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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
LOL now we're making fun of people's bodies now. I think you're a little rustled my man.
You probably built your whole physique on eating meat, just stfu and eat your lettuce.
You probably built your whole physique on eating meat, just stfu and eat your lettuce.
I have a primal urge to shoot something whether its cutting a chickens head off, shooting a deer for meat, or filleting a fish. Cutting a fishes head off and filleting it or field dressing a deer and pulling out all it's internal organs satisfies a primal gene in my body
So primal bro. Dat primal gene
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06-25-2017, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
He would make you gobble his vegan cawk if you both were locked in a prison cell together.
Lord of the rings dwarves don't frighten meHe would make you gobble his vegan cawk if you both were locked in a prison cell together.
Maybe if he ate meat he'd have reached adult size
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Is the vegan glow real (srs)
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Originally Posted By markduschane⏩
Side-effect, My skin has never been better. srsIs the vegan glow real (srs)
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06-25-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Aggressive⏩
I don't think it's too awful to eat mussels but the important thing to keep in mind is that mussels play an extremely important role in maintaining aquatic habitat. I believe it's best to leave them alone.I'm vegan and would not have a problem with eggs if they were actually ethical. What egg industry is ethical? Hope you're not talking about "free-range". And for people to have home-grown hens to lay eggs there needs to be a demand to reproduce hens. But what about the male chicks? They're usually gassed or thrown into a grinder alive. None of this is ethical which is why I don't eat eggs.
I'm still undecided on oysters and things like mussels. They're closer to plant non-sentience than anything so I don't (until further knowledge) think it's a problem to eat them. But I've not heard enough on that to make a decision either way yet
I see most of the arguments against veganism ITT are through ignorance or not thinking their replies through enough. And we're the one's who get called illogical..
I'm still undecided on oysters and things like mussels. They're closer to plant non-sentience than anything so I don't (until further knowledge) think it's a problem to eat them. But I've not heard enough on that to make a decision either way yet
I see most of the arguments against veganism ITT are through ignorance or not thinking their replies through enough. And we're the one's who get called illogical..
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Completely agree m8. I don't eat them. But I don't have an argument either way at the moment (on the sentience argument) just because I don't know enough about them yet.I don't think it's too awful to eat mussels but the important thing to keep in mind is that mussels play an extremely important role in maintaining aquatic habitat. I believe it's best to leave them alone.
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Originally Posted By markduschane⏩
100% non-negotiable. Veganism will make your skin better than it has ever been.Is the vegan glow real (srs)
06-25-2017, 06:28 PM
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Comes out of a cows' titsVegetarians have a valid argument IMO.
Veganism is just idiotic BRB can't drink milk...wat?
Veganism is just idiotic BRB can't drink milk...wat?
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A hen has her period, then we eat what comes outYeah I get it but it's not about the industry with vegans, it's on principle. You've cut out the inhumane industry but a vegan still won't eat those eggs. You have a rational stance based upon ethics, you have worked out how to eat eggs without supporting animals cruelty. Fine. Vegans won't eat eggs because they're vegan, which is retarded.
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Originally Posted By Drhunglow⏩
And I eat Mrs Beer's snatch regularly, no fuks given.Comes out of a cows' tits
A hen has her period, then we eat what comes out
A hen has her period, then we eat what comes out
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I do agree, but it doesn't matter, argument will be irrelevant soon Srs
I will be going 100% with lab grown meat for the ethical reasons once commercially available
I will be going 100% with lab grown meat for the ethical reasons once commercially available
06-25-2017, 06:42 PM
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And for the record when I saw Gary's video I actually went vegan for about 2 weeks is all I lasted.
Meat just tastes too good, and fulfills my primal needs.
Yes, we could do without right now. Is that ever going to happen in our lifetime? Probably not.
There's a possibility I could try veganism again one day, but right now I like eating meat and hunting.
Meat just tastes too good, and fulfills my primal needs.
Yes, we could do without right now. Is that ever going to happen in our lifetime? Probably not.
