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post 1505615771 05-21-2017, 11:24 PM
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I have nothing against hunting for practical purposes besides the gaming aspect of it (ie clean the animals you kill hunting and use them as food, don't waste the meat). That said, fukk "big game" trophy hunters to hell and back. There is absolutely zero practical reason to trophy hunt lions, leopard, elephants (as they mentioned this guy doing in this article) and chit like that. They are probably just going to be stuffed or some chit (when done legally anyway), and they are way too exotic and small in numbers to be hunted responsibly.

Stick to deer, water fowel, pheasants, turkeys, and that type of chit. Even stuff like bears if done responsibly in terms of conservation and you won't waste the meat. Fukk the trophy hunting bs.


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I have no sympathy for this ******* trophy hunter.

Darwin award material for epic fail of death by being crushed by a falling elephant him and his buddies were hunting.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Hope there is a special place in hell reserved for these fat white ****s that thing hunting magnificant animals like elephants is a sport.
Why do you have to make this about race and rip on white people over this topic? You realize that there are plenty of black people in Africa who participate in poaching activities like elephants for their ivory and that type of chit, right? There's absolutely no reason to bring race into this issue, there's dikks of every color needlessly slaughtering wild animals for bad reasons.
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Feels good man. What a little b*tch, needs to go shoot rare animals with a f*cking gun to try to feel like a man. Sorry bud but you've still got a small dick and are now dead. Love feel good stories like this. Big game *******, I'd piss on your grave if it was anywhere near me.
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post 1505616651 05-21-2017, 11:35 PM
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Just lol @ trophy killing
post 1505616821 05-21-2017, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
By having trophy hunting in general, big money comes in from rich, fat white dudes (generally). This money is then paid to game scouts who go out through the conservancy and stop the poachers from killing everything/anything for husk, meat, etc.

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Pretty much this.

I don't hunt at all; just not interested. But when people go out and drop tens of thousands of dollars on some of these hunts, it's going into funding the preserve. And, correct me if I'm wrong, they generally don't get to shoot any animal they please; there's usually a small number they can choose from, based on various things like age and status in the community the animal is in. Poaching is bad, but small, select hunting is fine. I wouldn't drop that much money, especially on a hunt, but whatever they like.

That said, go out on a hunt, risk getting hurt. Siht happens.
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post 1505617241 05-21-2017, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
By having trophy hunting in general, big money comes in from rich, fat white dudes (generally). This money is then paid to game scouts who go out through the conservancy and stop the poachers from killing everything/anything for husk, meat, etc.

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Worked on an anti-poaching team in Africa
basically sacrificing a small population for the greater good. understood, thanks brah.
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Originally Posted By stfudonny⏩
trophy hunters dont go for the old and diseased you twat. they go for the biggest and leanest they can find.....hence the term "trophy" hunting.
Look, I understand that you think this is 1910 or something and that Teddy Roosevelt is out there chomping cigars and slaying elephants, but it's not. Trophy Hunters shoot what the preserve tells them they are allowed to shoot, or they don't get the trophy, and can face some stiff penalties in what are generally 3rd world countries. LOL @ your complete lack of perspective.
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post 1505630671 05-22-2017, 04:58 AM
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they need to id and find that elephant to put it down, no matter what you think of game hunting no animal is above a fellow human bean's life, this pos elephant needs to take one between the eyes for what he did
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Wew this news made my day. Too bad of the elephants though
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Look, I understand that you think this is 1910 or something and that Teddy Roosevelt is out there chomping cigars and slaying elephants, but it's not. Trophy Hunters shoot what the preserve tells them they are allowed to shoot, or they don't get the trophy, and can face some stiff penalties in what are generally 3rd world countries. LOL @ your complete lack of perspective.
The preserves allow them to shoot the biggest baddest animals often to allow more funding to their conservation to allow the preserve to keep going. The result is a dramatic impact on their gene pool. It'd be great if preserves only let hunters shoot the small and weak, but it doesn't happen that way.

So the animals get smaller and more beta around the world.
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GJ elephant man.

Whether or not the proceeds go to help the animals, if you have the desire to kill an elephant you're a kunt.

Good riddance.
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post 1505632431 05-22-2017, 05:47 AM
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Interesting points itt

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Everyone in Southern Africa will be sad because they all hate elephants. srs.


