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post 1490657281 04-11-2017, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By bbuild9
Reasonable gun restrictions

Limit of one gun per person per year
$300 fee per new gun
$40 per year gun tax per gun
Limit of 15 bullets per gun
Ban guns within 1 mile of any school
Tried to neg. Had to log in in. Too late.
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post 1490658401 04-11-2017, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521
Sweet. It really is shootable? I've been eyeing the performance Center 45 too. I'm just worried that it'll be a bitch to shoot. Also curious what bullet velocity is out of a short ported barrel.
Not a bitch to shoot, it was quite comfy even with the un-extended mag, which is how I'd carry it. I was able to get a full grip on it, whereas I need the extended mag on the 9mm and 40.

I only shot 100 rounds of American Eagle red box 230g through it, which is rated at 890 fps. Shot 100% reliable. Who knows what the actual velocity will end up being but I think the ported thing is way overblown. I will probably be carrying some hot-ass 185 or 200 grain +P with it. I need to look at my .45 ammo situation.
post 1490660141 04-11-2017, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
Not a bitch to shoot, it was quite comfy even with the un-extended mag, which is how I'd carry it. I was able to get a full grip on it, whereas I need the extended mag on the 9mm and 40.

I only shot 100 rounds of American Eagle red box 230g through it, which is rated at 890 fps. Shot 100% reliable. Who knows what the actual velocity will end up being but I think the ported thing is way overblown. I will probably be carrying some hot-ass 185 or 200 grain +P with it. I need to look at my .45 ammo situation.
Thanks bruh. Will rep after I spread it around.
post 1490661371 04-11-2017, 10:58 AM
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Jeebus, my FFL charges us 55 dollars every freakin' time.

must be why they never look at me with that stressed out look whenever i show up to pick it up
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post 1490661751 04-11-2017, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Jeebus, my FFL charges us 55 dollars every freakin' time.

must be why they never look at me with that stressed out look whenever i show up to pick it up
That's the highest I've ever heard. Ouch.
post 1490663591 04-11-2017, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Jeebus, my FFL charges us 55 dollars every freakin' time.
$55 transfer wtf
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post 1490666121 04-11-2017, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521
That's the highest I've ever heard. Ouch.
Lol, just come here



Speaking of all this, it's been a while since I bought a new gun. Hardly anyone here even does FFL transfers anymore apparently. Apparently a lot of them are "taking a stand" against California (as if that does anything but hurt your own business, idgi). I had to call a handful of places before the new Bass Pro we got recently will do one.
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post 1490667281 04-11-2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By RThoe
Lol, just come here



Speaking of all this, it's been a while since I bought a new gun. Hardly anyone here even does FFL transfers anymore apparently. Apparently a lot of them are "taking a stand" against California (as if that does anything but hurt your own business, idgi). I had to call a handful of places before the new Bass Pro we got recently will do one.
got your firearm safety card?
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post 1490668791 04-11-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
got your firearm safety card?
Nah, I'm above these peasants. Vets don't need it lol
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post 1490669401 04-11-2017, 11:57 AM
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Reading about all the nonsense laws and rules in CA almost (almost) makes me feel like NJ is an okay state.

Then I remember I can't have an adjustable stock on my AR.
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post 1490671041 04-11-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe
Lol, just come here



Speaking of all this, it's been a while since I bought a new gun. Hardly anyone here even does FFL transfers anymore apparently. Apparently a lot of them are "taking a stand" against California (as if that does anything but hurt your own business, idgi). I had to call a handful of places before the new Bass Pro we got recently will do one.
Tried to buy a relentless MFC lower like a year or so ago.

Ffl was all

Out of state transfer fee
Ffl fee
Ca tax
Ca lic fee
Fee
Fee
Fee

$100 lower out the door $500. Or you can buy this one for hundreds less as he points to one under the glass.
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post 1490672171 04-11-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By rahfulz
Reading about all the nonsense laws and rules in CA almost (almost) makes me feel like NJ is an okay state.

