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ยป Ice Cube gives Bill Mahe a lesson on why he shouldnt have used the N word *Vid*
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Originally Posted By LugosiNineOne
Don't care that the country is divided and I know why it is.

More division leads to greater anger and animosity which builds to revolution/civil war. I have no problem with this.
More division leads to easier control by the upper classes. What a lot of white people in this country fail to realize is that they are someone's ni&&ers too.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
You mean that the people who don't profit off of promoting violence, misogyny, materialism and gangsterism among black people in America are against anyone using it. While the non gang member who made a living off of pretending to be one and promoting black on black violence and criminality wants it to be a special word.Interesting.
Even more interesting is that since the early 90s the vast majority of people buying rap music were white youth. So the people supporting the music are being told, "Buy what I say but don't do what i say..." ? Actually... no ... i don't know what the heck message it is they're trying to push because it confusing and contradictory in multiple ways.

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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Even more interesting is that since the early 90s the vast majority of people buying rap music were white youth. So the people supporting the music are being told, "Buy what I say but don't do what i say..." ? Actually... no ... i don't know what the heck message it is they're trying to push because it confusing and contradictory in multiple ways.
If u heard a rap song that talks about killin and shooting cops u know its not ok to do and its just a song, but once they say the n word, common sense flies out the window.
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil
Nah. Everytime I see a viral video of whoopi she speaks the truth, she shared her view on public TV that if a woman hits a man she can expect to get hit back, whilst all of her liberal team hosts didn't agree and lost their chit. Instant respect for her right there.
Mind blown that whoopi said this chit. I thought she was a bitchy lesbian the whole time
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Even more interesting is that since the early 90s the vast majority of people buying rap music were white youth. So the people supporting the music are being told, "Buy what I say but don't do what i say..." ? Actually... no ... i don't know what the heck message it is they're trying to push because it confusing and contradictory in multiple ways.
I've heard that claim that the vast majority of people buying rap music are white, but it can't really be proven. I have never been asked my race when purchasing a CD. I think that it is just one of those urban legends like saggy pants starting in prison.

As far as the message, it is for both blacks and whites. There is an agenda. It causes whites to associate black culture with all of these negative connotations, promoting fear as well,and it influences black youth to emulate these stereotypes. I'll let you guess what race predominately runs the music industry, I'll give you a hint: They disproportionately make up the top 1% wealthiest individuals, and their religion is rooted in racism.
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What is RonaldMcflurry even going on about, lol? I thought this thread was about Bill Maher. Dude didn't even get fired or reprimanded, just had a conversation with Ice Cube and you're rustled as hell.
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Originally Posted By PaddleBunt
Its kind of funny how both ice cube and that chick don't understand the irony of their argument. Getting angry about racism but being low key racist when they say "black people can say it but white people can't" surely if they are arguing that white people aren't allowed to say something purely based on the color of their skin then they are pushing racism. The simple fact is that neither I, my parents or my grandparents had slaves, so why am I supposed to feel some kind of collective guilt about slavery?

Last time I checked EVERY race on earth took part in slavery at some point or another but white people were the ONLY ones to say 'enough is enough, never again' and actually put out legislation to stop it. What people don't want to admit is that WHITE CULTURE ended slavery, the black slaver owners in Africa had no problem at all selling their own people
I completely agree with this lol.

It's not my fault what people did years ago literally nothing to do with me or my family. Either everyone should be allowed to say it or nobody should.

It's funny coming from a guy who literally says it multiple times in almost every single hit he's ever had. Either don't phuckin say it or everyone can say it. By saying only white people cannot say the word is discriminating a against a white person because of the colour of their skin. (Which is exactly what racism is in the first place).
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Ice Cube is racist as fuk to white people, now he wants to act all entitled because a comedian used it in a joke? Fuk off man...if the word is so offensive how about you stop saying "its ours" and don't use it at all.
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really don't know how this thread is still going on. i watched the youtube clip yesterday, and honestly felt bad for bill maher.
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Couldn't help but laugh at Maher getting made out to be a bitch on national television

Maybe this will be a wake-up call that the same people he tries to defend hate his white guts

