You were right boyos! Update: went over to girl's house I'm seeing last night (meeting #5). We made dinner together and went for a nice scenic walk. Alot of smooching and groping going on just prior to dinner, I figured last night was the night. Throw on Chappelle's new netflix episode after dinner and 10min later the door bell rings. Its her ex lol! She talks with him outside the door for a few min and then he opens the door a bit aggressively and forces his way into the house. I spring up off the couch and get in his face thinking he wants to beef me but then he pipes down instantly when he see's me and focuses his attention on her and turns his back to me lol. On our first date she told me she hasn't spoken to him since breaking up 8 months ago, going as far as saying how he hasn't even reached out to her. He confirmed she saw him 3 weeks ago and how he's been texting her as of late and how she's been ignoring him for the most part (i've known her for 2 weeks). She mentions infront of him how she hates him, doesn't want to see him, etc. So then her ex goes on to say that 3 weeks ago she told him/did something but either of them did not want to say what it was to me (obviously game changer right). I asked for either of them to speak up a few times, they refused so I left. Then came the typical calling me balling her eyes out. Good thing the ex showed up, he legit saved me from the lies. Technically she can do what she wants, but its the extensive lying that has me off put, no longer able to trust her (yet boosted trusted is everything, so important, etc W-O-W) and its obviously clear she still has feelings for ex given they are in touch. Who am I to say though, I'm doing the same thing and I certainly have no regrets now. Now deciding if I want to just keep her around to smash as she's been removed from relationship contention.

You're right pondus, these logs are bad luck lol

Well I got another date scheduled for drinks on Saturday with a 24 year old (last one was 22 years old). Wish me luck.

Haven't had that happened to me yet.

Onto the next. Don't even give her the satisfaction of your continued attention even if it's just to use her for sex.

I don't like being right about that kind of stuff, but something about what you described was so familiar, so I had to point it out.

Dopamine.

Many women (in my experience) are doing the online dating thing to boost their super low self-esteem. Looking back at the god knows how many dates I've been on, a common trend among online vs real life is that the online ones are super arrogant (read: low self-esteem) or straight up insecure as fuark. When they hand out their number, etc, they're telling themselves that they have yet another guy interested in them and it gives them that extremely temporary rush of satisfaction before they go back to hating themselves.

It's the same thing with instagram over-posters and social media whores. "I look fat today" (post a filtered selfie) "OMG, YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL, PLS MESSAGE ME BACK" and now they have their little dopamine rush. Hand out the number and see you text, it's like mental masterbation.Lmao. I thought I landed some ****ty women.

But, but, but she said she would "change my life" with the shucky

yup, its like cutting yourself to feel good. wtf man. mental as phuck

Eh, addiction and self-validation have always been there, it's just the way of using it has changed. Instead of having to go out and get drugs to make yourself feel better, you can just post a selfie on instagram and have hundreds (or thousands) of thirsty dudes begging you for anything/everything. Or you can load up tinder, get 100 matches in less than a day and spend the time you'd normally spend sad (or trying to figure WHY you're sad) getting/giving numbers and then ignoring them so you know they want you.

So many things in life can get chalked up to low self-esteem. Half this forum is a case study on that crap.

I know the hotter women hitting their mid-40's and going down hill do this.
but the average non-overweight women with degree's and careers?

fuark.
Didn't realize it had gotten this bad.

You all need to move closer to CA in the bay area. So many decent women, that are actually good looking and are serious about dating and not just looking for attention.

wat in dafuqqqqq?????

i swear people are so retarded and weird these days!

Ho lee fuk

Good you dodged a bullet sooner rather than later.

The ones that aren't stuck up, superficial and have a valley accent? I dislike minimum 95% of girls in the bay area. And the 5% are ones that are from out of state.

Loved, loved, loved my vacation. I needed it as my stress level was maxed out.

Saw my ex guy in Key West age 30. I had him blocked for 2 months but stupidly unblocked him.

He got a new girlfriend but the loser didn't tell me, he just got all weird with his responses and said I should come out in November and I was like WTF that's so far away. Then he called me 19 times at 1am my time and said he missed me, and then got super pissy with me. If he just told me he had a new girl then none of this drama would have happened, I would have re-blocked him and moved on.

He used to brag how he would steal girls from their boyfriends and sleep with married women while their husbands went sailing. She was living with this hot Italian guy and they started working together, so he got her to leave him.

He saw me at a restaurant and flipped, started yelling at me to get away from him in front of her while I was walking to the ladies room. He acted crazy and looked stupid. Nice way to treat a paying customer.