And so would all of you if you had to live near them.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Places that banned trophy hunting have endangered big 5 populations. Places that allow trophy hunting at great expense have robust big 5 populations. It's almost like charging "fat old white guys" 5 figures to kill old, diseased, and/or overaggressive members of the herd while funding reserve maintainance and anti-poaching efforts is a more sustainable model than waiting on the locals to poach them to extinction because they're dirt poor and hungry...
i AGREE. AS FAR AS im concerned
animals are people too.they have feelings and emotions.they want affection and to be treated well.

these ass holes who think its cool and some how machismo to shoot down an animal who has no self defense or weapon are scum bags


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Legal hunting gives the animals value. Cattle are killed by the thousands each day and they are in no way endangered. Why? Because they have value and people breed them.

If game cannot be hunted they have little value and will be killed off by poachers without anyone batting an eye.
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post 1505633821 05-22-2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Places that banned trophy hunting have endangered big 5 populations. Places that allow trophy hunting at great expense have robust big 5 populations. It's almost like charging "fat old white guys" 5 figures to kill old, diseased, and/or overaggressive members of the herd while funding reserve maintainance and anti-poaching efforts is a more sustainable model than waiting on the locals to poach them to extinction because they're dirt poor and hungry...
Hard to believe they actually follow the letter of the law, I'm sure this is what they say but in reality they're just looking for the best and biggest - then say it was being aggressive or dangerous to others. I.e Cecil, they're trophy hunters after all their goal isn't to help

I find it even harder to believe these animals existed all this time in peace, but now need western hunters to kill them in order to survive...
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Actually they investigated trophy hunting, and barely any of the fee that hunters pay even go towards the community/conservation of wildlife.

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Originally Posted By mcdojo⏩
Actually they investigated trophy hunting, and barely any of the fee that hunters pay even go towards the community/conservation of wildlife.

USA ranger is coping hard
Not surprised, Africa is corrupt and these hunters don't actually care about conservation efforts lol they just want a trophy. Bet there's a lot of bribery and loose laws, we wouldn't know about Cecil if it didn't happen to be being tracked for research, bet those things happen all the time
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Originally Posted By BioDiver⏩
Vulnerable!=endangered and it doesn't change the fact that their population has gotten too big in various countries throughout southern Africa, including South Africa and Zimbabwe. There are measures in place to vasectomize elephants in some countries, but other communities rely on the money brought in by these big game hunts.
That is wayyyyy to complicated for folks on the misc man.


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Ahhh the conservation got the money and then the elephant killed the twat. Win win
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Originally Posted By thundermass⏩
But when people go out and drop tens of thousands of dollars on some of these hunts, it's going into funding the preserve.
No, it isn't.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...babwe-namibia/
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...-conservation/
https://www.thedodo.com/does-hunting...389284014.html

I understand those aren't the most scientific of sources, but you would be hard pressed to find any concrete evidence of exactly where the money is actually going for obvious reasons. Africa has some of the most corrupt governments in existence. If you think those fees from big game trophy hunting is going to the preserves and local African communities, you are sorely mistaken.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
By having trophy hunting in general, big money comes in from rich, fat white dudes (generally). This money is then paid to game scouts who go out through the conservancy and stop the poachers from killing everything/anything for husk, meat, etc.

Source:

Worked on an anti-poaching team in Africa
This^^

While hunting may seem morally reprehensible on the surface, anyone with a modicum of interest in the subject would do a bit of research and determine that hunting is the primary driving force for conservation. People tend to hop on the bambi bandwagon very easily, poor little thing etc. but they are not putting their blood sweat and tears into the maintenance of healthy animal populations (albeit for profit). Hunting helps far more than just the lodge/game farm owner, they employ a large number of typically unskilled rural workers that would otherwise not find gainful employment as well as provide meat for many communities as a byproduct of the much hated "trophy hunter".

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Originally Posted By blckndyllw⏩
Hard to believe they actually follow the letter of the law, I'm sure this is what they say but in reality they're just looking for the best and biggest - then say it was being aggressive or dangerous to others. I.e Cecil, they're trophy hunters after all their goal isn't to help

I find it even harder to believe these animals existed all this time in peace, but now need western hunters to kill them in order to survive...
This, it sounds like a great excuse to continue to trophy hunt.... but but I'm helping the animals.

With that said some hunts are good and make sense when they're based around population control. For example in my hometown the state park periodically holds a huge deer hunt for population reasons where they allow hunters to hunt on state land quell deer numbers.
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
By having trophy hunting in general, big money comes in from rich, fat white dudes (generally). This money is then paid to game scouts who go out through the conservancy and stop the poachers from killing everything/anything for husk, meat, etc.

Source:

Worked on an anti-poaching team in Africa
Right. Like the most corrupt continent on this planet siphons money to the appropriate causes. LOL!
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