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Like if my future wife got 1 month pregnant, tested for Hep B, came out negative... then during her pregnancy she'd cheat on me with a heroin junky infected with Hep B ... and you think everyones children should be vaccinated because of a handful of dirty slooths in the country?

Give me a scenario of how a child could become infected for starters.
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Like if my future wife got 1 month pregnant, tested for Hep B, came out negative... then during her pregnancy she'd cheat on me with a heroin junky infected with Hep B ... and you think everyones children should be vaccinated because of a handful of dirty slooths in the country?

Give me a scenario of how a child could become infected for starters.
Via contact with the virus. You srs right now?

Yeah they might never come in contact with the virus, but they might, so why not protect them from that?
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Might? Do you even know how Hep B is contracted? If people could sneeze on a door handle and pass on Hep B dont you think everyone would have the disease?
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Might? Do you even know how Hep B is contracted? If people could sneeze on a door handle and pass on Hep B dont you think everyone would have the disease?
So you're trying to argue that in their life there is no chance your child will ever come into contact with hep b?

Pretty sure I didn't say anything about sneezing. We all know how it's contracted that's why I find it odd that you are so certain they could never come in contact with the virus, ever.
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Originally Posted By Oatmeal12
Don't know what to believe anymore. Met some kids that got asthma after getting vaccinated for the flu. Antivax or whatever the name is on periscope interviews real people with real stories, mothers with their daughters whose lives changed after vaccination.

on the other hand

ppl may die without vaccinations?


Can't win
People are diagnosed with asthma and other stuff all the time. People also get vaccinated all the time. The problem is then someone who's kid gets diagnosed with asthma a few months later assumes a causation with the vaccine when there isn't even a statistical correlation.
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The truth is you only need a few vaccinations if any... and not at an early age. The real side effects of vaccines appear to be 'strokes' caused in the body where blood is clogged (because of foreign bodies and heavy metals that cause inflammation) from reaching parts of organs and thus creates all types of side effects.https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=173844161
Originally Posted By cookiefiend
So you're trying to argue that in their life there is no chance your child will ever come into contact with hep b?

Pretty sure I didn't say anything about sneezing. We all know how it's contracted that's why I find it odd that you are so certain they could never come in contact with the virus, ever.
Only through sharing needles and unprotected sex with a Hep B person is how its contracted. Perhaps in high school would be good time to get the shot if your child is of that nature.
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Ugh...the yellow fever vaccine I got for my trip to Brazil the other week made me feel like ****.

If we could have kids, they'd be getting all of the vaccines.
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Originally Posted By fmylife4real
Ugh...the yellow fever vaccine I got for my trip to Brazil the other week made me feel like ****.

If we could have kids, they'd be getting all of the vaccines.
Yup, fukken lol at the, "Well I didn't contract some fuked up virus because of everyone else that is vaccinated and makes it much more difficult for it to blaze through communities" argument.

That is exactly what I am talking about when I said society but down the baby bumpers for them. Fukken morons
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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They need to come out with a vaccine that prevents chit posting, ******* op's like you.
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Originally Posted By VinnyPazRules
They need to come out with a vaccine that prevents chit posting, ******* op's like you.
Yeah but then you wouldn't ever get to post you fukin sack of chit
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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Originally Posted By Arashi
The truth is you only need a few vaccinations if any... and not at an early age. The real side effects of vaccines appear to be 'strokes' caused in the body where blood is clogged (because of foreign bodies and heavy metals that cause inflammation) from reaching parts of organs and thus creates all types of side effects.https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=173844161
Only through sharing needles and unprotected sex with a Hep B person is how its contracted. Perhaps in high school would be good time to get the shot if your child is of that nature.
lmao, how can anyone be this stupid and live to adulthood
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud
Yeah but then you wouldn't ever get to post you fukin sack of chit
oh man
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I'm going to play devils advocate here. Hear me out.


Illnesses and disease rid the weak and the inferior from the gene pool.
The majority of the problems faced in the world today are due to the population going unchecked.
Humans have eliminated famine, disease and predators from the equation.
Now we have massive populations growths.
It's no longer just the strong who pass on their genetics but everybody.
Weak, unfit you name it.


