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post 1491382551 04-17-2017, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
Bicycle blue book seems kinda of bs.
That's because it is, I'm unsure how it collects data but it's so far off its not even funny. eBay is gonna be your best bet friend. Filter listings to recently sold and that'll give you an idea how much your bike is worth.

You can do with this with Craigslist too but you gotta use Google when you look up results
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Originally Posted By John4789⏩
Another successful longer ride with my broski this weekend. There was a road race on which we tried to follow but we soon got dropped! Found out later on that the average speed was 25.7mph over 2 and a bit hours!

Did about 2-3miles to the start point as well so this is closer to 38-39mi



We had fun anyway but I'm reaching the limits of my Wiggle basics bib shorts, getting chafing and suchlike from the seams and generally the way the pad moves about and chit. So it looks like the next bike purchase will be some higher end bib shorts.
Once you get some nice bibs with a good chamois you will never go back!!!!! Bibs can make or break cycling for most people.



Here's some photos from a weekend of on and offroad exploring.







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Originally Posted By l00t3d⏩
That's because it is, I'm unsure how it collects data but it's so far off its not even funny. eBay is gonna be your best bet friend. Filter listings to recently sold and that'll give you an idea how much your bike is worth.

You can do with this with Craigslist too but you gotta use Google when you look up results
Seems like i might of missed my mark on my first sell by $50-100. Although, it does seem like the range between $100-150 is what most people are willing to drop money on without much thought.
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Originally Posted By ChaseW⏩
Once you get some nice bibs with a good chamois you will never go back!!!!! Bibs can make or break cycling for most people.



Here's some photos from a weekend of on and offroad exploring.
At first I was thinking that was Virginia. There is some amazing hiking/biking stuff in Virginia.

http://blog.virginia.org/2015/11/bicycle/

I hiked a part of this while on the AT and saw quite a few bicyclists. Beautiful and relaxing trail...

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I found this very interesting. The degree to which the wheel was shaking the entire bike seems like more than a substantial change to me. Thoughts for those of you with carbon wheels? (likely an issue with all wheels but obviously more pronounced with carbon given the low weights)



Also I went to my local bike store and they told me that shimano doesn't sell quick links and that only sram does? Pretty sure that isn't accurate. Could someone clarify this for me assuming you know?


Also I'm looking at investing in a ultrasonic cleaner, a quick link, and all the tools required to remove my drive train. I'm dying to give my bike a full on clean because of the amount of road grit in my area. Could someone please please give me a list of all the tools I'll need =D? Many many thanks.




also a couple images from recent rides:







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Nice pics chase, bike is looking gorgeous
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
It was too easy.Only for us enthusiast and pro types. To relate, access your cycling.
Are they immune or sumtin?A combination of anatomy, weight, climate, and time in the saddle. Fortunately, I've never have any lasting saddle related issue. Then again, I know my limit (4 hours). Even less if the road gets bumpy. I figure that has a lot to do with it.
Never really had an issue or anyone I ride with. Buy a good saddle, fit it right should be good.

Mtb is different though downhill you're out of saddle 90% of the time.

Plus full suspension helps a ton.
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Originally Posted By Num3n⏩
Also I went to my local bike store and they told me that shimano doesn't sell quick links and that only sram does? Pretty sure that isn't accurate. Could someone clarify this for me assuming you know?


Also I'm looking at investing in a ultrasonic cleaner, a quick link, and all the tools required to remove my drive train. I'm dying to give my bike a full on clean because of the amount of road grit in my area. Could someone please please give me a list of all the tools I'll need =D? Many many thanks.
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The bike shop is correct. Shimano chains come with a breaker pin.

But you can buy a KMC link for like $3. Everyone should carry an extra link anyway. They save your ass

You should be buying a wippermann chain anyway.

Drive train pretty simple.

Cassette lock ring tool
Chain whip
Bottom bracket tool external or internal what ever you have.
Some Allen tools and boom off
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Bike pron of the day. From Google images.

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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
The bike shop is correct. Shimano chains come with a breaker pin.

But you can buy a KMC link for like $3. Everyone should carry an extra link anyway. They save your ass

You should be buying a wippermann chain anyway.

Drive train pretty simple.

Cassette lock ring tool
Chain whip
Bottom bracket tool external or internal what ever you have.
Some Allen tools and boom off
^Agreed. I use SRAM with my Ultegra chain - one use only. I replace it once a month when I fully degrease the chain in the ultrasonic bath.

Note however that Shimano has introduced its own quick link:

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/shi...-chains/019159


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Bros, should I buy Shimano Ultegra 6800 pedals or Dura Ace 9100s? The ultegras are a steal right now. 95 bucks. I think because the new ultegra line is coming out any day.

The Dura Aces are 180 but they are hngggg.
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And about the wheel balancing. I think it's a really good idea. It'll create more efficiency and a better ride. I don't know why it's not more popular or talked about more.

