This is not true! There are definitely alot of groupies out there but in my experience alot of the wholesome girls are intimidated by a guy who is "too good". Go hang out with successful rich guys... there are TONS who settled and many lonely others who struggle with women.

How am I wrong on women? It's the cold hard truth.

Tbh I shouldn't even have said women, I should've said relationships considering you have judgements on the men too.

Many human beings are not self aware. "Oh I don't do that, I'm different." You may not think you do that but you do it subconciously. Of course there are some exceptions. Lol OP you're a ******* srs. What the fuk you gonna do, just stop living your life and enjoying your life because of women? I see many guys outside who are with girls and they aren't Chads, tall, and from what I can see they don't have big cocks (no homo). One you cannot do is online dating because that will only further warp your mind. I've been trying to go outside every single day even if I don't have anything to do like run errands. I just go outside and try to interact with at least one person every day. From my experiences since doing this, people told me I am a laid back person who seems like he doesn't take anything too serious. I didn't even know that about myself until now because I have been stuck inside my dark room miscing all the damn time (when I'm not working/studying)!!! If you have this sad mentality it will show in your face and your walk and everything and it's only hurting you and no one else. Let me tell you something I've learned in this 20+ years of life. No one gives a fuk about your struggles or what you are going through, that's the harsh truth. You only have yourself so you can either cry all day about it for attention or you can take steps to feeling better about yourself. Houstonmiscer out

i'd say even they get regular sex if they want it. They may not be a guys first pick, but all they'd have to do is wait around the bar long enough for some desperate guy too drunk to see how ugly she is, to pick her up.

There will ALWAYS be that thirsty schmuck that will phuck anything with a hole.

and guys have fat fetishes too, so maybe she could be the first to go home with a guy. Back in California there was a friend in my social circle we called Quagmire, because he phucked anything and everything. It didn't matter what it was, he just wanted to phuck. He actually had a list of "xbox achievements" of the types of women he wanted to bang. He had been with a tranny a girl with Down's Syndrome a midget, an amptee a morbidly obese girl...and I think the last I heard from him he was looking for a girl with acromegaly, lol

so yes even girls with severe disabilities there are guys out there for them, even if its just a ONS.

Sigh...like what exactly?

Physical pleasure? Not a given and most gals can do that solo.

A nice meal out somewhere? Okay, not worth getting naked IMO.

Risking STDs?

Pregnancy?

Getting "pumped and dumped"?

What are these fabulous prizes on offer to anyone with loose morals and a vajayjay?

honestly I never knew people put so much thought into this ****

no wonder you ****s are depressed lol

Absolutely brutal.

Strong disagreement

PRETTY MUCH! seriously! They just need to get some more confidence and work on not giving an F, doing their thing and some one will likely come along they click with.

I think that one thing that is 100% necessary is a good social circle

every girl I've ever met has been through my friends or their friends friends etc at different types of events etc

OP must have trouble getting dates.

Date hate on the chics because you keep striking out.

Im guessing its more social; so they can brag in their social circle.

Self-validation, ego stroking, etc.

Experience a ton of Co*k

Freedom from responsibility while not experiencing any pitfalls.

Question: are you extremely against slooting or more haphazard about it - where ultimately its up to the woman to do what she wants?

holding out for a trans-sex robot

I met my gf while having no friends in my area as an FA virgin with no experence and got her to fly across the country to see me. She paid for the flight. Tbh if you are an FA virgin its because you dont talk to grills. Or are horribly ugly and fat.

I think it's pretty low on the totem pole, but being sought after is the actual prize.

Let's say three things happen in a day.

1. Finish a project at work.

2. Get complimented on your new tie.

3. Have sex with a female.

Which of these things is the most rewarding and memorable?

Backed into a corner here.

Show me the female and describe the size of the project. LOL

That's a bit different to greatest accomplishment in life. I don't think anyone is saying sex is not enjoyable.

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo

R u serious?

Physical pleasure is part of it.

Part of it is validation they can get guys and preferably higher level guys. Just like girls like to show off pretty shoes and nice bags to their friends, they also get kicks off knowing/showing that they can get guys too.

Part of it is evolutionary in finding a the best mate to have the best offspring. Girls get pleasure out of flexing those attraction muscles and knowing they work right and putting them in action.

Which of these are?

1. Land your dream job

2. Going on an epic trip with your mates

3. Have sex with a female

hmmm. its very obv you're a virgin putting so much focus and basing your entire existence on sex

That's a more reasonable example.It's ok I already ran an informal poll lol.

I'd argue a great achievement in a man's life is turning down a chick that you know is dirt legged or will go crazy and cut your dick off in the middle of the night.

Ya because some of these guys on here that consider themselves FA I'm thinking they look pretty good . I don't get it.