Humans as a race are going backwards.
Vaccines allow weak people to survive in times when they would've died.
They pass on their genetics and the cycle continues
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Originally Posted By r0bo
lmao, how can anyone be this stupid and live to adulthood
The good ol days pre vaccinations



I miss those days lets go back.
Belief without evidence is a fools game.

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Originally Posted By Arashi
Why dont you simple *******s answer me this one question then... why do they give infants Hepatitis B vaccines when the virus is a blood borne virus?
kids are dirty, hep is everywhere
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Originally Posted By Arashi
The truth is you only need a few vaccinations if any... and not at an early age. The real side effects of vaccines appear to be 'strokes' caused in the body where blood is clogged (because of foreign bodies and heavy metals that cause inflammation) from reaching parts of organs and thus creates all types of side effects.https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=173844161
Only through sharing needles and unprotected sex with a Hep B person is how its contracted. Perhaps in high school would be good time to get the shot if your child is of that nature.
If you think that's the only way then i finally understand why you don't think it's possible for a child to catch it. Problem with that is you are wrong, and anyone who catches it under the age of 5 has a much, much higher risk of it becoming chronic than other people.
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Good you have science to back up your claim?
Originally Posted By Lawlstud
The good ol days pre vaccinations



I miss those days lets go back.
Looks like oxygen chambers to reverse\reduce the effects of 'stroke'.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
Enough of an education to identify bs arguments that miscers tells themselves to justify their ignorance.
This. Brb the vast majority of scientists and historians are wrong because [insert completely rediculous argument with zero hard evidence to the contrary]. Just like the flat earthers and several other deniers.
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Let me tell you something about vaccines.


You should never underestimate someones desire to make money, at any cost.

I remember reading a miscer thread where his college professor did allot of research on vaccines, and what was found out was that some vaccine companies just pump out vaccines that still have problems in order to make money.

What I read was this.

There were 2 reports for a vaccine, the first report was that death was a result of taking the vaccine. This report was the first half of the trials, the second half of the trials showed there were little problems in taking the vaccine.

So what did the company do? They unleashed the krakken and sold the vaccines to the public making billions of dollars. And when people found out that some were dying because of it, the company got sued. But it was all good for them, they already made billions of dollars and even if they were to get sued for 500 million they still would make a huge profit.


Is it really that inconceivable? Whenever some new flu comes out, a new flu shot is available just like that . The media over hype it to hell and recommend every person in the United States take the flu shot. You kind of wonder how much testing was really involved in making sure that vaccine was safe. I mean, they could spend some extra time making sure that vaccine is 100% safe....but then the hype will slow down and they wont make their billions.

If you do not even believe that is possible then just lol at you.


And no, I am not talking about all the vaccines that have been out for decades that prevent small pox or whatever.All I am saying is to remember that vaccines is an industry, and some people are making allot of money, and when billions are involved then people tend to not take the moral high ground
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In the bigger picture selling vaccines is chump change compared to making people less intelligent for a cuck wage and other life long side effects to milk money through doctors.
Originally Posted By Dub329
This. Brb the vast majority of scientists and historians are wrong because [insert completely rediculous argument with zero hard evidence to the contrary]. Just like the flat earthers and several other deniers.
Why the spike in autism then *******?
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Why the spike in autism then *******?
something something correlation doesn't equal causation something something
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Good you have science to back up your claim?
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Yes.

The incidence of HBV infection has been declining over the last two decades thanks to the introduction of universal immunization programs and the implementation of blood-donor screening. Nevertheless, a significant number of adults and children are still infected each year, the latter often developing chronic infection and requiring an appropriate follow-up. In spite of a rather benign course of chronic disease during childhood and adolescence, HBV chronic carriers have a lifetime risk of developing HCC up to 25%, and an incidence of cirrhosis of 2–3% per year


B.J. McMahon
The natural history of chronic hepatitis B virus infection
Hepatology, Volume 49, 2009, pp. S45–S55

After exposure, the risk of developing CHB is indeed higher for newborns (90%) than for infants and children <5 years of age (25–30%) or adolescents and adults (<5%)

B.J. McMahon, W.L. Alward, D.B. Hall, W.L. Heyward, T.R. Bender, D.P. Francis, et al.
Acute hepatitis B virus infection: relation of age to the clinical expression of disease and subsequent development of the carrier state
J Infect Dis, Volume 151, 1985, pp. 599–603

N.C. Tassopoulos, G.J. Papaevangelou, M.H. Sjogren, A. Roumeliotou-Karayannis, J.L. Gerin, R.H. Purcell
Natural history of acute hepatitis B surface antigen-positive hepatitis in Greek adults
Gastroenterology, Volume 92, 1987, pp. 1844–1850


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...68827812003583

The information with he credited sources I pasted is just about the incidence of chronic in children vs adults, but if you read the whole article it also has some info on there on how it's spread.