Interesting twist though that I ended up meeting her ex-boyfriend and he seems like a much better match: stable job as a plumber, owns a boat and trailer.

The Italian guy says he wants to hurt my ex for stealing his girl. Also met a bunch of guys from Arkansas working on a big project on Duck Key. They were hilarious. I teased the foreman about Bill Clinton so every time he walked by me he said "I didn't inhale". Then once I mentioned how many men here are gay/bi/into transsexuals they completely lost it and made all kinds of jokes. One asked me to go back to their hotel room but no thanks Jeff.

Anyhow it was surprising to get male attention when I'm not in my best shape physically.

Why do men always want to beat up the other man when it's his ex-gf who monkey-branched him? Italian Guy had no anger towards her (that he expressed to me). Seems that outside of the Misc that women get away with monkey-branching non-stop.Not stuck up, superficial, nor have a valley accent lol.

Luc1fer you could find a MUCH better woman here than that unstable woman. I briefly saw your thread when I was in Florida. I get young guys asking me for money all of the time. I refuse, and some have walked due to that. I just refuse to support a freeloader. This woman can get a 2nd job or do something to get herself out of debt.

She also is extremely manipulative and is going to leave you in debt if you're not careful.

I can't imagine asking someone I'm dating for money. First of all I've never asked for a friend or family member to loan me money, but if I did I would go to family before someone I was DATING! That's just insane to me to do that and I'm embarrassed for the people who do that.

I was very taken back and surprised by all this as she legit interrogated me before we even met to ensure I wanted relationship, looks to see me often, mentioned only dating 1 person at a time, always texts first, etc. Specifically mentioned "when i'm done with someone, i'm done and he hasn't tried to contact me since we broke up 8 months ago". The girl revealed no red flags so she can be perceived as a good match for me.

You are in the city though right? Maybe I should have specified north bay.Just like I said, some women are masters of telling you exactly what you need to hear. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

That's the exact feeling I started to get with Fabi right before she broke it off with me.

Update:

L2 - She hasn't really been engaging since she's been back from Europe. A coupe exchanges, but it feels like she's not all that interested. I haven't asked her out again because of that.

Went on a lunch date yesterday with a woman that msged me last week on tinder. It was nice, good conversation. Nothing special. She did not text after, which hardly ever happens, so I supposed she wasn't feeling it. I went ahead and sent her a text last night just thanking her for meeting up and letting her know I enjoyed talking to her. She just said. "Thanks. You too." So lack of interest confirmed.

What I find interesting is that she was totally average looking, I wasn't all that attracted to her. Nothing special at all, fairly boring lifestyle. Yet she is not interested. Over the past year I'm finding it that average women are not that interested in me at all. Only the hotter more extroverted women are. It makes no sense to me why I have more success with women I consider are way better looking and more outgoing than me

Nothing else is in the works, ATM.

This 100%.

No chit eh!

I know you are used to them messaging you like crazy after the date but some also want to know if you are interested in them. As long as she replies and goes on dates, I push if I am interested. Not many women are enthusiastic texters. I guess you just dismiss these ones lol. I don't blame you either, nothing worse then steady carrying the convo.

Glad to see there is success in this thread. BlackScorpio91 I believe in you.

If a woman does not show interest, I lose interest pretty quickly. I can't maintain my interest w/out their's.

I'll put out feelers, but that's about it. I never chase.

This.
I show my interest by asking them on dates and trying to sleep with them.

After they hit me up.

IME, some are interested and still don't say much, but then open up more after a couple dates.

I asked out MissChill the second girl I have asked out in my life. One was at her place making food and the other was on this site. She did not respond with a yes or no.


Progress is progress

Update: Pretty much only seeing the 36 year old now (not exclusive yet, but see each other ~2 times a week). I went on a few dates with another girl (3) and was planning on grabbing lunch with another one as well, but I had to tell both of those other two I was seeing someone else, even though they were both pursuing me as well. The two other girls are younger (27,28) and I would say more attractive, the I really really vibe with the 36 year old and have more sexual chemistry with her.


Chit, I can't believe how much has changed in the past 4 weeks, just because I decided to change my pics on my online dating profile.

And then there was hope. What did you change about your pics again? Idr.

Any chance we can see the pic changes? Let me guess: smiling, social, dog.

If it's just his pics, then he should be having success in real life...

yeah, I don't understand this. I still don't have success in real life, none at all.

I'm not going to think about it, and just enjoy the ride

Dude answer my question, what did you change about your pictures? You mentioned it before but I'm not going back pages just to look it up.