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post 1490568561 04-10-2017, 05:01 PM
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Is anyone else genuinely surprised that $800 wasn't taken by somebody on that plane?

Seems like it is a 1.5h or so flight with a usual price ~$200 or so...

Not fully sorting out the PNR pre-boarding is a complete bush league move on United's part.

The second bush league move was bumping a revenue passenger for non-revenue passengers. Don't know of a single airline that would do this (some have even paid for crew flights on competing airlines to avoid this).
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Gotta love capitalism. They oversale seats to maximize profits.

Of course in REAL capitalism the plane would be forced to raise the offer until someone bites. Sale to the lowest bidder.

Not this crony capitalism bullchit.
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Originally Posted By clodoveo1⏩
Triggered but you are probably right about the situation if it happened in china. Doesn't make it right though so stop being a *******
I second that. Unrelated topics. Poorly handled situation. Already had lots of bad experiences with United. This is it. Will do anything possible to avoid them from now on.
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Originally Posted By wailshark⏩
Is anyone else genuinely surprised that $800 wasn't taken by somebody on that plane?

Seems like it is a 1.5h or so flight with a usual price ~$200 or so...

Not fully sorting out the PNR pre-boarding is a complete bush league move on United's part.

The second bush league move was bumping a revenue passenger for non-revenue passengers. Don't know of a single airline that would do this (some have even paid for crew flights on competing airlines to avoid this).
It was probably a voucher for future travel. They wouldn't give someone $800.00. I probably would have taken it though. Gotta save up for a Hawaii trip.
post 1490569751 04-10-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
airlines are garbage these days..constantly overbooking, making us pay for luggage now and trying to upsell everything from seats to food and snacks....i hate airlines in america....the flight attendants arent even mildly attractive
This x 1000000. Can't even explain how much I agree. I'm not sure if it's because I'm from a different country or maybe flying was just a lot more enjoyable when I was younger.

But phuck me. What a horrible, horrible experience it is to travel anywhere in this country. You literally get nothing besides a seat for the price of your ticket these days. Please don't tell me a small cup of coke or juice and some peanuts is "something". You have to pay to carry a bag of a decent size, pay for any sort of normal food on board the plane, so you literally rent the seat for a few hours and that's it. Can you imagine they started charging on Greyhound or Amtrak to carry a bag, or if you get into a cab and he says "That's an extra $20 to put the bag in the trunk". I've done a few long coast to coast trips the last few months and each experience is just horrible.

You wait in line like a phucking moron for 30+ minutes just to go through security, because they only have the minimum TSA staff on and 2 out of 5 xray machines going. Then you get through security and everything suddenly increases in price inside the terminal about 1000% ... brb you cant bring liquids through security ? That's ok we'll charge you $7 for a bottle of water because we know you don't have a choice.

Then if you haven't purchased the expensive tickets and can't board first, you have to pray to god there is some overhead space left for your carry on to avoid have to pay $25 for a bag. Then the whole time, these phucking kunce are overbooking the flights to get every last cent and in the meantime, screwing over people when there are no seats left. The thing they don't tell you about the $500 they give you if you volunteer your seat, is that your next ticket is a standby. So basically you take your $500, some of which you'll have to use towards a hotel to stay the night at the airport, then when you get there the next morning and the previous flight is cancelled, you are even lower on the standby list because all the people on the cancelled flight are ahead of you.

Literally the best experiences I've been having lately are on JetBlue. If you american kunce weren't so patriotic and didn't suck the dinks of American or United or Delta until the cum dripped down your necks, and supported the smaller airlines who actually provide a 1000% better experience, they would be able to compete more aggressively.