Then I remember I can't have an adjustable stock on my AR.
lol wot
Originally Posted By eltoro24
Tried to buy a relentless MFC lower like a year or so ago.

Ffl was all

Out of state transfer fee
Ffl fee
Ca tax
Ca lic fee
Fee
Fee
Fee

$100 lower out the door $500. Or you can buy this one for hundreds less as he points to one under the glass.
You paid 400 dollars in fees a year ago? Yeah, you definitely got ripped off hard. The last gun I bought the transfer fee and everything was 80 bucks, and that was just over a year ago or so as well.
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post 1490672451 04-11-2017, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By eltoro24
Tried to buy a relentless MFC lower like a year or so ago.

Ffl was all

Out of state transfer fee
Ffl fee
Ca tax
Ca lic fee
Fee
Fee
Fee

$100 lower out the door $500. Or you can buy this one for hundreds less as he points to one under the glass.
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post 1490675381 04-11-2017, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe
transfer fee and everything was 80 bucks
Even that is absolutely ridiculous.
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drum, it holds fifty, uh
post 1490675901 04-11-2017, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh
Even that is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah. It included tax on the price of the firearm. Some retarded CA law. I didn't pay tax when I bought it, so I wouldn't have been nearly as pissed if I had.
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post 1490676521 04-11-2017, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Yeah it's probably hard for them but you can't expect people to pay so much more. When I transferred my shield the FFL fee (I didn't check beforehand...should have known better) was$50...the cheapest basic shield in their case was $419.

IDK how they expect people to buy anything from them or use them for a transfer more than once.
I got in to a it of a debate bout this with the owner of my LGS two weeks ago when I showed up to league for the first time with a new pistol I had bought online.

She's asked me on numerous occasions to help advise ways to make the shop better. We have a long list of mutual friends and she knows I know Dick about guns, but I can sell. And I'm always happy to help out.

Issue number one is pricing. I bought my 5" M&P PC for 579.99 with a 10 dollar transfer. The 4.25" model of that exact same gun was in her case for $821. ON SALE (!!!!) for $789!! Sorry. That's insane. I literally showed her the emailed receipt for my gun....and the picture I took of her case.

The second issue her, is that most gun shops are full of guys that are super technical gun nerds......but ****ing suck with people, and suck even worse at "selling." My shop has don eagle job getting rid of these types....but I stop in a lot of shops as I travel, and there are still a large number of them around. Selling is a relationship business, people don't want to omen to a shop where they feel intimidated and looked down upon.

The third issue is simply understanding economic drivers. The margin percentage on a gun is pretty damn small as Relent points out. However, the margins on the accessories are often 4-5 times as high as the firearm itself. And most shops do a **** job of selling those. "You're gonna love this Glock 19! What do you plan on carrying it in? How do you plan on cleaning it?" Gotta add the " fries."

I asked her flat out last time she was complaining to me if the sho was a hobby or a business. If it's a hobby, no problem. I'd love if I could scratch out a living playing with guns all day every day. But if its a business, it needs tobe run that way.
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post 1490676831 04-11-2017, 12:47 PM
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We have an USPSA Production shooters here? Millz?
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post 1490679801 04-11-2017, 01:10 PM
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Explosion at Lake City ammo plant. One dead, others injured. This is where pretty much all 5.56 is made in America

http://www.kctv5.com/story/35124512/...munition-plant

post 1490680551 04-11-2017, 01:16 PM
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That Federal XM193 deal posted yesterday went up $0.02 per round today
post 1490680721 04-11-2017, 01:18 PM
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Beltless deadlift session just now. We on the gainz train boyos!

If I was stoopid about it I could have done a dbl with 405lbs.