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Lol @ Ice Cube talking about racism when he made songs like Black Korea
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff
If u heard a rap song that talks about killin and shooting cops u know its not ok to do and its just a song, but once they say the n word, common sense flies out the window.
You're cherry picking hard. I had friends in the 90s that idolized and mimicked everything to do with their favorite rappers. For those rappers to come back and chastise them for emulating is immature and hop-skipping responsibility. Especially, when the guys promoting the music state that their intention was to help de-racialize the word.
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Pathetic... people are so scared of being labelled racist they will let a guy spout complete rubbish whilst belittling an entire race and applaud.
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Seeing bleeding heart liberals get exposed when their "c'mon, I hate white people too" reasoning fails is poetic justice
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I'm black but I'm so far beyond being bothered by sheit like this. Bill Maher doesn't have an insincere soul he's a good dude good comedian just slipped up and allowed himself to say something he should have known people would be disturbed by. Ice Cube handled it respectfully tho and Bill Maher accepted it gracefully. Nothing more to see as far as I'm concerned. They all handled eachothers perspectives like adults, more than I can say for people in this thread.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
I've heard that claim that the vast majority of people buying rap music are white, but it can't really be proven.I have never been asked my race when purchasing a CD. I think that it is just one of those urban legends like saggy pants starting in prison.

As far as the message, it is for both blacks and whites. There is an agenda. It causes whites to associate black culture with all of these negative connotations, promoting fear as well,and it influences black youth to emulate these stereotypes. I'll let you guess what race predominately runs the music industry, I'll give you a hint: They disproportionately make up the top 1% wealthiest individuals, and their religion is rooted in racism.
You don't have to. Credit card information, IP address, location of purchase, search engine data, etc... are just a few things that can be used to ascertain fairly accurate statistical data.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
You're cherry picking hard. I had friends in the 90s that idolized and mimicked everything to do with their favorite rappers. For those rappers to come back and chastise them for emulating is immature and hop-skipping responsibility. Especially, when the guys promoting the music state that their intention was to help de-racialize the word.
Lol im not. You guys choose to imitate wat u want then when told its not ok yall throw a hissy fit. Does it hurt u that much to not say a demoralizing word?
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
You don't have to. Credit card information, IP address, location of purchase, search engine data, etc... are just a few things that can be used to ascertain fairly accurate statistical data.
So you think that someone was going through all of that to determine the races of rap music CD purchasers? Who? The NSA? Do you have any evidence of that?
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff
Lol im not. You guys choose to imitate wat u want then when told its not ok yall throw a hissy fit. Does it hurt u that much to not say a demoralizing word?
Umm yes you are. There are hundreds of things you could imitate out of a rap video and you choose the most extreme thing (killing cops) to cherry-pick. And yes... there are people out there that emulate that.

Then, you down play the obvious point i made about hypocrisy. If you say the n word thousands of times to your customer base ... you have no right to freak out the few times they let it slip out...especiallywhen it was your original intention to remove the racial connotations by saying it hundreds of times in a slang form

Maher did exactly what they wanted and got chastised for it.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
So you think that someone was going through all of that to determine the races of rap music CD purchasers? Who? The NSA? Do you have any evidence of that?
They're doing all that in order to better target their demographic and maximize profits. Every sizable consumer driven company does this. Pornhub does this.
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White people I need you to indulge me for a second. What is YOUR definition or understanding of the word RACIST.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Umm yes you are. There are hundreds of things you could imitate out of a rap video and you choose the most extreme thing (killing cops) to cherry-pick. And yes... there are people out there that emulate that.

Then, you down play the obvious point i made about hypocrisy. If you say the n word thousands of times to your customer base ... you have no right to freak out the few times they let it slip out...especiallywhen it was your original intention to remove the racial connotations by saying it hundreds of times in a slang form

Maher did exactly what they wanted and got chastised for it.
My point is you should not imitate someone that yall consider to be such scumbags and thugs.

We are not freaking out about it. Ice Cube sat down with him like an adult and told him why it was not ok. They both agree and ended on good terms.

If someone sits u down and says "I dont like when you say that, please do not say it again". Why is it so hard to do that?