You'll have to rebalance anytime you change a tube or tire but as seen in the video it doesn't take much time and you can do it at home. I don't know if they make balancing machines like they do for cars and motorcycles because that'd be more accurate but the home method seems real effective.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
And about the wheel balancing. I think it's a really good idea. It'll create more efficiency and a better ride. I don't know why it's not more popular or talked about more.
+1 to the balancing. Great video too. Only thing that sucks is it doesn't look like (from the video) there is any real aftermarket parts sold specifically for counterbalancing.

The video does remind me of how valuable a good bicycle mechanic is. Before i started my Great Divide ride i took my rear wheel in multiple times, even at the start in Jasper Alberta, because it was causing issues. About 2000 miles later near Salida Colorado i noticed obvious rubbing against the frame. Once we got to Salida there was this really nice bike shop in town that i had take a look. The guy called me to the back and showed me some significant rubbing on the frame. Then, he showed me that the wheel itself was true and that the tire was out of balance. From that i learned a few things:

- I have a lot to learn about bikes
- Just like any field/occupation ... only 10-20% really know their stuff.

4 or 5 different guys looked at my bike and only one solved the problem. Pretty much the same thing i realized in my various corporate jobs.
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Originally Posted By SkepticalOne⏩
^Agreed. I use SRAM with my Ultegra chain - one use only. I replace it once a month when I fully degrease the chain in the ultrasonic bath.

Note however that Shimano has introduced its own quick link:

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/shi...-chains/019159


I use the KMC link. They say one use only but I re-use them per LBS recommendation without issue. I only use a new link when I replace the chain as the pins wear in accordance with the rest of the chain.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Bros, should I buy Shimano Ultegra 6800 pedals or Dura Ace 9100s? The ultegras are a steal right now. 95 bucks. I think because the new ultegra line is coming out any day.

The Dura Aces are 180 but they are hngggg.
$100 is about the going rate on Ultegra pedals. They use the same mechanism, but the DAs are 12 grams lighter per pair and I think (don't quote me) come packaged with lower float cleats. Not worth the extra money IMO.
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Originally Posted By mayweathermusic⏩
$100 is about the going rate on Ultegra pedals. They use the same mechanism, but the DAs are 12 grams lighter per pair and I think (don't quote me) come packaged with lower float cleats. Not worth the extra money IMO.
Ultegras are phenomenal. I couldn't justify spending more to save such measly weight.
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Originally Posted By mayweathermusic⏩
I use the KMC link. They say one use only but I re-use them per LBS recommendation without issue. I only use a new link when I replace the chain as the pins wear in accordance with the rest of the chain.
I've debated re-using but have doubts about the risk...once you've deformed the link the first time, it loses much of its locking performance.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
+1 to the balancing. Great video too. Only thing that sucks is it doesn't look like (from the video) there is any real aftermarket parts sold specifically for counterbalancing.

The video does remind me of how valuable a good bicycle mechanic is. Before i started my Great Divide ride i took my rear wheel in multiple times, even at the start in Jasper Alberta, because it was causing issues. About 2000 miles later near Salida Colorado i noticed obvious rubbing against the frame. Once we got to Salida there was this really nice bike shop in town that i had take a look. The guy called me to the back and showed me some significant rubbing on the frame. Then, he showed me that the wheel itself was true and that the tire was out of balance. From that i learned a few things:

- I have a lot to learn about bikes
- Just like any field/occupation ... only 10-20% really know their stuff.

4 or 5 different guys looked at my bike and only one solved the problem. Pretty much the same thing i realized in my various corporate jobs.
You don't really need specific tools.

Alum rim is welded/pinned opposite side is the valve. The weld/valve equal out for the most part.

On fiber rims there is no pin/weld. We're talking like 4-5grams here. You just need a couple peaces of tape. Some people tape magnets. Seen taped alum flashing you don't need much.

Silica has something you can buy for like $35. But you can do the same thing for .50C

Silica speed balance.
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Originally Posted By SkepticalOne⏩
I've debated re-using but have doubts about the risk...once you've deformed the link the first time, it loses much of its locking performance.
I certainly don't blame you for being cautious. Do you use pliers to remove them? I take them off by hand and don't find them to be deformed.
Originally Posted By SkepticalOne⏩
Ultegras are phenomenal. I couldn't justify spending more to save such measly weight.
Agreed. The whole groupo is pretty great.
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Holy chit.

I just pre-mapped a beautiful 30 mile/4k elevation singletrack ride for this weekend coming up. Originally was going to do a road ride but the weather by my favorite mountain bike trails will be literally perfect next weekend. Fukin HNNNNNG. This'll be my first time on this mountain with the new MTB. My first ride up there since oct.

I'm giddy. Can't wait.
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Originally Posted By mayweathermusic⏩
I certainly don't blame you for being cautious. Do you use pliers to remove them? I take them off by hand and don't find them to be deformed.
The deformation is 'by design'. Retention is due to the plastic deformation of the thin web of metal which serves to clench the joint tight. It is independent of the tool used. So when I say deformation, I am referring to the interference-fit - this is why it is designed to truly be a one-time-use. Not to say it can't be effectively re-used, just with less assurance.

