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Looks like Cristiano Ronaldo might just end up being the top 2 greatest ever
05-03-2017, 02:57 PM
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ronaldo dominated 2 freakin leagues with champions league titles, 2 of the the top leagues in the world, he dominated epl which has a fkin grueling schedule. until i see messi do this, for me it is ronaldo.
05-03-2017, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah⏩
Are you talking goals? He averaged 13 a season in 6 seasons there.. as a Winger.Statistically Ronaldo only had one good season in the EPL
05-03-2017, 02:58 PM
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anyone who's played football at a decent level and isn't biased will tell you Messi is by far the better player, I can't even believe people still bring up the comparison unless they're trying to create a useless discussion between biased fans
I mean it's 2017 we've seen both of them play for well over a decade now
cr7's turned into an impressive goal scoring machine though, his stats remain insane
I mean it's 2017 we've seen both of them play for well over a decade now
cr7's turned into an impressive goal scoring machine though, his stats remain insane
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Originally Posted By tehgosu⏩
And what is messi? Lol. They both have fckin dribbling skills you doofus. Different positions and roles. End of the day. Ronaldo is more complete.anyone who's played football at a decent level and isn't biased will tell you Messi is by far the better player, I can't even believe people still bring up the comparison unless they're trying to create a useless discussion between biased fans
I mean it's 2017 we've seen both of them play for well over a decade now
cr7's turned into an impressive goal scoring machine though, his stats remain insane
I mean it's 2017 we've seen both of them play for well over a decade now
cr7's turned into an impressive goal scoring machine though, his stats remain insane
05-03-2017, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By R3nmazuo⏩
All this time I thought Paolo Maldini was one of the greatest defenders of all time.ronaldo dominated 2 freakin leagues with champions league titles, 2 of the the top leagues in the world, he dominated epl which has a fkin grueling schedule. until i see messi do this, for me it is ronaldo.
Turns out he was dog chit all along. You can't be a great player if you're loyal to one club your whole career.
05-03-2017, 03:11 PM
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There's definitely some weird phenomenon with football fans. Certain players get massive amounts of respect for playing for one team their whole career. Players like Totti, Scholes, Maldini get their nuts sucked dry for being loyal. But they'll criticise Messi all day long for sticking with Barca.
05-03-2017, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Cause Barca be stacked homie, but I understand what you mean can't blame Messi for developing thereThere's definitely some weird phenomenon with football fans. Certain players get massive amounts of respect for playing for one team their whole career. Players like Totti, Scholes, Maldini get their nuts sucked dry for being loyal. But they'll criticise Messi all day long for sticking with Barca.
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Originally Posted By TommyRO⏩
I thought that at first but look at the players Maldini played with.Cause Barca be stacked homie, but I understand what you mean can't blame Messi for developing there
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Lmao used to run with those A.C. Milan teams back in FiFaI thought that at first but look at the players Maldini played with.
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05-03-2017, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Might be because Roma sucked cawk, Scholes was part of a Man United team that rebuilt twice, and Maldini idk didn't get to see him play as much. Messi has had the privilege of playing alongside the best Barca players ever, midfield GOATs Xavi and Iniesta, and two bad motherfukers in in Neymar and Suarez.There's definitely some weird phenomenon with football fans. Certain players get massive amounts of respect for playing for one team their whole career. Players like Totti, Scholes, Maldini get their nuts sucked dry for being loyal. But they'll criticise Messi all day long for sticking with Barca.
Nobody would give him shiet about staying in Barca, but Argentina is also stacked with talent and he doesn't perform quite as well there. Ronaldo on the other hand won the Euro's with a bunch of over the hill players.
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05-03-2017, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By mandarino⏩
On a week to week basis? For a whole season? I doubt it.Who the hell ever said Ronaldo hasnt dominated? Are you retarded brah?
Comparing a manager to a player...
Messi would crush PL teams.We will never find out, we should just take the CL spankings as evidence enough.
Comparing a manager to a player...
Messi would crush PL teams.We will never find out, we should just take the CL spankings as evidence enough.
As others have already said, the gruelling EPL sched combined with the fact that you actually have to worry about 6-8 other teams rather than 1 or two would make a huge difference. Not to mention the more physical english game and the lack of outright "superteams" like you have with Barca.
Messi's a generational talent but it's hard to respect him until he takes up another challenge.
I prob respect Ibra more than anyone else for that very reason.
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Didn't realize people even questioned Ronaldo vs Messi lmao. GOATnaldo by a million
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Messi took growth hormones lol
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Lolwut? Week in week out he would dominate. You really think a team tailored to suit his strengths woudnt see him dominate? Doesnt even have to be a super team. Drop ronaldo into a PL team and he would do the same. Super teams have nothing to do with it. You could argue Ronaldo played in a super team at United with his only contention being a Arsenal on the decline and a Chelsea here and there.On a week to week basis? For a whole season? I doubt it.
As others have already said, the gruelling EPL sched combined with the fact that you actually have to worry about 6-8 other teams rather than 1 or two would make a huge difference. Not to mention the more physical english game and the lack of outright "superteams" like you have with Barca.
Messi's a generational talent but it's hard to respect him until he takes up another challenge.
I prob respect Ibra more than anyone else for that very reason.
