Starting to get the impression she just said yes to be nice. I've been attempting to text and all I get are short sentences with no attempts to continue the conversation. My messages aren't just "hey". They're good value giving texts. Although I will say prior to getting her number and asking to chill she gave the same responses through ******** messages and she is kind of like this in person as well. I'm still suspending my judging because she could just be a ****ty texter or nervous to **** up and text or say something dumb, but it's leaning closer towards not being interested. Which sucks because she's a cutie but I at least manned up and did something I've never done before.

you arent supposed to use text to chat. its used for logistics in the early going. set plans and talk there. nobody truly likes texting that much back and forth.

That escalated quickly.I can guarantee it's not because she a ****ty texter or nervous. If she's not taking the bait, there's nothing you can do except pull away and see if she steps up.

I absolutely agree. I've already tried to set plans, she said she was busy this week with school/exams/and coaching. (it is finals week) i am somewhat busy as well so it will need to be setup for next week. I kind of just wanted to send out little feelers to keep me fresh in her mind until I can setup plans for next week.

@pondus: she isn't my girl yet but I'm at the point where I don't really wanna talk to anyone else anymore. I expect tonight to only add to that. her tone has changed with me and she is getting a little more invested I suspect. I actually like noticing that and that tells me something.

yep. pretty sure I'm going to legitimately date this girl. She really opened up to me and we had a good time switching between actual talking and joking around. I've caught the feels pretty hard but I have a very good feeling about her.

Her family doesn't live here so I am taking her to breakfast on Sunday to give her something to look forward to on Easter.

YES BWOIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

give us deets when you can! sun is shining and Vic is smilin eh!

good day gents!

Also Nedo...ma man, sounds like she fell for those Serbian seduction moves....CheekyChris, brahonie, keep being cheekyasfukkunt

Ya no kidding. I was taken back because she said she had a sense of humor and was very sarcastic. Yet hardly joked around in person, although did through text.I've been fairly natural with her given she has been genuine and hasn't played games. I didn't make her laugh as much as I would have liked to but I did give her strong eye contact and touched her every once in a while. I've been told I have amazing eyes and I noticed she couldn't hold eye contact. Yet claims she is confident, HUH. When the date doesn't end in a kiss, I feel as if I could have done better in my mind. We will see what happens tonight, we doing coffee date.

You poke anything on your vaca? Lots of women?

Don't listen to Vick brahs, home boi in wuuuv and frontin. Good to hear things are going well bruh!

Lol I had like 4 opportunities on the same night...2 were from Nica, but seemed wayyyyy too easy for their own good and I was just thinking STD's, Zika, etc lol...then there was a hot Costa Rican chick but she was requiring too much effort, I should have pounced but got tired. Lastly there was a gorgeous CANADIAN teacher there, who was 30, there to teach english...I treated her platonically but she fell for the gweedomovesbrah and ended up all over me, kissing me and sh!T, then asks me back to her place but says she has a BF back home in Ontario, I stopped it there. I have never been about that life, even though I was horny as hell

ah well...I got some chicks from a work function a few weeks ago who I literally write "lol ok" to to whatever they text me and they just won't leave me alone. I am sure I could pork either of them but not sure I actually feel like it. I miss my Brazilian girl, but not as much as I thought I would. I am used to women coming and going now so it's just a big fluid "whatever" for me!

Not to mention i am slammed busy right now getting my landscaping business going again now that spring is here. Only on here right now enjoying a bella cafe then off to quote jobs all day!

being in love is guuud...I'd say!!

Okay boys, back in town and back to the regularly scheduled advice/life stories/misc programming we've grown accustomed to.

My trip was amazing. Spent a shiit ton of money but met some amazing people, went to 4 different MLB ballparks in 4 days, and just had an amazing time out West. The vibe is just different out there. My sister wants to move to Phoenix now after our visit. The goal of me taking her with me is to show her that there are places outside of our garbage little town and I think she is taking the steps to make a move so for that I am proud of her.