And if for some reason you are still only worried about hep b once your kid gets to Jr high, don't worry, their vaccine will still be in effect.


Edit: Oh jeez, we really taking about autism now? I don't know why I bother pasting so much stuff for someone who thinks vaccines causes autism.
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Dont spam that garbage... tell me in your own words how a child can get Hep B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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something something correlation doesn't equal causation something something
So the country's children are going retarded and all you have to explain this is a chart of swimming pool drownings? Autist much?
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud
Fukin idiots 100% of the time.

Wouldn't trust them to mow my yard, yet they get to decide if their kid should be at risk of dying to some fuked up disease.


Vaccines should be government mandated.
I don't disagree per se but trying to mandate against stupid does not tend to go well as a rule. It's a tough one for sure. Crackpots will always exist. I think most school systems and such require proof of vaccinations to attend, at least did when I was a kid. Crackpots more likely to home school too.
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Dont spam that garbage... tell me in your own words how a child can get Hep B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I spammed that "garbage" because you asked for scientific proof...You also appeared to be asking about the proof of it being vastly more likely to become chronic in childhood, not how the kid got it in the first place which I thought we'd already covered, but ok.

Children catch it the same way as everyone else, through contact with the virus, which can survive a week on dry surfaces. When it comes to kids there's obviously a million different ways for this to happen, but for an example, a child with open wounds on their fingers because they bite their nails accidentally comes in contact with a sore on an infected childs arm, or something that that sore has touched on in the last week.

It would be impossible to list all of the possible ways kids can come in contact with each other's bodily fluids especially when you count the fact that it survives for a week so they don't have to have physical contact with the person.

And, yet again, the infant immunisation doesn't just cover them as infants as you seem to think. As I mentioned earlier, I'm still immune from mine.
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Youre also sure of continued immunity regurgitating from "scientist"., now tell me what the percentage of "surface" hep B entering a human body is.
You can even double your statistics by adding in a street heroin junky bleeding all over your infants toys.
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I don't agree with mandating, but I do think everyone should get vaccinated.

If you don't get your kids vaccinated, we should put prohibitions in place against them attending public school unless o e of the following is true: there is a documented medical condition that indicates vaccines should be avoided; or that the person has a documented religious belief that prohibits medical treatments of any sort, or those treatments that use the same method of application as the vaccines. In other words, if someone's religion prohibits them from going to the doctor at all, or having an injection of any sort, then they get a pass.
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Youre also sure of continued immunity regurgitating from "scientist"., now tell me what the percentage of "surface" hep B entering a human body is.
You can even double your statistics by adding in a street heroin junky bleeding all over your infants toys.
I'm sure of my continued immunity because I've been tested.

What's the point in giving you any kind of percentages because when you ask for it and don't like what you see you're going to call it "garbage" and that we shouldn't believe "scientists".

So who do we believe then? Some crack pot on the internet? Because I sure haven't seen you provide any proof for your claims, so maybe it's time for that.

If the autism one was even remotely true I'd recommend you go get vaccinated right now, in your case it actually might improve things.
Originally Posted By Hesher
I don't agree with mandating, but I do think everyone should get vaccinated.

If you don't get your kids vaccinated, we should put prohibitions in place against them attending public school unless o e of the following is true: there is a documented medical condition that indicates vaccines should be avoided; or that the person has a documented religious belief that prohibits medical treatments of any sort, or those treatments that use the same method of application as the vaccines. In other words, if someone's religion prohibits them from going to the doctor at all, or having an injection of any sort, then they get a pass.
Completely agree apart from the religion part.
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Originally Posted By Arashi
Dont spam that garbage... tell me in your own words how a child can get Hep B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So the country's children are going retarded and all you have to explain this is a chart of swimming pool drownings? Autist much?
'going retarded' huh?



lol don't bother with these idiots. they have no understanding how biological systems work.
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