There's a possibility I could try veganism again one day, but right now I like eating meat and hunting.
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who am i to stand in the way of millions of years of evolution? no thnx jeff, imma enjoy my breakfast burgers.
Originally Posted By nn586⏩
bro i basically went breatharian for 3 months. TFW i got home and dove into a 2 pound bowl of small shell mac and mozz cheese, followed by a greeeeCCC double cheeseburger for dinner!And for the record when I saw Gary's video I actually went vegan for about 2 weeks is all I lasted.
Meat just tastes too good, and fulfills my primal needs.
Meat just tastes too good, and fulfills my primal needs.
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06-25-2017, 07:32 PM
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Vegan? Yo dog, that's gonna be a no for me.
Yes if you sift through the half-hidden science and the rest of the half-truths there can be some semblance of an argument made, but at the end of the day we're the dominant species, we ate meat for a reason in the past, and stopping all together especially for "moral" reasons is never going to happen. Who knows, when we're all being imprinted into machines then we may be running on a completely type of fuel. Until then I'll eat my delicious and healthy balance of meat and non-meat products, while doing a realistic best to buy from more reputable sources.
I am fine with whatever someone chooses, but when vegans start preaching and acting like non-vegans are somehow "don't get it" and are monsters then I have to start dishing out reality. It doesn't help that nearly everyone of them I see of them looks exactly how I imagine them. I have reduced my meat consumption over the years for a more balanced diet, but it's not because of anything vegans have said.
Yes if you sift through the half-hidden science and the rest of the half-truths there can be some semblance of an argument made, but at the end of the day we're the dominant species, we ate meat for a reason in the past, and stopping all together especially for "moral" reasons is never going to happen. Who knows, when we're all being imprinted into machines then we may be running on a completely type of fuel. Until then I'll eat my delicious and healthy balance of meat and non-meat products, while doing a realistic best to buy from more reputable sources.
I am fine with whatever someone chooses, but when vegans start preaching and acting like non-vegans are somehow "don't get it" and are monsters then I have to start dishing out reality. It doesn't help that nearly everyone of them I see of them looks exactly how I imagine them. I have reduced my meat consumption over the years for a more balanced diet, but it's not because of anything vegans have said.
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its called being an immature bodybuilding ******* that doesn't have reasoning capabilities yet. for 50 million years our ancestors ate animals, and obviously they didn't go extinct from heart disease and cancer. now we have had agriculture for 1% of our history, and are predominantly carbohydrate eaters and not usually the right types of carbs, and brown rice and oatmeal don't cut it either *******. now we are going slowly extinct, thanks to the fact that our doctors are so stupid that they tell people to avoid the foods that kept us healthy for millions of years.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
I used to be a vegetarian and at least for me, it's extremely hard to get enough protein. I have been lifting daily for decades and have a good amount of muscle mass and there is no way to get enough protein eating plants. I have trouble getting meals in eating meat let alone that nonsense.It actually makes much more sense to go vegan. I've watched Vegan Gains debate meat eaters and he destroys them every time.
The reason I don't go vegan is because it will make zero difference. If I decide not to go to the store and buy chicken breast, the chicken is still dead. The chicken breast will either be sold to somebody else or thrown away.
Ultimately it comes down to selfishness though. Meat just tastes too good and I don't want to give it up.
The reason I don't go vegan is because it will make zero difference. If I decide not to go to the store and buy chicken breast, the chicken is still dead. The chicken breast will either be sold to somebody else or thrown away.
Ultimately it comes down to selfishness though. Meat just tastes too good and I don't want to give it up.
In addition, life is what it is and animals are going to die anyway, so they might as well benefit people. The only thing I'm opposed to is purposely torturing animals in any way.
