did not read options but if I made 180k I would not worry about it because I would be retired by 40.

lol u cant retire with that money if u earn that in big city..u lose most of it in taxes and house rent and other expenses.

and big companies dont operate in small cities

its a trap son

As a manager, any kind, corporate, project, engineering, etc

You need to be the first in, and last out the door. If graduates are doing 8-6, you need to be doing 7-7

If you need to come in on weekends, you do what needs to be done.

Your child will go to the best private school, eat the most nutritious meals, have his own bedroom and be driven to school in a 2017 Audi A5

i would replace it with another cog, why?
EDIT: Also just lol at all the commerce cucks in this thread (this is from someone that holds a commerce degree at a top university).

No you won't earn 150k with 15 years of experience with or without an MBA in any role, the truth is you wont ever have the talent to score a 200k-300k salaried role which isonly offered to a small minority of very talented individuals.

LOL sounds like your salty about sitting outside of that small minority. its okay brah - chin up.

I actually like the travel, but I feel that. If I wasn't going into consulting I would probably do sales and trading, but I understand doing M&A if you like deals more than you like markets. The buy side is obviously good work if you can get it, but it's about the most competitive field out there. Would you work for a VC firm or just try tobea VC with your own money?

can you actually blacklist people? because thats a scary thought if so..

80 hours of work bro.... that too with a family? fuq dat

rather sell my A5, downsize house, invest my savings into a ghetto restaurant and spend more time with wife and kids

What a riveting novel about absolute nothing

What would you say?

Picture the following situation Misc:

- You're 35 years old
- Been with Deloitte for 12 years since you graduated @ 23
- You started managing your own team 5 years in and have 7 years experience
- You have a 3-bedroom house with 10 years left on mortgage, drive an Audi A5 and have a wife/child
- You have never travelled because you jumped from university to graduate job (60 hours) to management (80 hours)
- You make $140,000/year with an annual bonus of $40,000


A graduate in your team who went through the university experience from 18/19 to 22/23 doing a 3 year Bachelors and 1.5 year Masters in Economics now has 1 year experience in your team aged 24. One day he approaches you out of the blue in private and says he wants to travel the world. You knew that he spent his annual leave doing hikes around the state that you live in but he wants 6-9 months off to do Everest Base Camp, Machu Pichu, Kilimanjaro, Mount Blanc, Mount Fuji, Annapurna Circuit, 7K Volcano in Ecuador, sit at the edge of Grand Canyon, etc.

When you ask him why didn't he do it before starting the job, he replies that he wanted to get some experience on his CV. So when you follow up question why right now, he says he wants to do it before turning 26, and aged 25 when he's young, has energy, desire and before he commits to marriage/mortgage/it becomes too late in general. He says that he will be back after a maximum of 9 months and continue the job from where he left off. You pay him $50,000/year starting fresh out of college and he gets a $10,000+/year annual salary rise if he sticks to the job, just like you did.


Do you:


Option 1- Replace him in a day for one of the 5000 other cogs waiting at the door who will literally do what you say, when you say it, how you want it, however many hours you want, and not ask for any time out? This is, after all, the corporate world and you are in charge for the day to day running of the division and need committed members and this will play on the back of his mind and he will grow to despise you and hate working for you.


Option 2- Respect the honesty, respect the fact that he had the balls to approach you face to face, man to man, admire the fact that travelling and hiking is quite a big ambition in his life and allow him the time off, unpaid ofcourse, but restart him with the new graduate intakes and take him under your wing to train him up and nurture him into a future manager with the new found life experience.


Option 3- Say no, and if he leaves anyway, speak to your contacts at all of the other Big 4 firms like PwC, KPMG, EY, and other corporate firms who he may apply to when he gets back to get him black-listed for walking out to do what in your eyes is a "free spirited hippy thing" despite having an opportunity that most graduates would give an arm and a leg for.



Which options would you choose Misc? And why?

Just how fukin low on the totem pole are you? Y2-Y3 Manager?

Who the fuk cares about some graduate and even worse, who the fuk "may need the help" of a graduate!?

i would replace it with another cog, why?

because that other cog is willing to work without taking a break. That cog is willing to give up good things such as travel to pursue career development. A person that is willing to give that up is more deserving of the position.



EDIT: Also just lol at all the commerce cucks in this thread (this is from someone that holds a commerce degree at a top university).

No you won't earn 150k with 15 years of experience with or without an MBA in any role, the truth is you wont ever have the talent to score a 200k-300k salaried role which is only offered to a small minority of very talented individuals.

You are a CUCK nothing more, nothing less. You will die as one of those "stick in the mud type" greying and balding dudes that has plateaued at a mid management level and has been around the company since forever. Do not have hopes and dreams because I guarantee you it is already dead.

Some of the salary expectations for the low hours that the younger miscers are deluded about are quite funny

Reality will hit them hard, but I wish them all the best regardless

Why don't these people take 1 or 2 vacations a year instead of wandering around for 9 whole months?

Why don't these people take 1 or 2 vacations a year instead of wandering around for 9 whole months?

Honestly getting high exposure in a condensed period like that you'll probably forget 80% of the details because you're constantly doing something new.


I suppose I would tell him to take normal vacations like everyone else or find a new position. Sorry but there is apparently hundreds of others willing to work like dogs and if he wants to go AWOL for a year then he clearly doesn't want it that bad *shrug*. Wouldn't black list him though, that is dumb