I feel like I am different now that I am back. I feel more carefree, happy and relaxed. Something about the sunlight and the experience overall. I'm ready to get back to business here at home and make this summer and the rest of the year the best I can. After last night, things are off to a really good start.

I went to J's place after her class let out and I had some food with me. She doesn't really have much money so I just think it's a nice thing to do on Mondays. We ate, watched some televison, and started having some talks about our pasts and stuff like that. She REALLY opened up to me, a lot. She was telling me about some different things she has dealt with in the past and I think we made huge progress as far as building a connection. I told her I definitely felt a bond to her that I don't often feel with many girls at all, and this seemed to make her feel good. She's very easy to make laugh so I just focus on that and the rest sort of falls into place.

After those talks we got pretty close. I did the same thing I did last week and picked her up and took her to the bed. This time I made sure to get her off first before I did anything. Afterwards we laid there and just talked for a few hours until it was around midnight and it was time to go. Easter is this Sunday and she has no family here, so I told her I will take her to brunch so that she can enjoy the holiday and have something to look forward to before studying all day.

I've caught the feels hard, however I have a very good feeling about her. She graduates from nursing school in June, likes the same music and it sounds like she hasn't been in many great relationships in the past. I think we are getting to that point and I think I can create something that makes us both tremendously happy.Good morning bro! I gotta stop up for a smoke soon... maybe next weekend? Dude, the sun had a DRAMATIC effect on my mood out West. It was noticeable and not just something my mind was making up. It was indescribable. In SoCal, I felt like a king.I'm the same way, brah. If the date doesn't end in at least a little smooch, I take it as a "not into you at all" sign and go my separate way. I also hate when girls can't hold eye contact with me since I've been told I have the same good eyes as you. Mine are big and really blue, especially in the sun.

I hope your date goes well, man. Make sure to fill us in. My experience with J has been amazing so far. I'm glad I have a group like this to talk about things with and share experiences with. It's awesome.Being in love is an amazing feeling. Hopefully one day I can get back there. The older I get, the more important those sorts of relationships become to me and other things tend not to matter. Getting older is so weird. Seems like you have a lot going on up there man, that's awesome to hear. Good on you for being a grown man about that teacher you met. Big respect (as if I could have any more for you.) How have you been without Brazilian girl around? Any contact? Let me know if you need a hand landscaping brah!

Happy for you Vick! Make it work!

I'm kind of disappointed L1 hasn't contacted me. I want to say "hey" but I left it in her court and I'm pretty sure if she was interested she would have contacted me by now.

I'll do my best. Things with her have been very easy so far.

Can you catch me up on all the ladies you've been seeing? I read bits and pieces over the past few days but I've mostly been MIA.

I don't see it as "not into me" because every woman I meet seems to want to relationship me so they tend to move slow because of this. However, I see it as "I didn't stimulate her enough". I want her to not be able to resist mauling me (perfectionist nature). However, my experience has shown that usually its the non relationship worthy type who kiss on first date.Don't take it so hard. Women, just like men perceive radio silence as the man not being interested either. That blonde I went out with a few weeks ago and the Italian girl who catfished me both drifted away because I didn't text, but I knew 100% I could see them again if I gave it some effort, but I didn't want to see them anymore. The Italian one did at first and then gave up. The blonde is just hot AF and has endless options lol.

All it means is that you still have some work to do. Take her out a few more times, porketta her real good, then tell me she don't msg, HUH

This is my last batch:

Girl 1 - 35YO - Lunch on 3/31. Haven't talked to her since and do not plan on it.
Girl 2 "L1" - 27YO, Dinner 3/31, Lunch 4/4, She asked me to lunch again 4/6, but cancelled due to lack of time and has not contacted me to schedule another date.
Girl 3 "L2" - 34YO, Lunch 4/3, Lunch 4/7, Dinner, and fell asleep in her bed 4/8, She is now in Europe until 4/20. Pretty sure she is into me.
Girl 4 - 27YO, sent me nudes, still in contact, but I have not locked down a date yet.
Girl 5 - 32YO, Got coffee 4/6, I talked my ass off and don't think I made a good impression. She hasn't contacted me. Very nice woman, but I also was not all that attracted to her, though I would go out with her again if she wanted.
Girl 6 - 38YO - Def my type, but flaky as ****. Basically scheduled 2 days to meet up, but she never followed up to set the plans in concrete. Done with her, which is a shame because she seems like she would be a good match based on our conversations and phone calls if she wasn't so undependable.
Girl 7 - 38YO - Last talked to her Wednesday. Said she wanted to meet this week. She was going out of town this weekend and would be busy yesterday and today. I'll probably follow up with her tonight or tomorrow morning.

There's a couple more that I wasn't really interested in that I let die.

How old is J brah? ANd glad you're finally feeling happy about this chick and just life in general.

I'm not taking it hard, just a bit disappointed. I knew going in trying to date a 27yo with no kids is a long shot as it is. I'm actually surprised I was even able to get a first date, let alone a second, and almost a third. I assume she met someone else, and he more aligns with her.

Jesus Christ. Where are they from again? Tinder?J is 25, same age as me. Thanks for your words man. I have a new attitude and think that some sunshine was just what I needed. Hopefully I can carry it through the rest of the year.

Yeep. I've hardly been texting them, though. Just scheduling dates.

Sounds like good strategy 101. Although with Tinder I believe it's best to strike while the iron is hot or they'll just find some sucker who'll give them free eats.

Kinda off topic, but curious about your opinions on this.

In the past two weeks you've dated all of these girls, in order to find the best, most compatible partner. Which is pretty typical in modern dating. Chances are you won't find 1 in this batch, and mill through another 10 over the next couple of months.

How is it, that only a few decades ago, people dated a small handful of people and ended up getting married - and, in my own parents/grandparents cases they stayed together for life and love one another deeply.

- Do we have too many options, where we become hyper selective and never settle?
- Do you see older generations as probably matching with the sub-optimal person, but made it work anyway?

Which model do you overall think is better; I can see the logical level reasoning behind the modern methods - date higher #'s and you'll land on the best one - in theory... right.

My own opinion is that the modern way is overall worse - as humans we see options - we don't care to work on incompatibilities anymore, but rather just move on. Everyone is flawed, no two people will connect perfectly but we are conditioned to think otherwise - and it's easier to just give up and move on.

A balance would be great. And I've proposed my own approach before - date 1 at a time - giving it at least a fighting chance to survive.

I think the modern model works and it isn't close. The problem is we've taken rules from the traditional age and tried to apply them to modern times and that just doesn't work.

This is my typical week as well. Same exact chit. I moved back in with my parents for the time being and live in the middle of nowhere now, so my options basically 100% dried up for online dating now. Kinda glad tbh that I'm not dealing with all the nonsense currently, just would like to have a legit cool GF. fuark

Welcome to the introduction of beta's/WK's, social media and most women entering the workforce boyo. Women simply have too many options, why else? We can all be as mad as we want, but many men are doing the same thing too; smashing the hottest they can find, regardless of leagues.

Vick: the only rule that applies to today which should be transferable from the ol days is being alpha. Its safe to say most men were alpha way back because they were the sole income providers and she would be stupid/homeless to not worship him lol. Give a woman a job and social media and be very scared

The only thing we can do is be the best option brahs. This means stay aesthetic/lift and make bank. This also allows you to be able to somewhat pick and choose in this messed up dating market.

I agree completely. I feel as if many relationships fail because people take traditional timelines and norms and try to apply them to the modern dating climate, which never will work.

The modern dating climate doesn't work. Look at all the women you've milled through without finding a single one to settle with for even a few months. And that isn't pointing the finger at you, it's highlighting a problem.

I just wanna put one of my Tinder conversations here for all the guys experienced with Tinder to let me know you're perspective or to let me know if I fuked up or came on too strong. She didn't seem like she was online that much as she took a whole day to respond when I first initially sent her an opener. I thought she was going to be one of the ones wouldn't reply back but she surprised me when she did.