I use these:

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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
+1 to the balancing. Great video too. Only thing that sucks is it doesn't look like (from the video) there is any real aftermarket parts sold specifically for counterbalancing.

The video does remind me of how valuable a good bicycle mechanic is. Before i started my Great Divide ride i took my rear wheel in multiple times, even at the start in Jasper Alberta, because it was causing issues. About 2000 miles later near Salida Colorado i noticed obvious rubbing against the frame. Once we got to Salida there was this really nice bike shop in town that i had take a look. The guy called me to the back and showed me some significant rubbing on the frame. Then, he showed me that the wheel itself was true and that the tire was out of balance. From that i learned a few things:

- I have a lot to learn about bikes
- Just like any field/occupation ... only 10-20% really know their stuff.

4 or 5 different guys looked at my bike and only one solved the problem. Pretty much the same thing i realized in my various corporate jobs.
You can, but you don't have to -- unless you live in the undiscovered country? I'm from thelet the mechanic fix it campsince I've never been very mechanical like that. But I recognize its a choice, and some guys enjoy working on their bikes.
Originally Posted By mayweathermusic⏩
$100 is about the going rate on Ultegra pedals. They use the same mechanism, but the DAs are 12 grams lighter per pair and I think (don't quote me) come packaged with lower float cleats. Not worth the extra money IMO.
True for most things. But you can't really put a price on esthetics, can you?
Originally Posted By SkepticalOne⏩
Ultegras are phenomenal. I couldn't justify spending more to save such measly weight.
The law of diminishing return. The difference from the top tier is usually only one or two obscure features, but the price goes up exponentially for that which is why they use esthetics to distinguish the two. Still, I have to admit having paid extra just for the "paint job", which has absolutely zero impact on the product's performance.
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
Still, I have to admit having paid extra just for the paint job which has absolutely zero impact on the products performance.
I can't fault you for holding aesthetics in high regard...The better you feel when you look at it, the more often you'll want to ride it. Paint/aesthetics is one of the first considerations I recommend after fit and comfort. Most other aspects (grouppo) have all exceeded the 'good enough' threshold.

Like in car ownership, so much of cycling comes down to emotional gratification.
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
You can, but you don't have to -- unless you live in the undiscovered country? I'm from thelet the mechanic fix it campsince I've never been very mechanical like that. But I recognize its a choice, and some guys enjoy working on their bikes. True for most things. But you can't really put a price on esthetics, can you?The law of diminishing return. The difference from the top tier is usually only one or two obscure features, but the price goes up exponentially for that which is why they use esthetics to distinguish the two. Still, I have to admit having paid extra just for the "paint job", which has absolutely zero impact on the product's performance.
So much cheaper to do your own work. LBS are a rip off. I've custom built every bike I've had for past 15 years. Prob save 3-4grand just in work
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Originally Posted By mayweathermusic⏩
$100 is about the going rate on Ultegra pedals. They use the same mechanism, but the DAs are 12 grams lighter per pair and I think (don't quote me) come packaged with lower float cleats. Not worth the extra money IMO.
Yea I think 2 degree float cleats while the ultegras has 6 degrees. And the dura aces have 3 bearings where the ultegra has two.
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the delivery company phoned me today to schedule a delivery of my new bike. shet probably requires a lift gate and a pallet jack. its destined to be in my hands in 2 days. thanks for reading.


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SOOOOO DAMN CLOSE TO 10k! I'd like to get it before the big ride in may, only ~500 feet away!


Spoiler!



Regardless, it was BEAUTIFUL out today!





Probably stupid of me to even mention this... but oddly enough, I have these MONSTER energy surges aftereating oranges..It sounds so stupid, usually every pre training meal is the same (.5 box of cereal, with 4-5 waffles and peanut butter with bananas/apples) but for WHATEVER silly reason, whenever I throw in an orange, it feels like energy is never ending...

Anyone ever feel anything similar?
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Originally Posted By ErikTheElectric⏩
ORANGES.

Anyone ever feel anything similar?
Yes for me it's oatmeal with a bit of maple syrup.

But you can bet I'm buying oranges next time I'm at the store. Srs.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yes for me it's oatmeal with a bit of maple syrup.

But you can bet I'm buying oranges next time I'm at the store. Srs.
Lol usually have 2 cups in the morning as well.
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Originally Posted By Num3n⏩
question about exploring new bike routes. I have a bit of trepidation when it comes to going off my known beaten path. I want to ride out to this large local mountain (HC climb) but I have no idea how to get there. I suppose I can just use my phone GPS and periodically check it when I venture onto unknown roads. That being said it feels a little nerve wracking. Or maybe I'm just being a baby. The irony being I have done 12 hour+ long solo hikes in the wilderness and felt mostly fine. Das it mayne. Any advice, tips etc?
Which mountain is this?
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