Probably the first and last time I agree with whoppie Goldberg, but at some point, you have to dis-empower the word

They're saying white people can't say it as a term for endearment like black people have. He's saying some white people find themselves too familiar with black culture and believe they can use the word as a term for endearment when it will always be associated as a negative connotation when said by Them. Personally, I hardly ever use the word because there are so many more words to describe people, but I do agree with his assessment.

Slavery talk really needs to be put to bed although it is a main driving force why blacks in America are so far behind whites when it comes to the solid, generational, hand-me-down corporations that have been around since americas inception. Had so,e blacks has the ability to educate themselves and invest in such organizations, there's no telling how much farther along blacks would be presently.

What Ice Cube is trying to describe is that the word was once used to "own" black people,and if we let white people have it back, they'll use it against us again.I mean, you already see absurd amounts of racism all over the internet, especially towards us blacks, people freely throw around the n-word, why wouldn't white people want to abuse that word again, when they already did and do?

As far as the homies part, there's a difference between someone familiar using it, and then someone who's a square (like Bill Maher). Also a big difference between n***a and n***er. Even n***a can be effected by the context it's used.

I mean it's a simple concept really. If you're a square, and don't know much or anything about black people, don't use it. If you're down, and you have people familiar with you, then perhaps you're good to go. I don't know why some people make this huge deal about it, when they don't go abuse racial slurs for other races for the most part. For some reason, when it comes to black people, people always want to jump case, like we're doing something wrong. This is just the result of our history, all I can say is get used to it or be called a racist.

You make white people out to look like the boogie man. I've been around this country 100x more than most people and can only think of a few occasions where the n word was used by a white person. I can't think of any instances where it was used out of hate... and I've been in some pretty hick areas. Honestly, if it wasn't constantly brought up by the black community it would fall in the waste bin of word history.

All of this bullchit is simply making a mole out of an ant hill.

Boggles my mind how much the racism card is used on white people. I've personally found minority groups vs minority groups to be 10x more bigoted than whites.

Interesting, so after all those years of pulling black folks down your family ended up poor, seems the problem is they did the whole advantage thing wrong, not only was this horse taken to water, they barred other horses from drinking and here lies its youngling in the same place as the barred horses. I don't know man, I don't know. Oh look its the whole lets get out of the topic and make it about the person talking and not the points, where have I seen this before hmmmm(picture Scars face with Simba hanging for dear life). Your opinions count, this is a discussion hence we must discuss, you give me your view I give you my view, but to discredit my "wall of text" off of some technicality that you created to your block your ability to understand amuses me, so it is entirely up to you whether we continue or not.

On your second point, I am intrigued as to how you some how equated life to this equation. We have two different experiences stemmed from our history and race. No one owes me anything nor do I ask for anything, the difference with us is one a product of racist people and the other is a product of the receivers of said racist people. If I am soldier I am taught how to kill, pillage, destroy etc, if you are on the receiving end you are taught how to defend, hide, rebuild and endure. Those with the scars are not the ones who rob people, but those that get robbed, your family has no scars to pass on.

The reason black people are the way they are is due to slavery and post slavery all the way till end of Jim Crow and whenever white people felt like not being openly barbaric to them which would be 80's or so. Now what where black parents teaching their kids about white people or what did a black child learn from encounters with whites? Well say a black man is walking with his wife and pre teen son in the 60s and run into some white teenagers in town. One of the teenagers walks passed and slaps his wife in the ass and looks at the man in the face and says what are you going to do about it boy? Well the man knows he can't do anything and is shamed, the wife looks at her husband unable to protect her from a 14yr old, and the preteen sees a father with no balls who is none deserving of respect, because as boys you know how we feel about mothers.

Anyway I lost track of my thoughts, but this whole racism thing is bigger than you will ever understand, the fact that it has never been talked about as a country or ratified will one day lead in to a serious civil issue. I asked a man who claimed that BLM is a terrorist group whether he had ever viewed, talked about with family or in his inner circle whether the KKK was a terrorist group and he said no, funny aint it.