135lbs x5+ - 185lbs x3 - 225lbs x2 - 275lbs x2 - 315lbs x1 - 365lbs x1 - 405lbs x1 / 315lbs 3x5 back off sets. All beltless and mixed grip past 315lbs x1.
post 1490682521 04-11-2017, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe
Nah, I'm above these peasants. Vets don't need it lol
No chit! I'm a vet (chair force Travis AFB) and I got one when I was living there. Good that you're more aware than I was.
Originally Posted By thefullmonte
Issue number one is pricing. I bought my 5" M&P PC for 579.99 with a 10 dollar transfer. The 4.25" model of that exact same gun was in her case for $821. ON SALE (!!!!) for $789!! Sorry. That's insane. I literally showed her the emailed receipt for my gun....and the picture I took of her case.
LGS with no internet connection. WTF. Should be sued for malpractice.
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post 1490683591 04-11-2017, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
Beltless deadlift session just now. We on the gainz train boyos!

If I was stoopid about it I could have done a dbl with 405lbs.

135lbs x5+ - 185lbs x3 - 225lbs x2 - 275lbs x2 - 315lbs x1 - 365lbs x1 - 405lbs x1 / 315lbs 3x5 back off sets. All beltless and mixed grip past 315lbs x1.
Why beltless?
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
No chit! I'm a vet (chair force Travis AFB) and I got one when I was living there. Good that you're more aware than I was.
I meant to edit that post. I looked into it and the new general firearms cert required since the new year does not exempt vets lol. Guess I'm back to peasant status and will have to get one.
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post 1490684191 04-11-2017, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
Explosion at Lake City ammo plant. One dead, others injured. This is where pretty much all 5.56 is made in America

http://www.kctv5.com/story/35124512/...munition-plant

panic buy all the things

just remember it was dual's fault for showing us first
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy
Why beltless?
I guess I just know my body Papa. Especially my back. I've hovered around 315lbs/335lbs for so long now that I could just tell that I would be ok working up to that 1RM. With the back off sets I decided to drop down to 80% of my top set for the day and do some 5's. I pretty much knew what 315lbs felt like and after the first set I knew I would be ok.

I just did bench. Worked up to 180lbs x5 (PR) with 25lbs jumps and now I will take off 80% of that and do some work. Sort of a Madcow top set and 531 3x5 @ 80% thing. Did 175lbs just a couple days ago for a PR as well.

BUT for squats, which I need to work on, a belt will be coming into play sometime soon. I think.

Did you get a prong or clamp belt Pops?
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I don't think 5/3/1 uses 3x5 @80%, exactly
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
I guess I just know my body Papa. Especially my back. I've hovered around 315lbs/335lbs for so long now that I could just tell that I would be ok working up to that 1RM. With the back off sets I decided to drop down to 80% of my top set for the day and do some 5's. I pretty much knew what 315lbs felt like and after the first set I knew I would be ok.

I just did bench. Worked up to 180lbs x5 (PR) with 25lbs jumps and now I will take off 80% of that and do some work. Sort of a Madcow top set and 531 3x5 @ 80% thing. Did 175lbs just a couple days ago for a PR as well.

BUT for squats, which I need to work on, a belt will be coming into play sometime soon. I think.

Did you get a prong or clamp belt Pops?
Single prong. I'll be using it for DL's mostly.....Usually only belt up for anything over 275 on squats.
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Originally Posted By IronKrazy
I guess I just know my body Papa. Especially my back. I've hovered around 315lbs/335lbs for so long now thatI could just tell that I would be ok working up to that 1RM.
I've been caught on the wrong side of that laugh before...
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Originally Posted By RThoe
lol wot



You paid 400 dollars in fees a year ago? Yeah, you definitely got ripped off hard. The last gun I bought the transfer fee and everything was 80 bucks, and that was just over a year ago or so as well.
I didn't buy it. Guy said because it was a lower there was more paper work involved.

Not sure if true or just trying to sell me an in house lower.
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy
Single prong. I'll be using it for DL's mostly.....Usually only belt up for anything over 275 on squats.
single prong master race

haven't lifted heavy enough to warrant it's use in about a year though

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