BRB fly on JetBlue ... free wifi for the whole flight (last American Airlines flight I took, they wanted to charge $12 for wifi ... lol), the most amount of legroom out of any US carrier, endless supply of free snacks (full size bags of chips and popcorn, not these phucking midget sized bags of things with 5 peanuts in there) and drinks, and boarding is done back to front so even if you paid a cheap price for your ticket, you can still get a seat at the back, board first, and have the first shot at the overhead bins.
post 1490569981 04-10-2017, 05:14 PM
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post 1490570071 04-10-2017, 05:15 PM
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post 1490570121 04-10-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Probably because it was the last flight of the night, that is not $800 cash(it's an $800 credit for a trip with that specific airline at a later date), and you would have to spend the night in the airport, or leave/hotel/re-enter security the next day.... And possibly sit in the airport all day, hopping from flight to flight, until they had room for you on standby.
Fair point - I was assuming the airline would be covering your hotel and meals as well but then again I live in a different country and usually fly in Europe where that kind of thing is common.

I also thought that if you volunteer to give up your seat your next ticket isn't a standby ticket but I guess that can depend from airline to airline as well.
Gotta love the Europeans who legally mandate cold hard cash with a long-term delay.
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post 1490570311 04-10-2017, 05:17 PM
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SO what exactly is gonna happen to United here? Any misc law bros care to chime in?
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Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
I have no sympathy for him. He's a piece of sh*t. I hope he gets deported back to China. If this happened in China and the person was American, then all the chinese would be clapping and cheering and all the headlines in every newspaper in the country would say "foreigner causes problem on airline". But Americans are all cucks, who criticize other Americans, and defend foreigners.
Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
Not my racial prejudices. Chinese isn't a race, or even an ethnicity. I just wanted to make people aware of what would happen if this was the opposite scenario. (An American in China)

Where he was born and grew up is certainly relevant to the story tho. If he had been born in the U.S., I guarantee you he would have just got off the plane without incident.
In China, the police and security teams have less power than in the U.S. He obviously doesn't understand much about America, thinking he could fight them and they would leave him alone. (if you raise enough fuss in china, you can usually get away). That isn't the way it works in the U.S. Anyone who grew up here knows that.
I hope nobody listens to this guy. No one is going to clap and no you're not going to get away with it. Don't act like his guy says when you visit China
Originally Posted By Adnim⏩
Which areas did you visit? I lived in mainland china for6 months.
post 1490570441 04-10-2017, 05:18 PM
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To everyone bitching: what would you have done differently?

They asked him to get off, he refused, and so the only way to get him off was with force.
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
To everyone bitching: what would you have done differently?

They asked him to get off, he refused, and so the only way to get him off was with force.
Offer him (or anyone) more money until they are happy to get off. It's called REAL capitalism, not this crony capitalism.
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Cops shouldnt handle civil matters.

If someone sneaks on, yeah its cool for cops to use force and remove them. But not a legit customer whos minding own business.
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
To everyone bitching: what would you have done differently?

They asked him to get off, he refused, and so the only way to get him off was with force.
Suck it up and take the loss as a company. Your customers are important. Look at them now and how many people are already refusing to use their airline again. Not to mention the inevitable lawsuit. So at the end of the day if that was your company do you really think it was worth it? **** no. They should have just sucked it up and took the loss or kept upping the money til someone volunteered.
post 1490570841 04-10-2017, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By sclimb⏩
To everyone bitching: what would you have done differently?

They asked him to get off, he refused, and so the only way to get him off was with force.
The whole point is that they shouldn't be making him get off. There's been plenty of suggestions here already.

Don't overbook.
Offer cash not vouchers.
Up the cash until someone voluntarily takes it.
Let the people already boarded stay on and don't allow any more to board.
post 1490570881 04-10-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Suck it up and take the loss as a company. Your customers are important. Look at them now and how many people are already refusing to use their airline again. Not to mention the inevitable lawsuit. So at the end of the day if that was your company do you really think it was worth it? **** no. They should have just sucked it up and took the loss or kept upping the money til someone volunteered.
EXACTLY THIS^^^^ whataver they were about to lose over some idiotic overbooking mistake is now going to cost them countless millions in bad press and publicity. Literally NO ONE is going to use united unless they spend massive marketing dollars to revamp their image/brand now. A few pinched pennies now are going to cost them later.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Eh? I've never heard of an airline kicking off passengers for crew. Generally crew can fly in the jump seat if it's available, or if there are free seats. But to kick off a passenger for a commuter crew? That's messed up.

