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post 1490114931 04-06-2017, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By badreligion
That was quick . So basically , Trump just started a war and he's only been in office for what ? A few months ?
He didn't start a war. He continued the same chit strikes Obama was making.
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post 1490114991 04-06-2017, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted By badreligion
We are witnessing the start of World War 3 .
16 years of cruise missiles.... buttheseare the ones to start a world War? Please explain.
post 1490115081 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Gotta say it seems like the correct response, I'm glad guys like Mattis and McMaster are there to make these important decisions while Trump enjoys his weekly getaway to South Florida.

Also, can someone get Trump some glasses? I've never seen someone so bad at reading from teleprompter.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Liberals aren't confused. Russia wanted Trump over Hillary because they thought he would be easier to manipulate.

Instead they got a knee-jerk reaction guy.
You are ****ing retarded if you think Russia had any influence in the election.
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post 1490115101 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By ONtop888
He didn't start a war. He continued the same chit strikes Obama was making.
True , I misspoke
Originally Posted By nutsy54
16 years of cruise missiles.... buttheseare the ones to start a world War? Please explain.
Again , I think I misspoke .
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post 1490115121 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By MojoTheMonkey
'Balls Deep'?

Into where? They have nukes you *******. Do you really want to play the game of 'They would never' and then 'never' happens.
And what do you think the U.S. has you misinformed idiot? Stick and stones? The U.S. can wipe out all of Russia in the matter of minutes if Putin decides to even consider launching a nuke on U.S. mainland. NATO is on their doorstep, the U.S. has the Middle East covered with military bases, and with a military budget over 8 times the size of Russia's... so tell me, who will blink first?
post 1490115151 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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My guess is that he did this as a saber rattle toward Assad and an assurance to Americans that he isn't in Putin's pocket
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post 1490115161 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89
Jester Actual saying that Russia shot down some of our missiles, unconfirmed

And that Russian personnel were around the tomahawk targets

post 1490115171 04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Why does Nutsy pretend he's not on the Trump train?
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Originally Posted By Arashi
So many apes and shills in this thread already. ISIS and dumb westerners dance and rejoice.
lol.
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post 1490115261 04-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By BalkanPrince
If America decided that Assad's time has come, he is already a walking dead man.
I'd totally kick your ass if I wanted to!

But, like, my mom's car isn't running right now so I'm stuck at home.
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Originally Posted By RogerSterling
Gotta say it seems like the correct response, I'm glad guys like Mattis and McMaster are there to make these important decisions while Trump enjoys his weekly getaway to South Florida.

Also, can someone get Trump some glasses? I've never seen someone so bad at reading from teleprompter.
So what's the end game? An ousted Assad and a chaotic jihadi wonderland like Libya?
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post 1490115471 04-06-2017, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By MojoTheMonkey
We have to be a 'hegemon'.

Except I thought being the hegemon came with benefits. I don't see how importing the whole world into our country and then outsourcing our jobs are benefits. If those are the benefits for being world police, the world can go fuk itself. Syrians can murder each other like savages for all I care.
Agreed.

Sure the hegemony is great, sure, but does a civil war in Syria really affect it at all? I don't think so. We let people kill each other all over the world. If it had that much of an impact then we would have been involved in military actions with nearly half of the world over the past 60 years. People are always fighting and killing each other.

I don't see what we're gaining from this at all. I don't see what Syria is gaining from it, again they're in a civil war, a large chunk of the country agrees with the regime and wants them to win, what are we going to do about those people?
post 1490115481 04-06-2017, 08:11 PM
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Here we go again. Someone "crossed a line", now chit has to go down, which in turn will lead to more suffering/refugees......but US gonna virtue signal with some missiles. If Assad did in fact do this, should of known to kill his civilians with traditional bombs. First a picture a boy washed up on a beach, now of one recently gassed.....but apparently, one blown apart by shrapnel would of been preferable.
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post 1490115521 04-06-2017, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By BalkanPrince
And what do you think the U.S. has you misinformed idiot? Stick and stones? The U.S. can wipe out all of Russia in the matter of minutes if Putin decides to even consider launching a nuke on U.S. mainland. NATO is on their doorstep, the U.S. has the Middle East covered with military bases, and with a military budget over 8 times the size of Russia's... so tell me, who will blink first?
I'm not worried about Putin. I'm worried about Trump who has shown he is as impulsive as a human being can get and has the authority to launch a nuke at any time. Not exactly reassuring.
post 1490115671 04-06-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By miamiceo
I'm not worried about Putin. I'm worried about Trump who has shown he is as impulsive as a human being can get and has the authority to launch a nuke at any time. Not exactly reassuring.
Trump isn't stupid enough to launch nukes . This was a reasonable response given the circumstances but now we have to keep our eye on Russia even more .
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post 1490115791 04-06-2017, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ONtop888
So what's the end game? An ousted Assad and a chaotic jihadi wonderland like Libya?
Tillerson said earlier that purging ISIS was the #1 goal in Syria. I'm guessing they'll turn to Russia to "fix' the Assad problem.
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post 1490115841 04-06-2017, 08:14 PM
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Syria is just a testing ground for the worlds militaries.

