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04-06-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
There's a chance I didn't read the thread properly, but if I remember right, his original argument is that there's a new wave of racial jokes and political agenda that actually supports violence against white people. Very subtly, but it's growing and exists. It's actually fairly well known and documented. That is accurate and a reality of the new left. On that point, while he may not have debated it the right way, he's right.I did not realize committing a logical fallacy was a sign of intelligence.
I missed anything else you guys were going at it on, but I think you guys need to chill with the personal insults at each other. Immature way to debate.
04-06-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
Glad I'm not the only one to recognize this.The guy you were arguing against was actually intelligent and trying to teach you something. He was mostly correct.
edit: He's not doing the best job of explaining it calmly but there is real truth to the original argument you two were debating early on, to not see it is just a type of ignorance. Not saying you're ignorant but there's truth to it.
edit: He's not doing the best job of explaining it calmly but there is real truth to the original argument you two were debating early on, to not see it is just a type of ignorance. Not saying you're ignorant but there's truth to it.
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^m1 you're my boy. So do a better job of explaining it than he did if you agree with him.
Anyway, you seem mature enough to discuss it properly, so please tell me some examples that you feel are creating an anti-white, violence inflicting agenda in comedy -especially from whites themselves
edit: and if you succeed with that, and I may even agree, then tell me if you believe the comedians should be allowed to, and if the comedians are responsible for the actions of others based on their jokes..
if you answer yes followed by no. Then we are undoubtedly on the same page, and there is no further discussion. I would already admit that jokes can create negative actions - but that lies in the ignorance of the listeners.
Much how like alcohol companies aren't held responsible for drunk drivers.
Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
I stopped debating when he called me an idiot. No point in staying civil so it became more of a "lol at this guy". Which... yea lol at that guy.There's a chance I didn't read the thread properly, but if I remember right, his original argument is that there's a new wave of racial jokes and political agenda that actually supports violence against white people. Very subtly, but it's growing and exists. It's actually fairly well known and documented. That is accurate and a reality of the new left. On that point, while he may not have debated it the right way, he's right.
I missed anything else you guys were going at it on, but I think you guys need to chill with the personal insults at each other. Immature way to debate.
I missed anything else you guys were going at it on, but I think you guys need to chill with the personal insults at each other. Immature way to debate.
Anyway, you seem mature enough to discuss it properly, so please tell me some examples that you feel are creating an anti-white, violence inflicting agenda in comedy -especially from whites themselves
edit: and if you succeed with that, and I may even agree, then tell me if you believe the comedians should be allowed to, and if the comedians are responsible for the actions of others based on their jokes..
if you answer yes followed by no. Then we are undoubtedly on the same page, and there is no further discussion. I would already admit that jokes can create negative actions - but that lies in the ignorance of the listeners.
Much how like alcohol companies aren't held responsible for drunk drivers.
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04-06-2017, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
I read your edited post on the last page and it's a bit of a straw man argument. You say that a joke should never be responsible for anybodies real life actions.^m1 you're my boy. So do a better job of explaining it than he did if you agree with him.
I stopped debating when he called me an idiot. No point in staying civil so it became more of a "lol at this guy". Which... yea lol at that guy.
Anyway, you seem mature enough to discuss it properly, so please tell me some examples that you feel are creating an anti-white, violence inflicting agenda in comedy -especially from whites themselves
I stopped debating when he called me an idiot. No point in staying civil so it became more of a "lol at this guy". Which... yea lol at that guy.
Anyway, you seem mature enough to discuss it properly, so please tell me some examples that you feel are creating an anti-white, violence inflicting agenda in comedy -especially from whites themselves
While technically true, it completely ignores the impact of social views and constructs. This is how racism against blacks remained a thing until the 1900s. Mainstream ideas does in fact affect peoples actions and how they treat others, that's a reality we live in.
Does that mean we should legally block those jokes? Absolutely not - and I don't think anybody even suggested that, there's your straw man debate.
We should acknowledge it's a slippery slope and it should be called out and not become OK in our culture. It's not good for anybody, white, black or otherwise. It creates a divide between us, clearly because we're even talking about it right now on a bodybuilding forum lol and you're throwing insults at the other guy and him at you.
This post I'm quoting seems to act as if you haven't noticed the anti-white agenda of the left these days. If that's the case, I don't even have the energy to point it out to you because I think it's willful ignorance. There are plenty of videos of people attacking Trump supporters violently simply because they support him, plenty of videos of people ambushing and violently attacking white people for being republicans, etc.
