers think that pro-lifers only want to "control women's bodies" whatever the fukc that means.
Abortion-lovers think that pro-lifers only want to "control women's bodies" whatever the fukc that means.
Originally Posted By muscle
Those evil bastards! Who would want to donate to that!They do. It's called sexual education and it's one of the many services that PP provides. In addition to sexual education they offer STI screening and treatment, Pap smears, Cervical cancer screening, breast cancer screening, condom distribution, contraception (IUD, Nexplanon, Plan B, etc), adoption referrals, etc.
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Originally Posted By Hesher⏩
uh, cause men don't wantunwantedkids either?Even though I disagree with everything the organization stands for, I can understand why women might be fundraising, but what sort of white knight complex would cause a guy to waste his time doing this?
Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
i'll take it a step further and say that there's no such thing as right to life.2. Human beings do not have a right to life. People have a right to life. A fetus is a human being, but not a person. A fetus is not capable of rational thought, consciousness, nor social relations. A fetus does not have a right to life. (and before you cite the constitution and bill of rights, understand that the constitution equivocates on the term "human being". it really means "person". See: all the cases involving the brain dead and anencephalic infants.)
legally, sure. in your moral code, likely.
but 'right to life' is just a fukn made-up concept, stemming from the creation of society, and founded on the bullchit (but fundamental to our civilisation) idea that humans are some magical, sacred being, created specially by some divine presence.
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04-05-2017, 08:17 PM
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Also notice how liberals tell pro-lifers that they should be responsible for the cost of taking care of babies they keep from being killed, but if you tell a liberal that they should be responsible for the cost of taking care of all the third world refugees they let in to the country they flip out about collective responsibility and call you racist.
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Originally Posted By SlothLord⏩
That's what you got from this? Really?Also notice how liberals tell pro-lifers that they should be responsible for the cost of taking care of babies they keep from being killed, but if you tell a liberal that they should be responsible for the cost of taking care of all the third world refugees they let in to the country they flip out about collective responsibility and call you racist.
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kinda annoyed at anyone who walks on the sidewalk downtown asking for money, regardless of the cause. chits annoying AF to be asked for spare change multiple times a day, every day. I'm kinda religious and I think abortion is a good thing, but I don't believe in Planned Parenthood. From what I understand, their cash flows are very large and they can get by without tax dollars. They don't need pitty sidewalk donations IMO and why someone would feel so strongly to stand on the corner begging for money for a financially healthy organization is something I will never understand.
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Aren't they still getting government money? I'm not sure if Trump has put an end to it just yet or not.
but we're talking about abortion now. tbh I don't remember what my stance was so I'll have to pass on this one...
but we're talking about abortion now. tbh I don't remember what my stance was so I'll have to pass on this one...
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Right wing xians have no problem carpet bombing civilian populations, trigger when a few cells are aborted.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
I don't have anything against contraception, but when you have all those options and you still manage to get pregnant (cause you're dumb) you need to take responsibility for your actions.I can accept that you think it's murder, even if I think you're wrong. But if you think it's murder wouldn't you want to do what you can to prevent them From happening, say through, I don't know, funding contraception?
Those evil bastards! Who would want to donate to that!
Those evil bastards! Who would want to donate to that!
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Originally Posted By CroForce⏩
Yes but pp provides that contraception...I don't have anything against contraception, but when you have all those options and you still manage to get pregnant (cause you're dumb) you need to take responsibility for your actions.
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