Me: So do you want me to hit you up with a corny pickup line or can we skip past that?
Her: Multiple laughing emoji
Me: Glad I made you laugh, I'm assuming you don't want a pickup line? Though I think you might be laughing cause you're crazy, are you crazy?
Her: Not crazy, it was your bio that did it actually "ok sign with fingers"
Me: Good and yeah I'm looking for white man privileges, I wanna be an Uncle Tom..... Hell I might change my skin like Michael Jackson...... It says you're looking for a gym buddy, I can teach you if you want me to

No reply in 22 hours so I'm assuming I did fuk up or she was never interested. What I don't understand is she said not looking for hookups or fwb. What multiple people have said was when a girl says that, most of the time, it's the opposite. She doesn't wanna appear easy or she just says that as a deterrent to keep thirsty clowns away that say "dtf" for the first opener. So I thought I had this in the bag and I could flirt with her but it apparently didn't work. Also people have said that you gotta be aggressive and flirting with chicks on Tinder to show your interest and what you want. This is one of many chicks that just randomly stop replying no matter how good the conversation seems to be and no matter what I do. And I do try to have a decent conversation with them and then try to quickly go for the number. I don't think it's my game as I think it seems decent enough to have had women catch feelings before. Tell me what you guys think.

Edit: She said she was looking for someone to teach her how to lift, just to clarify.

Think about it. The top 20% of men have always done it this way. It's everyone else that settled because they had no options. The past = ignorance. It was more than sheer values that kept our grandparents together. That ignorance is now gone, but our parents generation and our generation paid the price. Vick is right. We didn't adapt fast enough and this shows by the high divorce rates. The divorce rates are now going down because people are realizing they need to take longer to choose the right one.

date 1 at a time ---- date multiples temporarily ---- date multiples indefinitely.

My balance is this ^^^^: I will talk to as many women and date as many women as I can handle, but once I find one I want to commit to, then I am all hers and only hers.

You don't have to date one person at a time up until the point you are committed to that person. How can you know if she is the best option if she is your only option?Not sure it would change anything, but here's my comments:

I think it was fine until you said the Michael Jackson thing. I think that might have played it out too far.

At that point I would have left it at that and waited for her to respond and save the gym buddy for later after you already had her hooked. How many guys do you think have said that to her? Probably every one of them. Your goal is to separate yourself from the others, which it looks like you did initially, but then started to lose her.

FWB/no hookups - It's not that it's the opposite, it's that if she is into you, she will probably do it away, so disregard.

The few times a match has gone MIA for a couple of days I've dropped, "I've filed a missing persons report and notified search and rescue. Give me some sign you are still alive and we will find you! :P"

It's worked every time so far.


Update:

L1 - Broke down and texted her. She confirmed she has also been talking to another guy and wants to peruse him.

L2 - Txted me from London this afternoon and sent me pics. She's def into me.

Girl 7 - Msged, no response yet.

Oh really? I thought it would make her laugh, that's why I put it there. I know it would have made other people laugh irl.

Respect back at you brother in the highest regard!

My Brazilian bella has texted me, saying she is not happy back home, but she will be "fine"...she says that her friends say her eyes "twinkle" when she talks about me. And she kind of got upset that I haven't been texting her often but I told her if she is going to live in another country I don't want to be texting back and forth giving false hope, etc. I do miss her, but at the same time if she came back she wants to go to school and she'll be 35 before she can earn any decent money. Love is important but I am making moves, buying properties, working hard on the side, etc and I would kind of want a woman who has some sort of financial savings, then again most young women I know have zero money or zero money sense to begin with

I'm slammed with side work man, and next coming weekend I work friday and sunday for the whole 24hr period of each day. I am going to be swamped lately man. Best thing you can do is if you are coming for a Jays game or whatnot, let me know and I will MAKE time brother

peace and love gents!

What was she referencing in your bio. I am reading it out of context, but you lost me after uncle tom.