Am I a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for him and think Hillary might have been a bit better for our country. The smaller percent of me that did want Trump wanted him because he'd shake things up and not support this movement we're talking about but overall I think he's a bit too dangerous with his ego and could get us into another war.
The guy you were quoting had a point if he was making the same point I am here. If you disagree then we'll just have to agree to disagree, maybe you're on some really unique social media sites and not seeing the same stuff the rest of us are.
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
I don't really disagree with any of this aside from the fact that we shouldn't discourage the jokes, we should discourage the literal translation of them from listeners.I read your edited post on the last page and it's a bit of a straw man argument. You say that a joke should never be responsible for anybodies real life actions.
While technically true, it completely ignores the impact of social views and constructs. This is how racism against blacks remained a thing until the 1900s. Mainstream ideas does in fact affect peoples actions and how they treat others, that's a reality we live in.
Does that mean we should legally block those jokes? Absolutely not - and I don't think anybody even suggested that, there's your straw man debate.
We should acknowledge it's a slippery slope and it should be called out and not become OK in our culture. It's not good for anybody, white, black or otherwise.
This post I'm quoting seems to act as if you haven't noticed the anti-white agenda of the left these days. If that's the case, I don't even have the energy to point it out to you because I think it's willful ignorance. There are plenty of videos of people attacking Trump supporters violently simply because they support him, plenty of videos of people ambushing and violently attacking white people for being republicans, etc.
Am I a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for him and think Hillary might have been a bit better for our country. The smaller percent of me that did want Trump wanted him because he'd shake things up and not support this movement we're talking about but overall I think he's a bit too dangerous.
The guy you were quoting had a point if he was making the same point I am here. If you disagree then we'll just have to agree to disagree, maybe you're on some really unique social media sites and not seeing the same stuff the rest of us are.
While technically true, it completely ignores the impact of social views and constructs. This is how racism against blacks remained a thing until the 1900s. Mainstream ideas does in fact affect peoples actions and how they treat others, that's a reality we live in.
Does that mean we should legally block those jokes? Absolutely not - and I don't think anybody even suggested that, there's your straw man debate.
We should acknowledge it's a slippery slope and it should be called out and not become OK in our culture. It's not good for anybody, white, black or otherwise.
This post I'm quoting seems to act as if you haven't noticed the anti-white agenda of the left these days. If that's the case, I don't even have the energy to point it out to you because I think it's willful ignorance. There are plenty of videos of people attacking Trump supporters violently simply because they support him, plenty of videos of people ambushing and violently attacking white people for being republicans, etc.
Am I a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for him and think Hillary might have been a bit better for our country. The smaller percent of me that did want Trump wanted him because he'd shake things up and not support this movement we're talking about but overall I think he's a bit too dangerous.
The guy you were quoting had a point if he was making the same point I am here. If you disagree then we'll just have to agree to disagree, maybe you're on some really unique social media sites and not seeing the same stuff the rest of us are.
And that's something I will not alter in my belief system.
and if I committed strawman, then you two both committed red herring by involving other media and examples to prove your point - when we werespeaking specifically of a Louis CK bit
So that's unfair as well. But I agree with many of your points otherwise.
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04-06-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
Then we're on the same pageI don't really disagree with any of this aside from the fact that we shouldn't discourage the jokes, we should discourage the literal translation of them from listeners.
And that's something I will not alter in my belief system.
and if I committed strawman, then you two both committed red herring by involving other media and examples to prove your point - when we werespeaking specifically of a Louis CK bit
So that's unfair as well. But I agree with many of your points otherwise.
And that's something I will not alter in my belief system.
and if I committed strawman, then you two both committed red herring by involving other media and examples to prove your point - when we werespeaking specifically of a Louis CK bit
So that's unfair as well. But I agree with many of your points otherwise.
and you're even a bit on the same page with the guy you disagreed with.
04-06-2017, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By American
A punchline to one of Louis' jokes was an old lady thinking that black people steal and there was no outrage. calm the fk down.I think it would be funny for a black brag to get up on stage and start talking about how good they have it with affirmative actions, quotas, scholarships, sports, BBC, dating white, starting riots and basically doing whatever they wanna do while getting away with it.
Bet ppl thinking Lois cuck is funny wouldn't get a kick out o said skit would they. But it's just a joke, right?