If someone has a **** personality and no confidence​ at all that's a huge turn off . That's what most of these guys should probably work on. Imo having a chill personality and being able to make women laugh is the #1 biggest factor in dating/getting laid.

I wouldn't care if a guy was 280lbs if they can make me laugh that bumps them up 2+ points automatically (not that anyone goes by that irl..just saying)

For instance Google "vice Westminster dog show...on acid" (bc I don't know how to embed) dude is ugly as ****...but then if you watch til the end you're like "ok this dude seems really cool" still not cute but a little but more attractive (?) I guess.

So if that guy is a 3/10 imagine if some of y'all that are 5/10 worked on your personalities instead of getting bitter and grouchy.

all well and fine saying that you can be confident etc

but you will be completely ignored if you are in the vicinity of good looking guys who are confident


i know this for a fact because all of the girls i managed to attract who were completely out of my league, i got to know them in a class where there were no good looking guys around to compete with

had i met these girls when they were in their actual social circle with all their good looking guy friends, i would be INVISIBLE despite nothing about me changing.

i dont stand a chance if i meet girls in a bar/social outting with good looking guys, because they get all the attention

I'm 5'5", aggressively balding at 25 years old, and ugly. But hey - I'll try to be cooler! That'll help.

Meanwhile my female equivalent is leading a busy and fulfilling relationship/dating and sex life.

You can start by not having that ^^ be your main goal. Unless you are extremely good looking, have a great physique, rich, or have outstanding social skills, then it's not going to happen without a lot of work on your part. I can only assume that since you are asking the question you are probably lacking in most of those areas. My advice: Start small work on your deficiencies - the sex will come. Who knows, you might even end up in a long term relationship with someone.

How you ask?Change the things you can.Not to get women but because they need changing regardless.

You are not rich so don't worry about that for now. It's great to have a long term goal for financial security but at 18 not many people are planning very far ahead. Just having a job and being able to support yourself is step in the right direction and won't go unnoticed.

You don't have male model looks? Most guys don't. The world is chock full of average looking people having sex at this very moment. The key here is don't hurt your cause by ignoring basic things like hygiene, appearance, dress, etc. Nobody likes a slob. Your bowl haircut may be a great way to save money but it's not helping you break that barrier of a girl giving you a second look. Yellow teeth or bad breath - Game Over. If you can't respect yourself don't expect girls to.
In the world of the average looking there is a fine line between a 3 and a 6. A guy that's a 6 will be rated a 3 if he looks like he just climbed out of a dirty clothes hamper. Same in reverse. A 3 can make a huge jump by dressing nice, good haircut, and most importantly self-confidence. The point here is, don't be you own worst enemy. Learn to smile. A good smile will bump you up another point or two. Got bad teeth? Get braces. Use whitening strips. A good smile is important. Again, do these things for you first - otherwise you are wasting your time.

Physique: No brainier here. Don't be a fat-ass and don't be a 100lb weakling. If you are either one then get your ass to the gym. (you should be anyways)
You might not be able to be rich or good looking but this one you can change.

Social Skills: Ok.... you have made it this far and are thinking 'hey I've got a decent job, I'm not bad looking and I haven't transitioned to the Dad-Bod yet so why won't females give me the time of day?'. You guessed it pal - YOU are a dud. A boar. A walking, talking ******. That's if, and when, you even sac up and speak to women. Guess what.... you are in good company, a large portion of the misc has no idea either. No game - No girl. Simple as that. A rich dude can be a dud and get the girl, and a hot guy can too. Average guy can not.

If engaging in conversation is not natural for you, then start slow. Smile and say hi, tell a joke etc. Most of all be relaxed.
Work on TALKING to women. Do it a lot. Don't just wait for it to be someone you are interested in, do it to as many as possible. Look at this the same way as working out. Repetition builds muscle memory. Become comfortable with it so when you do meet someone that you are interested in, you won't come across as a dork or a creep.

Lastly, get out and enjoy life. Be around people that have interests similar to yours. Tinder is fine, bars, etc. but none of those are as good as meeting people who are in an environment where they are relaxed being themselves. Co-ed sports teams come to mind. Just get out and off the internet.

tl:dr

I like you......

Hey OP, confirm your theory... Go onto any marriage forum and or reddit r/deadbedroom and see how many females complain about not getting laid. There are a LOT of dating and married women who dont have healthy s*x lives. Its almost equal in percentages in complaints.

The only women that have health sex lives are happily partnered with someone with an equal sex drive, someone that is very good looking or single with open standards....

Ya I know how you feel on that. I'm married so the competition thing doesnt apply to me anymore though.

I'm pretty but I feel I'm just average (no hbb here) and even in study groups and stuff like that I've been ignored when a prettier girl was trying to ask a question.
it was like I was invisible

Like I said though, making a girl laugh is the way to pussy unless those Chad's are funny and have a good personality....then ya you're screwed.