Everyone's taking shots!
post 1490115861 04-06-2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By badreligion
Trump isn't stupid enough to launch nukes . This was a reasonable response given the circumstances but now we have to keep our eye on Russia even more .
So after today's action, there was not even an investigation done into the source of the attacks, and he's already firing missiles. Seems pretty stupid to me.
post 1490115911 04-06-2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By ONtop888
So what's the end game? An ousted Assad and a chaotic jihadi wonderland like Libya?
What do you have now in Syria? A SITTING Assad and a chaotic jihadi wonderland and massive humanitarian crisis.

It's a no win situation. Obama knew it and Trump just learned it. They can sit on their hands and try to "contain" the Syrian conflict, but that clearly hasn't worked and won't magically begin to work. So they can look and see how Obama failed in Syria and try a different method. "Definition of insanity" and all that. I'm not an expert on the intricacies of Middle Eastern tribal conflicts, but the people who are are coming up with the best possible alternative to Assad's rule as we speak.

It's odd to watch Trump totally change his attitude in the past 72 hours. The realities of the complexity of international diplomacy is hitting the Trump admin, and hopefully Trump and Tillerson can learn on the fly. I don't think they can, but I hope I'm wrong. I'm also putting a lot of faith in guys like Mattis and McMaster to keep them focused and maybe just keep Trump out of the way while they handle business.
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
World war 3 incoming
Dude wwiii started on 9/11/2001

This is how modern wars are
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Originally Posted By StiffSproles
You are ****ing retarded if you think Russia had any influence in the election.
You're right. Wikileaks and fake news (the chit HoganIsRussian posts) had no affect.
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Originally Posted By Canadian2point0
Here we go again. Someone "crossed a line", now chit has to go down, which in turn will lead to more suffering/refugees......but US gonna virtue signal with some missiles. If Assad did in fact do this, should of known to kill his civilians with traditional bombs. First a picture a boy washed up on a beach, now of one recently gassed.....but apparently, one blown apart by shrapnel would of been preferable.
This. People would rather go to war than to help refugees.
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Originally Posted By miamiceo
I'm not worried about Putin. I'm worried about Trump who has shown he is as impulsive as a human being can get and has the authority to launch a nuke at any time. Not exactly reassuring.
How many times are you going to repeat the same rhetoric? If you aren't trolling and honestly think Trump would just launch a nuke willy nilly, than you really are brain dead.
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Originally Posted By miamiceo
So after today's action, there was not even an investigation done into the source of the attacks, and he's already firing missiles. Seems pretty stupid to me.
It's cute how you think we, well American citizens, know as much information as the president and his advisors.
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Originally Posted By RougeProdigy
This. People would rather go to war than to help refugees.
I ask again, what have you done to help these poor refugees? Oh that's right, jack sh!t.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Tillerson said earlier that purging ISIS was the #1 goal in Syria. I'm guessing they'll turn to Russia to "fix' the Assad problem.
Ithink it is but Trump's challenge here was to retaliate against a chemical weapons attack on civilians. The question is: where does he go from here. It is totally legitimate to say that this strike was intended to warn Assad not to do it again, without getting involved further militarily.
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Originally Posted By Peter
How many times are you going to repeat the same rhetoric? If you aren't trolling and honestly think Trump would just launch a nuke willy nilly, than you really are brain dead.
If it didn't come from his own mouth, that yes, he would launch a nuke willy nilly, then I wouldn't care. Do you not care about the trash that comes out of his mouth or do you only listen to the parts that you like from him like kicking brown people from the country?
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Originally Posted By Canadian2point0
Here we go again. Someone "crossed a line", now chit has to go down, which in turn will lead to more suffering/refugees......but US gonna virtue signal with some missiles. If Assad did in fact do this, should of known to kill his civilians with traditional bombs. First a picture a boy washed up on a beach, now of one recently gassed.....but apparently, one blown apart by shrapnel would of been preferable.
That's a great point.

Dead kids are dead kids. Does it really matter how they died? Why is using chemical bombs in a civil war better than using traditional bombs in a civil war?

The reality is that Syria is in a civil war. A large chunk of the country wants the regime to win. A large chunk of the country wants the rebels to win. Me? I don't care who wins. I could not care any less. I don't want ISIS to win because they are a threat to me and the regime is fighting ISIS as far as I know. If that's the case then the regime winning would be just fine in my book.
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