Bet ppl thinking Lois cuck is funny wouldn't get a kick out o said skit would they. But it's just a joke, right?
04-06-2017, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
In recognizing potential damage, yes.Then we're on the same page
and you're even a bit on the same page with the guy you disagreed with.
and you're even a bit on the same page with the guy you disagreed with.In where to point the finger, no.
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04-06-2017, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
People let themselves get brainwashed with political agendas and then they just can't turn that switch off. Has to suck.Whaaat
This special was not his best but fukcing hilarious.
Bill Burr was the one that kinda wasn't up to par with his most recent.
and how is he a cuck.He made fun of both political stances about any given thing
Much less, they're stilljust fukking jokes
This special was not his best but fukcing hilarious.
Bill Burr was the one that kinda wasn't up to par with his most recent.
and how is he a cuck.He made fun of both political stances about any given thing
Much less, they're stilljust fukking jokes
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Originally Posted By MuckSnapper⏩
Busy at work, but it's a constant theme of anti white sentiment being gently pushed through a medium that you see as harmless. Not everyone sees it as harmless though.^m1 you're my boy. So do a better job of explaining it than he did if you agree with him.
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Originally Posted By m1n2v5⏩
I recognize this. Like I said though, it's important that we educate the end user, not the source - especially when the source is making jokes.Busy at work, but it's a constant theme of anti white sentiment being gently pushed through a medium that you see as harmless. Not everyone sees it as harmless though.
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Originally Posted By American
What ulterior motives do I have? I'd like to know.And minority brahs with ulterior motives like the ones itt.
They know it's damaging and so try to minimize its effect by saying it's just a joke. If they don't see it's power, they're too stupid to argue with. Either way they'd do well to remember this pendulum swings both ways.
They know it's damaging and so try to minimize its effect by saying it's just a joke. If they don't see it's power, they're too stupid to argue with. Either way they'd do well to remember this pendulum swings both ways.
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Originally Posted By Aircommander91⏩
He still does on his podcast. If he ever goes fully mainstream like Louie or Amy Schumer SJWs are going to dig through his old podcasts and crucify him.sadly you're right.
as I've watched his latest show I had the impression he was a miscer.
brb talking about the Bilderbergs,NWO
about how much a silverback gorilla could bench
he used to be more unapologetic and not give a fuk about PC chit. this latest show he was too tamed
as I've watched his latest show I had the impression he was a miscer.
brb talking about the Bilderbergs,NWO
about how much a silverback gorilla could bench
he used to be more unapologetic and not give a fuk about PC chit. this latest show he was too tamed
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I watched half of it, it wasnt great 2/5 at best.
I had a few Ahhhh moments but never laughed or chuckled. I only give him 2 stars because he went in on some touchy subjects so I respect him for that. Special sucked, so did Burr.
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I had a few Ahhhh moments but never laughed or chuckled. I only give him 2 stars because he went in on some touchy subjects so I respect him for that. Special sucked, so did Burr.
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His prime was 2007-2010, he is just rehashing the same type of material and its old. It happens to all comedians, after like 5 years you aren't funny any more. Except Kevin Hart. He isn't funny at all, but people are fuking retarded, so he will stay on top for decades.
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army⏩
Yeah, Burr's last special was pretty bad. I didn't laugh at all. Low energy and again just rehashing the same materialI watched half of it, it wasnt great 2/5 at best.
I had a few Ahhhh moments but never laughed or chuckled. I only give him 2 stars because he went in on some touchy subjects so I respect him for that. Special sucked, so did Burr.
Chappelle winning because the competition sucks atm.
I had a few Ahhhh moments but never laughed or chuckled. I only give him 2 stars because he went in on some touchy subjects so I respect him for that. Special sucked, so did Burr.
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04-06-2017, 03:14 PM
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04-06-2017, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Ancient
Kevin Hart has hilarious mannerisms, and pretty good execution but his content definitely isn't on par with top comedians. He's not all that funny, just the way he says and does things is funny and he's extremely likeable.His prime was 2007-2010, he is just rehashing the same type of material and its old. It happens to all comedians, after like 5 years you aren't funny any more.Except Kevin Hart. He isn't funny at all, but people are fuking retarded, so he will stay on top for decades.
Bill Burr is the the latest surprise for me, he was sort of less known but lately has been blowing up even though his latest special wasn't his best, it was still amazing
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
No he's not funny at all. Just a manlet that tries to compensate for his lack of height by telling terribly unfunny jokesKevin Hart has hilarious mannerisms, and pretty good execution but his content definitely isn't on par with top comedians. He's not all that funny, just the way he says and does things is funny and he's extremely likeable.