As others have already said, the gruelling EPL sched combined with the fact that you actually have to worry about 6-8 other teams rather than 1 or two would make a huge difference. Not to mention the more physical english game and the lack of outright "superteams" like you have with Barca.
Messi's a generational talent but it's hard to respect him until he takes up another challenge.
I prob respect Ibra more than anyone else for that very reason.
The south americans that hack at his legs in the copa are proof enough that he can cope i would say.
You guys all look at stats and player stature and **** like that while comparing players and teams, but you cant do that in a sport like this, thats shy we all argue about who the best is. Isco for example would be a starter last year for Barca, While Busquets would still be a ballboy for Real lmao
05-04-2017, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie⏩
messi cucks ronaldo every time they come up against each otherAnd what is messi? Lol. They both have fckin dribbling skills you doofus. Different positions and roles. End of the day. Ronaldo is more complete.
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05-04-2017, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie⏩
You just exposed yourself as a Ronaldo fanboy. Yeah they both have dribbling skills but only 1 beats defenders with ease, even Maradona couldn't consistently do what Messi does. Ronaldo struggles to get past even one defender. Messi beats 4-5 defenders and then scores a goal. You just can't compare him to Messi.And what is messi? Lol. They both have fckin dribbling skills you doofus. Different positions and roles. End of the day. Ronaldo is more complete.
Ronaldo is an opportunist while Messi creates goals, scores goals and provides goals all by himself. Just admit it you like Ronaldo as a person and the way he looks more than you like him as a player. Just remember aesthetics doesn't equal skill.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
its because hes ****ing 5 feet tall and doesnt get hacked the same way ronaldo does, its harder for a tall person to slither through defenses in EVERY sport.You just exposed yourself as a Ronaldo fanboy. Yeah they both have dribbling skills but only 1 beats defenders with ease, even Maradona couldn't consistently do what Messi does. Ronaldo struggles to get past even one defender. Messi beats 4-5 defenders and then scores a goal. You just can't compare him to Messi.
Ronaldo is an opportunist while Messi creates goals, scores goals and provides goals all by himself. Just admit it you like Ronaldo as a person and the way he looks more than you like him as a player. Just remember aesthetics doesn't equal skill.
Ronaldo is an opportunist while Messi creates goals, scores goals and provides goals all by himself. Just admit it you like Ronaldo as a person and the way he looks more than you like him as a player. Just remember aesthetics doesn't equal skill.
Center of gravity = lower
thats why aguero does the same **** messi does,
thats why shaqiri does the same ****
Im not saying messi isnt better, or ronaldo is better, but that logic is broken and retarded.
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Originally Posted By sickkentbrah⏩
Lol Aguero and Shaqiri beat defenders the same way Messi does? Show me a video where 1 player today has beaten multiple defenders the way Messi does and score a goal on top of that, show me just one. Even Hazard can't do what he does. Using your pace to outrun defenders is easy when you're faster than your opponent which is what Aguero and Hazard do but beating your opponents, going past them using just your superb dribbling and close control is something you can't teach, you must be God gifted to do it and that's what Messi doesits because hes ****ing 5 feet tall and doesnt get hacked the same way ronaldo does, its harder for a tall person to slither through defenses in EVERY sport.
Center of gravity = lower
thats why aguero does the same **** messi does,
thats why shaqiri does the same ****
Im not saying messi isnt better, or ronaldo is better, but that logic is broken and retarded.
Center of gravity = lower
thats why aguero does the same **** messi does,
thats why shaqiri does the same ****
Im not saying messi isnt better, or ronaldo is better, but that logic is broken and retarded.
No one in history has done what Messi is doing. Maradona comes close, but not quite.
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both are absolutely legends. ronaldo is an elite forward that uses every opportunity to strike, messi creates room for his peers, scores from everywhere and is the best dribbler ever.
the difference for me is how they "create" goals. ronaldo - though he has insane stats - is more of a classical forward. he struggles to overcome even one defender while messi manages to fight off 3 or even 4 defenders at the same time. no player - not even maradona - has been able to do that as well as messi.
it would be difficult to replace ronaldo, but it would be impossible to replace messi.
so for me, its clearly messi, even though ronaldo is a fantastic player and rightfully the second best of this era.
the difference for me is how they "create" goals. ronaldo - though he has insane stats - is more of a classical forward. he struggles to overcome even one defender while messi manages to fight off 3 or even 4 defenders at the same time. no player - not even maradona - has been able to do that as well as messi.
it would be difficult to replace ronaldo, but it would be impossible to replace messi.
so for me, its clearly messi, even though ronaldo is a fantastic player and rightfully the second best of this era.
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie⏩
Yup, when Messi actually comes up against a decent defense, he struggles to wriggle his way through. As proven against Juve. Ronaldo has more in his locker.Ronaldo is more complete.
Originally Posted By reznov1⏩
They're both on opposite ends of the pitch you noncemessi cucks ronaldo every time they come up against each other
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tbh i dont even care even tho im a die hard madrid supporter.
just think about the fact you can tell your future kids and grandchild about two amazing players that went head to head for years. 50+ goals every season....
just think about the fact you can tell your future kids and grandchild about two amazing players that went head to head for years. 50+ goals every season....
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