I feel like there's got to be more to this story.
Of course there is more to it, but that won't make it on the national news. The dude refused to get off and was holding the flight up. Libs are trying to signal virtue and cry racism somehow, even though it was an Asian man and the cops were black. I am sure that the hospital has other doctors and it will probably turn out that he is a plastic surgeon or something anyways.
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post 1490571201 04-10-2017, 05:26 PM
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"The apology" is going to be studied in business class for years to come.
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Originally Posted By Clinos⏩
"The apology" is going to be studied in business class for years to come.
Like BP's response to deep horizon. Fuuuuukkkk what a PR disaster
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Of course there is more to it, but that won't make it on the national news. The dude refused to get off and was holding the flight up. Libs are trying to signal virtue and cry racism somehow, even though it was an Asian man and the cops were black. I am sure that the hospital has other doctors and it will probably turn out that he is a plastic surgeon or something anyways.
Both parties entered a contract and United breached it. They should have to buy their way out. Honestly convervatives should be more mad.

I know the fine print most likely allows United to do this, but you can't just put anything you want into a contract. There are certain consumer protections you have to follow.
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This happened to me going to Vancouver.

Bought my ticket like 4months in advance for cheap. WC women's tournament was the same day I landed. Airline oversold the flight by 20 tickets. To people who prob bought that week for 5x what I paid.

Got kicked off the plane was so pissed.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
Like BP's response to deep horizon. Fuuuuukkkk what a PR disaster
Best week ever for Pepsi.

United is boned:http://thehill.com/policy/transporta...ged-off-flight

I am asking our committee for a hearing, which will allow us to question airport police, United Airlines personnel, and airport officials, among others, about whether appropriate procedures were in place in Chicago and are in place across the United States when passengers are asked to leave a flight,” she continued.
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Wonder if it was a **** voucher where you had to use it all on one trip too.
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Originally Posted By Clinos⏩
Best week ever for Pepsi.

United is boned:http://thehill.com/policy/transporta...ged-off-flight

I am asking our committee for a hearing, which will allow us to question airport police, United Airlines personnel, and airport officials, among others, about whether appropriate procedures were in place in Chicago and are in place across the United States when passengers are asked to leave a flight,” she continued.
100% Pepsi's PR team is going out and getting fukken TRASHED tonight what a bullet dodge, it was building up too. Mountains of ******* and strippers.

Damn it's turning into a fukken congressional hearing, hopefully they passed around enough campaign donations, time to call in the favors.
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Originally Posted By wickedman⏩
Wonder if it was a **** voucher where you had to use it all on one trip too.
So many strings attached most likely. If if was 800 in cash I might take it if I could get another flight within a day.
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Who is doing any of those things?? Did you even read the thread?
This isn't the only message board talking about this. Yeah, I read it.
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Nice..they just lost a customer.
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Originally Posted By Lawlstud⏩
100% Pepsi's PR team is going out and getting fukken TRASHED tonight what a bullet dodge, it was building up too. Mountains of ******* and strippers.

Damn it's turning into a fukken congressional hearing, hopefully they passed around enough campaign donations, time to call in the favors.
LMAO. Yeah this is pretty bad. That CEO is done, if he is smart he's cashing out options RFN...just like some of the employees...
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Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Someone in the last page or two, depending on your post per page settings, already linked to UA's contract agreement.


Here you go:
hey thanks im going to read it !

so i did read it and from my understanding its all about denial of boarding - and hes already onboard

so it seems to me they goofed bigtime by letting them all on and should have caught it before it was too late

they could have said no you cant enter and made him/someone else be the one need to force his way on physically - rather than the other way around

unless i misunderstand what denial of boarding means in practice
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