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Originally Posted By andishehhank⏩
You heard it here first guys. You've gotta be at least 40 years old before you know anything.its called being an immature bodybuilding ******* that doesn't have reasoning capabilities yet. for 50 million years our ancestors ate animals, and obviously they didn't go extinct from heart disease and cancer. now we have had agriculture for 1% of our history, and are predominantly carbohydrate eaters and not usually the right types of carbs, and brown rice and oatmeal don't cut it either *******. now we are going slowly extinct, thanks to the fact that our doctors are so stupid that they tell people to avoid the foods that kept us healthy for millions of years.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
Logic has no age you fat tub of chit
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Originally Posted By EoR⏩
Vegan? Yo dog, that's gonna be a no for me.
Yes if you sift through the half-hidden science and the rest of the half-truths there can be some semblance of an argument made, but at the end of the day we're the dominant species, we ate meat for a reason in the past, and stopping all together especially for "moral" reasons is never going to happen. Who knows, when we're all being imprinted into machines then we may be running on a completely type of fuel. Until then I'll eat my delicious and healthy balance of meat and non-meat products, while doing a realistic best to buy from more reputable sources.
I am fine with whatever someone chooses, but when vegans start preaching and acting like non-vegans are somehow "don't get it" and are monsters then I have to start dishing out reality. It doesn't help that nearly everyone of them I see of them looks exactly how I imagine them. I have reduced my meat consumption over the years for a more balanced diet, but it's not because of anything vegans have said.
Yes if you sift through the half-hidden science and the rest of the half-truths there can be some semblance of an argument made, but at the end of the day we're the dominant species, we ate meat for a reason in the past, and stopping all together especially for "moral" reasons is never going to happen. Who knows, when we're all being imprinted into machines then we may be running on a completely type of fuel. Until then I'll eat my delicious and healthy balance of meat and non-meat products, while doing a realistic best to buy from more reputable sources.
I am fine with whatever someone chooses, but when vegans start preaching and acting like non-vegans are somehow "don't get it" and are monsters then I have to start dishing out reality. It doesn't help that nearly everyone of them I see of them looks exactly how I imagine them. I have reduced my meat consumption over the years for a more balanced diet, but it's not because of anything vegans have said.
Originally Posted By Hornlesscow⏩
who am i to stand in the way of millions of years of evolution? no thnx jeff, imma enjoy my breakfast burgers.
bro i basically went breatharian for 3 months. TFW i got home and dove into a 2 pound bowl of small shell mac and mozz cheese, followed by a greeeeCCC double cheeseburger for dinner!
bro i basically went breatharian for 3 months. TFW i got home and dove into a 2 pound bowl of small shell mac and mozz cheese, followed by a greeeeCCC double cheeseburger for dinner!
Originally Posted By andishehhank⏩
Oh look another pack of morons who don't understand what an appeal to nature fallacy is. I heard that breakfast burgers have been a key part of human's evolution LMFAOits called being an immature bodybuilding ******* that doesn't have reasoning capabilities yet. for 50 million years our ancestors ate animals, and obviously they didn't go extinct from heart disease and cancer. now we have had agriculture for 1% of our history, and are predominantly carbohydrate eaters and not usually the right types of carbs, and brown rice and oatmeal don't cut it either *******. now we are going slowly extinct, thanks to the fact that our doctors are so stupid that they tell people to avoid the foods that kept us healthy for millions of years.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
if you trust a young ******* who is barely 40 years old trying to sound like an expert you are seriously naiive, and if you think that means most old people know what they are talking about then you might as well pull tinkerbell out of my ass hole and sprinkle its powder on you and fly to Neverland.
I'm pretty sure this phat phuck drank too much milk and got a wicked case of gyno.
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I've said it before in another thread,
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
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Originally Posted By Aggressive⏩
You probably stink less to, tbh I've cut back on my meat eating lots. Used to be a bro needing to eat tons of protons, red meat, chicken etc. Thankfully science has shown we don't need as much protein as we thought. I've cut out red meat from my daily eating, limit myself to 3 oz of chicken or fish twice per day, and once a week or so I'll go out to eat and have a steak. I try to stay away from dairy as much as possible as well though for now I still consume eggs and Greek yogurt. I'll probably cut out meat completely after sometime if I feel like but for now I like how I'm slowly growing away from it instead of overnight.Side-effect, My skin has never been better. srs
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
He would make you gobble his vegan cawk if you both were locked in a prison cell together.
