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post 1509679841 06-25-2017, 04:58 PM
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Any meat eaters agree with vegans?

It actually makes much more sense to go vegan. I've watched Vegan Gains debate meat eaters and he destroys them every time.

The reason I don't go vegan is because it will make zero difference. If I decide not to go to the store and buy chicken breast, the chicken is still dead. The chicken breast will either be sold to somebody else or thrown away.

Ultimately it comes down to selfishness though. Meat just tastes too good and I don't want to give it up.
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Eat a balance of meat and veges.
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Ethics/Compassion... I would go vegan.

Health... I'm staying omnivore. I'm not convinced that I can be healthy, and get all of the nutrients that I need, on a vegan diet.

I tried it, and my stomach does not respond well to grains and legumes. (Constant bloating, which is a very bad sign.)

I eat a Paleo Diet.
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I am the same way as you. The chicken is already dead. I am just buying it. I also like the taste of meat. Would I go kill the chicken myself? I'd like to say no unless I absolutely had to eat something. Also, our world couldn't sustain itself if everyone were to eat meat. I'm going to enjoy the luxury of eating nonhuman meat while I still can...until overpopulation will force humans to be the only affordable meat source. After that it's every man for himself, but let's be honest I probably still wouldn't give up meat lol. gotta get dat protein somehow lmao
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Vegetarians have a valid argument IMO.

Veganism is just idiotic BRB can't drink milk...wat?
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You alone won't make a difference, but it adds up, if less people are buying it then less will be slaughtered. If all of the vegetarians and vegans in the world started eating animal products now way more would have to be made.

I can see vegetarians points, but not vegans.
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More meat for me
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Originally Posted By J90⏩
The reason I don't go vegan is because it will make zero difference. If I decide not to go to the store and buy chicken breast, the chicken is still dead. The chicken breast will either be sold to somebody else or thrown away.
Less demand = less supply.
You alone won't make a difference, but a movement can. Movements can be seen as individuals making a common choice, or having common values and beliefs.

Vegan choices in restaurants and supermarkets are common, largely due to veganism becoming a more popular choice.

Again, I'm an omnivore... But that kind of reasoning IMO is a poor argument for apathy.
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wtf, man animals don't have souls. that chicken im eating wouldn't have been created if we didn't breed it for food. Better to have lived a life to be killed than never to have lived at all.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
You alone won't make a difference, but it adds up, if less people are buying it then less will be slaughtered. If all of the vegetarians and vegans in the world started eating animal products now way more would have to be made.
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Originally Posted By Mr
Vegetarians have a valid argument IMO.

Veganism is just idiotic BRB can't drink milk...wat?
The dairy industry is pretty fuked up too the cows are inseminated constantly to keep them producing milk and the babys are slaughtered for veal

Im a vegetarian but I get my eggs locally from chickens that can actually run around and are humanely treated and I dont consume dairy
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Agree 100% with all arguments put forward by vegans/vegetarians. There are literally no justifications for eating meat from an ethical standpoint at all. My only issue right now is loving meat too much and being too selfish in that respect to cut it out completely, but I aim to do so gradually (hopefully by then, lab grown meat will be commercially available anyway).
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What's the argument? Yeah you COULD survive on a vegetarian diet but why deprive yourself. Might as well be environmental too... sell your car, ride a bike, take the bus, be frugal etc. Don't buy that iPhone either its made by Chinese slaves!!

I don't like animal cruelty either but its not going to stop and its extremely unrealistic to believe the entire world will switch off meat. Can't even get people to stop taking drugs how you think they can do it with meat? If you really want to make a difference then support companies that have a proven track record of raising animals fairly.
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The more people turn vegetarian the cheaper the meat would get! Awesome for me.
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
Agree 100% with all arguments put forward by vegans/vegetarians. There are literally no justifications for eating meat from an ethical standpoint at all. My only issue right now is loving meat too much and being too selfish in that respect to cut it out completely, but I aim to do so gradually (hopefully by then, lab grown meat will be commercially available anyway).
This. You got me fked up thinking imma give up my steaks and ribs just so a cow can live doing nothing.
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
Agree 100% with all arguments put forward by vegans/vegetarians. There are literally no justifications for eating meat from an ethical standpoint at all. My only issue right now is loving meat too much and being too selfish in that respect to cut it out completely, but I aim to do so gradually (hopefully by then, lab grown meat will be commercially available anyway).
theres a ton of promise with lab meat which is exciting. I loved meat, and still do but it seems extremely selfish that you can be just as healthy, if not more healthy eating a plant based diet but you choose to eat meat just bc it gives you pleasure and perpetuate the slaughtering of sentient beings that live chitty lives
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I'm a hunter and I love hunting.