You've got to be kidding me. I hope i didn't misunderstand your statement because it seems devoid of responsibility and attempts to lay the current plight of the black community on white people. How can you say that in the wealthiest country in the world, the most diverse country in the world, and one where every group (including white people) have met resistance at one point in time or another?

If you don't have what you want in this country then move 3000 miles across it to another part, use free Internet, free camping/lodging, free food, free health care, free libraries, free water, etc... and fix it. If someone still can't make reasonable headway... then they just suck at life.

meanwhile whites are called gringos all the time and nobody gives a ****. and because nobody gives a **** the word basically has no meaning, even when you can tell they are purposely saying it in a demeaning way. it's just like yea ok buddy lol. asians are the same way, they cop racist **** all the time and dgaf. but don't expect blacks to figure out this secret anytime soon. they will continue to overreact and continue to give the word meaning to be used against them.

My younger cousins (white) love black men.

You misunderstood.What I'm saying is if blacks and whites( and all other races for that matter) came to America as equals, both shared and taught the same information, I imagine blacks would have more of a solid footing in America presently. What you say rings true for maybe the last 70-80 years but blacks couldn't just live the American dream back in the day when a lot of the most powerful businesses and corporations were coming into being. I'm not in any way using that as an excuse( I imagine that's just common sense) because I've made it, my parents have made, and their parents made it and the current young generation is doing well and living better than anyone before them( the American dream right?).

As another poster ITT already said ... the Jews have never had it easy and yet keep kicking ass. The Japenese were locked in internment camps and keep kicking ass. The Chinese were essentially treated as slaves when they first came in the 1800s and they kick ass, the germans carved out their spots in Texas and parts of the east coast, the latinos have made their mark, the native americans were treated the worst out of everyone and they've managed to do well in many areas.

Those and many more groups struggle and continue to ... and honestly i don't hear much media spin on it. What you do hear all the time is stuff about the black community. The only thing that makes logical sense to me at this point in time is that most of the problems stem from the black community itself. The fact that you can't even say something like that in public without being called a racist adds validity to my point IMO.

As another poster ITT already said ... the Jews have never had it easy and yet keep kicking ass. The Japenese were locked in internment camps and keep kicking ass. The Chinese were essentially treated as slaves when they first came in the 1800s and they kick ass, the germans carved out their spots in Texas and parts of the east coast, the latinos have made their mark, the native americans were treated the worst out of everyone and they've managed to do well in many areas.

Those and many more groups struggle and continue to ... and honestly i don't hear much media spin on it. What you do hear all the time is stuff about the black community. The only thing that makes logical sense to me at this point in time is that most of the problems stem from the black community itself. The fact that you can't even say something like that in public without being called a racist adds validity to my point IMO.

I agree with you, it doesn't invalidate what I said. If Jews, Chinese, and hispanics had all come here and had the same opportunities as whites, they'd be a lot better off too. Simply put, the black community has a long way to go, but I agree with both your point and theirs. It's hard for me to understand about the struggle because I come from an affluent background and live well now. Maybe I'm out of touch with their reality?

They're all hypocrites man. No point listening to what these idiots have to say.

I don't really agree that whites had some special privilege. Many were indentured servants, many poor, many forcibly conscripted, etc. I had a military buddy post about his Acadian history where the British killed, imprisoned, and forcibly removed tens of thousands of them from their settlements. Sure there were some whites that had it easy, but most didn't and the vast majority immigrated after the civil war with little to nothing and carved out a life.

I don't really agree that whites had some special privilege. Many were indentured servants, many poor, many forcibly conscripted, etc. I had a military buddy post about his Acadian history where the British killed, imprisoned, and forcibly removed tens of thousands of them from their settlements. Sure there were some whites that had it easy, but most didn't and the vast majority immigrated after the civil war with little to nothing and carved out a life.

So we should all be equal, we're all the same, colour means nothing, but black people can use a word and white people can't.

Mmmmkayyyyyy.

"When my homies use the word, it's ok". So presumably he has no white "homies".

Meh. My opinion is either stop using the word, or let everyone use it.

If you hear the word 15 times a day, because it's in mainstream pop/rap then occasionally a white person is gonna slip up.

hehe.....I used it intentionally. For added impact.

My grammar is flawless.