You can eat rat buttholes while on the sauce and be huge. Should I be impressed with his non natty physique?He would make you gobble his vegan cawk if you both were locked in a prison cell together.
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Originally Posted By Mehilove⏩
So?I've said it before in another thread,
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
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muscles and scallops and oysters are interesting
are they nonsentient organic life like plants or not
there is evidence for both sides
oyster farming is better for the environment and aside from the oysters has almost no impact on other life, much different than pure plant farming which is still quite imperfect
also i think you will find that most poor cultures around the world actually mostly eat vegetable food. meat is a privilege. it is weird that meat is cheaper in our society than ****ing vegetables.
are they nonsentient organic life like plants or not
there is evidence for both sides
oyster farming is better for the environment and aside from the oysters has almost no impact on other life, much different than pure plant farming which is still quite imperfect
also i think you will find that most poor cultures around the world actually mostly eat vegetable food. meat is a privilege. it is weird that meat is cheaper in our society than ****ing vegetables.
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Originally Posted By Mehilove⏩
What if I told you alot of Indians (especially Hindus) don't eat meat?Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
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Originally Posted By Mehilove⏩
I'm baffled how an individual can be as retarded as you.I've said it before in another thread,
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
Veganism IMO is a diet for the privileged. The only reason people are vegan in the west is because everything is available to them - want something vegan? No worries, just walk down the street and there you have a selection of vegan food. Is this possible in a developing country like India? Speaking from experience, No.
I don't think vegans have ever left their privileged lives and been to a place that: Rely on fish - near a coast, a developing country, anywhere rural (few hours outside of the city) or up north where you can't farm all year round.
Veganism isn't anti-meat eating but more anti-industrialization/ animal cruelty - which I completely understand.
You want "privilege?" Factory farmed meat is the biggest privilege in western society. You don't have to do any of the killing and cleaning of the animal, you just get to go to the grocery store and buy a piece of meat that's price is severely reduced from what it should cost due to massive government subsidization.
Also, how is this relevant in any way whatsoever to what vegans are arguing? You have options at your disposal that cause far less harm to animals and the environment than meat. Now, I'm not expecting your pea-brain to be able to comprehend any of this, but I look forward to your reply either way.
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who said I'm here to change anybody's mind? I'm actually here to take a massive **** on all you *******s that are disrespectful and ignorant, and don't know how to say anything other than a logical fallacy.
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Originally Posted By andishehhank⏩
Ok so care to address any of the specific arguments of veganism or are you just going to winge about "*******s being disrespectful and ignorant."who said I'm here to change anybody's mind? I'm actually here to take a massive **** on all you *******s that are disrespectful and ignorant, and don't know how to say anything other than a logical fallacy.
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being vegan is pointless if you dont care about animal rights
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
dude, ive been talking this for 2 days and that's not the first time ive talked about this with people or miscers. I usually don't want to talk about it because they will not listen. they even though I wasn't following my own advice until that ended up to me taking my avi as a before picture. if you don't want to listen to someone with a history of bad self control like me, don't. but once I get in shape, the advice is still correct and they still wouldn't listen and its not totally their faults because it is a secret.Ok so care to address any of the specific arguments of veganism or are you just going to winge about "*******s being disrespectful and ignorant."
06-25-2017, 08:40 PM
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human hunting is necessary for the eco-system to stay in motion, but ya industrial farming is horrendous.
IMO its best to go free range for meat or even better hunt it yourself.
on the morals aspect of it you can argue plant has life and even shows diferent defense mechanisms to not be eaten
IMO its best to go free range for meat or even better hunt it yourself.
on the morals aspect of it you can argue plant has life and even shows diferent defense mechanisms to not be eaten
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