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post 1505129801 05-17-2017, 02:04 PM
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One word: spurious correlation. This is tragic but compare that too how many people drink pots of coffee everyday without issue and it seem silly to even publicize. Like someone dying from drinking too much water.

In any event, I do agree that energy drinks need to be taken with caution of you're under 18.
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Originally Posted By gottk2x
he had to if he suffered arrhythmia from what little he drank..kid was a time bomb
Perhaps but I'm just telling you what it really said.

I think if he did this at 26 he'd live, maybe it had to do with being a lightweight?
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I mix my preworkout with redbull.
Probably on 12/1500mg caffeine a day.
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post 1505130001 05-17-2017, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Dbowens
not sure if trolling or stupid LOL the article said he had none.
There's no fcking way this kid died from 500-600 mg of Caffeine w/o having a health condition or genetic abnormality
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Originally Posted By Reach4More
Coffee/Preworkout/Energy Drink crew, should I pepper this angus?
Are you a teen drinking this all at once? How's your heart health?
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post 1505130061 05-17-2017, 02:06 PM
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One word: spurious correlation.This is tragic but compare that too how many people drink pots of coffee everyday without issue and it seem silly to even publicize. Like someone dying from drinking too much water. It's just sensationalism.

In any event, I do agree that energy drinks need to be consumed with caution if you're under 18.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
This...

That caffeine load is reminisce compared to the amount the older brahs got in their old pre-workouts
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Originally Posted By strengthgained
Guess what: 90% of the population consumes these things with no issues.
That's not true at all. Caffeine is extremely addictive. Simply because of the shear number of people who abuse it it is probably a bigger public health concern than any other drug. The problem is people don't even recognize how bad it's affecting their life. Think of it like this. How many people are on anxiety medications, sleeping pills, etc when all they really need to do is cut back on caffeine. Don't get me wrong. Coffee is the GOAT. That doesn't mean you should be drinking a pot a day. Its really concerning how popular energy drinks are now days. People drink that sht all day long and wounder why they can't sleep well FFS.
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They don't know of any heart condition.

That does not mean he didn't have one they are as of yet unaware of or something else wrong. Obviously he did.
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One word: spurious correlation. This is tragic but compare that too how many people drink pots of coffee everyday without issue and it seem silly to even publicize. Like someone dying from drinking too much water.

In any event, I do agree that energy drinks need to be taken with caution of you're under 18
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Originally Posted By strengthgained
Every single time a kid dies from caffeine it's from a preexisting heart condition. Then the parents get up in arms about caffeine and other drinks.

Guess what: 90% of the population consumes these things with no issues. Just another example of a minority trying to force their policy on others.
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I drank about 4L of energy drinks once when I was 16 or 17. I was pretty shaky but obviously I'm still alive.

(Specifically, it was a 12 can flat of 250 ml cans and then two full sized Rockstars.)
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Originally Posted By Jesse_l_g
That's not true at all. Caffeine is extremely addictive. Simply because of the shear number of people who abuse it it is probably a bigger public health concern than any other drug. The problem is people don't even recognize how bad it's affecting their life. Think of it like this. How many people are on anxiety medications, sleeping pills, etc when all they really need to do is cut back on caffeine. Don't get me wrong. Coffee is the GOAT. That doesn't mean you should be drinking a pot a day. Its really concerning how popular energy drinks are now days. People drink that sht all day long and wounder why they can't sleep well FFS.
I 100% agree with everything you said. It's absurd, you walk into a Starbucks filled with soccer moms berating drug use and alcohol abuse while they suck down drinks with 60+ grams sugar and 400+ mg of caffeine not knowing that they have a chemical dependence on exactly that.
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Originally Posted By LugosiNineOne
They don't know of any heart condition.

That does not mean he didn't have one they are as of yet unaware of or something else wrong. Obviously he did.
I thought it said he had no heart undiagnosed heart conditions, as in they confirmed he did not
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I've taken certain medications at a rather high dose + had around 500 or 600 mg of caffeine for studying and the worst thing I got was cramps from how fast I could type.

And I also felt like I was vibrating.
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5 grams of caffeine will kill a healthy 200 lb male.

Not even a gram in what was consumed in op article.
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A guy I knew died last year suddenly, he was 30 about as healthy as you could expect. Former baseball player, still in great shape pretty lean, worked out, etc. would always have a monster energy drink on him every time I'd see him. One day at work he just collapsed, cardiac event.
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Originally Posted By blckndyllw
I thought it said he had no heart undiagnosed heart conditions, as in they confirmed he did not
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Isn't it possible that the pathologist missed something though?
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Originally Posted By Rugger7
A guy I knew died last year suddenly, he was 30 about as healthy as you could expect. Former baseball player, still in great shape pretty lean, worked out, etc. would always have a monster energy drink on him every time I'd see him. One day at work he just collapsed, cardiac event.
He was in great shape but always drinking Monster?
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Originally Posted By LugosiNineOne
correct

Isn't it possible that the pathologist missed something though?
Yeah but looks as far as they know he was healthy and his heart would be fine if not for the energy cocktail
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Obviously something else at play here. Either he took something else, or he had a preexisting condition. A normal healthy individual will not die from taking 350mg of caffeine in 2 hours.

EDIT: And if it was some reaction to the "cocktail" or the way they were mixed/ingested, then you can't blame that on straight caffeine.
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caffeine is bad mmkay
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Originally Posted By LugosiNineOne
correct

Isn't it possible that the pathologist missed something though?
Or it was just unexplained sudden death. Sad story and I feel for the family.

Looked up my daily French press coffee habit. 650 mg caffeine estimated. 2/3rds of that by about 9 am, then the rest mid-day. So far so good. No inclination to give it up.
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Not even that much caffeine. How can they say that's what caused it? I could drink four red bulls in my early 20s in two hours while working in a 100+ degree kitchen.
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