Bill Burr is the the latest surprise for me, he was sort of less known but lately has been blowing up even though his latest special wasn't his best, it was still amazing
Bill Burr is the the latest surprise for me, he was sort of less known but lately has been blowing up even though his latest special wasn't his best, it was still amazing
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Not nearly as good as his older material, he had some good bits but it didn't capitalize me nearly as much as Dave Chap's new specials did. ****, Bob Saget when I saw him live a few months back killed it way more than he did for me.
And I think his SNL monologue a little while back was better than this special too.
And I think his SNL monologue a little while back was better than this special too.
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Originally Posted By Hadtodoit⏩
Thank you for explaining.I read your edited post on the last page and it's a bit of a straw man argument. You say that a joke should never be responsible for anybodies real life actions.
While technically true, it completely ignores the impact of social views and constructs. This is how racism against blacks remained a thing until the 1900s. Mainstream ideas does in fact affect peoples actions and how they treat others, that's a reality we live in.
Does that mean we should legally block those jokes? Absolutely not - and I don't think anybody even suggested that, there's your straw man debate.
We should acknowledge it's a slippery slope and it should be called out and not become OK in our culture. It's not good for anybody, white, black or otherwise. It creates a divide between us, clearly because we're even talking about it right now on a bodybuilding forum lol and you're throwing insults at the other guy and him at you.
This post I'm quoting seems to act as if you haven't noticed the anti-white agenda of the left these days. If that's the case, I don't even have the energy to point it out to you because I think it's willful ignorance. There are plenty of videos of people attacking Trump supporters violently simply because they support him, plenty of videos of people ambushing and violently attacking white people for being republicans, etc.
Am I a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for him and think Hillary might have been a bit better for our country. The smaller percent of me that did want Trump wanted him because he'd shake things up and not support this movement we're talking about but overall I think he's a bit too dangerous with his ego and could get us into another war.
The guy you were quoting had a point if he was making the same point I am here. If you disagree then we'll just have to agree to disagree, maybe you're on some really unique social media sites and not seeing the same stuff the rest of us are.
While technically true, it completely ignores the impact of social views and constructs. This is how racism against blacks remained a thing until the 1900s. Mainstream ideas does in fact affect peoples actions and how they treat others, that's a reality we live in.
Does that mean we should legally block those jokes? Absolutely not - and I don't think anybody even suggested that, there's your straw man debate.
We should acknowledge it's a slippery slope and it should be called out and not become OK in our culture. It's not good for anybody, white, black or otherwise. It creates a divide between us, clearly because we're even talking about it right now on a bodybuilding forum lol and you're throwing insults at the other guy and him at you.
This post I'm quoting seems to act as if you haven't noticed the anti-white agenda of the left these days. If that's the case, I don't even have the energy to point it out to you because I think it's willful ignorance. There are plenty of videos of people attacking Trump supporters violently simply because they support him, plenty of videos of people ambushing and violently attacking white people for being republicans, etc.
Am I a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for him and think Hillary might have been a bit better for our country. The smaller percent of me that did want Trump wanted him because he'd shake things up and not support this movement we're talking about but overall I think he's a bit too dangerous with his ego and could get us into another war.
The guy you were quoting had a point if he was making the same point I am here. If you disagree then we'll just have to agree to disagree, maybe you're on some really unique social media sites and not seeing the same stuff the rest of us are.
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Except he wasn't playing...he kinda always was. brb, always playing the pussy-whipped ******* who hates himself.
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bill burr's latest special was disappointing and louis's just wasn't as good as his other stuff
jo koy's special tho was fukin hilarious SRS. if you guys wanna see some funny chit, check out his special SRS
jo koy's special tho was fukin hilarious SRS. if you guys wanna see some funny chit, check out his special SRS
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I watched it last night. Louie has seriously lost his charm. He used to pepper in something shocking every once in a while and it still had punch.
When you spend the first 15 minutes talking about abortion and the last 15 minutes talking about how much you want to suck dick - it kind of kills the show for me. (this is seriously what he talked about).
Chappelle was good though.
When you spend the first 15 minutes talking about abortion and the last 15 minutes talking about how much you want to suck dick - it kind of kills the show for me. (this is seriously what he talked about).
Chappelle was good though.
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