Lets say we let white ppl say the word. Are you even going to say it?
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Originally Posted By PaddleBunt
Its kind of funny how both ice cube and that chick don't understand the irony of their argument. Getting angry about racism but being low key racist when they say "black people can say it but white people can't" surely if they are arguing that white people aren't allowed to say something purely based on the color of their skin then they are pushing racism. The simple fact is that neither I, my parents or my grandparents had slaves, so why am I supposed to feel some kind of collective guilt about slavery?

Last time I checked EVERY race on earth took part in slavery at some point or another but white people were the ONLY ones to say 'enough is enough, never again' and actually put out legislation to stop it. What people don't want to admit is that WHITE CULTURE ended slavery, the black slaver owners in Africa had no problem at all selling their own people
What people like Ice Cube might fail to understand is that they live in a country that's inhabited by white people, alongside other ethnic groups. Meaning, if you made a livelihood by repeatedly saying the n word, chances are a bunch of white people, and people of other ethnic backgrounds, heard it, over and over and over and over. Which they did because rap is popular, as are Ice Cube's movies. So if a white person is finding himself using the n word, then he's doing so because cultures at this point have collided. The n word is mainstream, like it or not.

However, racial biases haven't caught up yet.
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Originally Posted By chishuppu
White people I need you to indulge me for a second. What is YOUR definition or understanding of the word RACIST.
The idea that people with different skin colors have a large enough genetic difference, that cohabiting with each other would create unnecessary problems. The more racist one is the more separation they would want to have between the other races.

I guess that would be my understanding of the word RACIST.
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Originally Posted By BeerCalories
The idea that people with different skin colors have a large enough genetic difference, that cohabiting with each other would create unnecessary problems. The more racist one is the more separation they would want to have between the other races.

I guess that would be my understanding of the word RACIST.
What would you call it if one of those groups had the power to determine where in that society the other group could live, eat, sleep, work, school, travel etc making sure they don't progress in life?
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He used the word in the most innocent way possible, which tells me, there is no circumstance in which a white person can use that word, at least according to the two black people in the above video.
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Originally Posted By BeerCalories
The idea that people with different skin colors have a large enough genetic difference, that cohabiting with each other would create unnecessary problems. The more racist one is the more separation they would want to have between the other races.

I guess that would be my understanding of the word RACIST.
Genetic? Hmmm I wouldnt say that. Lets just say, one group started halfway through the race and the other group is at the starting line.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff
My point is you should not imitate someone that yall consider to be such scumbags and thugs.
That makes no sense. Why would white teenagers that idolize rappers like Ice Cube in their dress, bling, talk, ambitions consider him a scumbag? They imitate him because they like him.
We are not freaking out about it. Ice Cube sat down with him like an adult and told him why it was not ok. They both agree and ended on good terms.
What??? It's ALL OVER THE MEDIA AND INTERNET
If someone sits u down and says "I dont like when you say that, please do not say it again". Why is it so hard to do that?
So if i sit in front of my kids and say, "Motherfcker!" 20 times a day and then here them repeat it and say, "Please don't do that." Yet, they still do it every once in a while ... that's great leading by example. Hmmm.... you can't see a conflict there?

Of course in this case, they used the n word in away to hopefully drop the racial tension related to it. It worked and people used the n word ... and now they don't like it. Hmmmm .... you can't see a conflict there?

Oprah and various other people that were around in the 50s and 60s said they don't like it when rappers use the n word. Why is it so hard for the rappers not to do that?
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
That makes no sense. Why would white teenagers that idolize rappers like Ice Cube in the dress, bling, talk, ambitions consider him a scumbag? They imitate him because they like him.



What??? It's ALL OVER THE MEDIA AND INTERNET



So if i sit in front of my kids and say, "Motherfcker!" 20 times a day and then here them repeat it and say, "Please don't do that." Yet, they still do it every once in a while ... that's great leading by example. Hmmm.... you can't see a conflict there?

Of course in this case, they used the n word in away to hopefully drop the racial tension related to it. It worked and people used the n word ... and now they don't like it. Hmmmm .... you can't see a conflict there?

Oprah and various other people that were around in the 50s and 60s said they don't like it when rappers use the n word. Why is it so hard for the rappers not to do that?
Do your parents ever cuss in front of you and expesct u not to cuss because youre just a child?
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Ice Cube lol smh you're doing no one any favors by saying that.
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