I have a primal urge to shoot something whether its cutting a chickens head off, shooting a deer for meat, or filleting a fish. Cutting a fishes head off and filleting it or field dressing a deer and pulling out all it's internal organs satisfies a primal gene in my body, and it's a great feeling knowing I can pack a fridge full of fresh organic meat that I butchered myself.

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Originally Posted By KyBrah32⏩
The dairy industry is pretty fuked up too the cows are inseminated constantly to keep them producing milk and the babys are slaughtered for veal

Im a vegetarian but I get my eggs locally from chickens that can actually run around and are humanely treated and I dont consume dairy
Yeah I get it but it's not about the industry with vegans, it's on principle. You've cut out the inhumane industry but a vegan still won't eat those eggs. You have a rational stance based upon ethics, you have worked out how to eat eggs without supporting animals cruelty. Fine. Vegans won't eat eggs because they're vegan, which is retarded.

Here's another example, there is no ethical reason not to eat mussels and oysters, since their level of sentience is not really distinguishable from a tree. But that's a no go for people who won't eat meat or seafood.

I have no respect for illogical stances.
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
Agree 100% with all arguments put forward by vegans/vegetarians. There are literally no justifications for eating meat from an ethical standpoint at all. My only issue right now is loving meat too much and being too selfish in that respect to cut it out completely, but I aim to do so gradually (hopefully by then, lab grown meat will be commercially available anyway).
When lab grown meat is commercially available, that chit will change the world. If I'm plucking a number out my ass, I bet around 80% of meat eaters share your exact same view. You'll always get the dumbass rednecks "More meat for me!" - "Bacon Tho!" but I think lab meat would put the biggest dent in it.
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i like the way being vegetarian makes me feel but i can only do it for so long. did 26 months once and this last time was 16 months but i quit in april.
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Veganism is hands down the best topic out there for bringing out people's stupidity.
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
I'm a hunter and I love hunting.

I have a primal urge to shoot something whether its cutting a chickens head off, shooting a deer for meat, or filleting a fish. Cutting a fishes head off and filleting it or field dressing a deer and pulling out all it's internal organs satisfies a primal gene in my body, and it's a great feeling knowing I can pack a fridge full of fresh organic meat that I butchered myself.

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Originally Posted By KyBrah32⏩
Im a vegetarian but I get my eggs locally from chickens that can actually run around and are humanely treated and I dont consume dairy
That's what I'm more concerned about. That the animals are treated well.

I buy free range organic eggs, and if I could afford it I would buy free range organic meat to eat.
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Originally Posted By thebrainiac⏩
Veganism is hands down the best topic out there for bringing out people's stupidity.
Hopefully you're vegan. Otherwise that's the most ironic statement I've seen this year. (Coming from a meat-eater)
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I love meat. Meat is test.

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Originally Posted By J90⏩
Hopefully you're vegan. Otherwise that's the most ironic statement I've seen this year. (Coming from a meat-eater)
Yeah I'm vegan.

It's ****ing astounding how little your average person understands basic logic.
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Originally Posted By Mr
You have a rational stance based upon ethics, you have worked out how to eat eggs without supporting animals cruelty. Fine. Vegans won't eat eggs because they're vegan, which is retarded.
No, vegans won't eat eggs because male chicks, and non-productive hens, are killed.

Free range or not.
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Store bought vegetables and fruits are just as bad as buying meat the factory farming of that stuff still costs millions of animals their lives I.e tons of birds other wildlife killed by tractors combines ect
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Meat tastes too good sorry vegans

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Originally Posted By markduschane⏩
Store bought vegetables and fruits are just as bad as buying meat the factory farming of that stuff still costs millions of animals their lives I.e tons of birds other wildlife killed by tractors combines ect
Pretty sure something like 56 billion farmed animals are killed per year by humans. The millions killed by accident suddenly seems like a fraction.
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