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Thread: John McEnroe Won't Apologize For His Serena Williams Comments. Good, He Shouldn't.

post 1509992751 06-28-2017, 09:16 AM
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this is why society is ****ed

sexist to compare men and women because they are equal

wait wut?
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I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

Heh, well, that still a pathetic lift because Eddie Hall can pull 1,015lbs

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
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Ya gotta love McEnroe. The guy DGAF his whole life.

Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
She's 5'9" and easily 160 lbs. McEnroe, Agassi, Borg were about the same size. This isn't a lb for lb comparison.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

Heh, well, that still a pathetic lift because Eddie Hall can pull 1,015lbs

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
Can see what you are sayimg, and in his position he should have gone with the pc answer but the reported baited it out of him its not like he just said it out of context

She specifically said "best" which clearly no woman ever can be, if she said most accomished then there is a solid arguement to be had
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Then lets get this match on, id rather watch this than floyd v connor
you'd actually have 2 people trying to win and an end result instead of 2 guys playing the world for suckers to collect millions.
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post 1509993811 06-28-2017, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
you'd actually have 2 people trying to win and an end result instead of 2 guys playing the world for suckers to collect millions.
Exactly, i'd mainly be tuning in for the feminist tears at the end though
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
Hahahaha my dad KNOWS McEnroe. He's always been a loose cannon (and a terrible loser), not surprised he won't toe the line on gender politics. I don't see a thing wrong with telling it like it is. I mean, if sometime they want to have an exhibition match between Serena and a male player, similar to the Battle of the Sexes way back when, I'm sure it would bring a huge viewership and some $$$$$$! I'd watch.
women athletes will 99% decline this. Most are proud women who know they are good at what they do in THEIR sport. wnba, softball, soccer, etc. they are the best at that respective sport against women. that isnt a knock at all. thats incredible.


they arent as dumb as the femnazi's and other crying bitches that think "oh women can beat them ! they do it better !".


no. women cannot be better than men at some things. just like men cant be better than some women at certain things. it would be a mauling and a slap in the face to very talented women athletes.
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Well it's simple, have her play the top man in the world and lets see what happens.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Exactly, i'd mainly be tuning in for the feminist tears at the end though
what do you think would see greater anger and coping, that match or when Trump won?
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

Heh, well, that still a pathetic lift because Eddie Hall can pull 1,015lbs

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
I disagree on the fact that their are women (and some men) that believe that women could be dominate in the mens circuit. These are the same people that thought Ronda rousey could beat Floyd Mayweather when Rousey has the boxing game of a 9 year old.
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
He's right (well, maybe 700 is harsh, but definitely 200+), and you shouldn't have to apologise for facts.

That said I feel the same way whenever someone says midget boxer Floyd Mayweather is the GOAT boxer. If he's allowed to be the goat while fighting in a novelty division and with no chance against the better divisions, then it would be consistent to say Serena is the goat tennis player.
lol at idiots who always spew this nonsense. The lower divisions are often some of the most stacked and dangerous weight divisions. Floyd had absolutely a monster of competition at 130-135. 140-147 had the less but more threatening competition, but those divisions are stacked. 154 is also pretty stacked right now. And everything below 130. 160-168 are dead, and the only names at 175 are Kovalev and Ward. While the heavyweights (200+) only got a few names on top of stale competition. Just so easy to tell who's a real boxing fan who isn't, only a casual or non-boxing fan would make ignorant statements like this.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

Heh, well, that still a pathetic lift because Eddie Hall can pull 1,015lbs

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
the reporter was trying to get him to say serena is better than any man alive at tennis
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tennis isn't really important to me, but i like that SOMEONE is refusing to apologize in the face of mock outrage these days
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Well it's simple, have her play the top man in the world and lets see what happens.
Lol she already is on record saying she'd lose to andy murray in 5 mins without getting a point
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I don't understand why there even has to be a comparison at all. It's like they were pressing for it knowing the answer and wanting to hear it so they could all complain and cry sexism.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
tennis isn't really important to me, but i like that SOMEONE is refusing to apologize in the face of mock outrage these days
this. I could give a flying fornication about tennis but it is very refreshing to see him not back down from a comment that an interviewer basically made him answer.
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Originally Posted By velvetmudhole⏩
I don't understand why there even has to be a comparison at all. It's like they were pressing for it knowing the answer and wanting to hear it so they could all complain and cry sexism.
I agree its dumb, it was the reporter unprofessionally pushing her femenist values onto him

Womens tennis is a great sport in its own right, it certainly much rather watch serena play than the 700th man even if he is better
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this whole thing is fukkin insane. it's not even like he randomly came out and said it (which would have been fine), it was a question that he just responded to.

that being said, this could all just be a publicity stunt. inb4 another man vs. woman match.
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Originally Posted By 300BLK⏩
lol at idiots who always spew this nonsense. The lower divisions are often some of the most stacked and dangerous weight divisions. Floyd had absolutely a monster of competition at 130-135. 140-147 had the less but more threatening competition, but those divisions are stacked. 154 is also pretty stacked right now. And everything below 130. 160-168 are dead, and the only names at 175 are Kovalev and Ward. While the heavyweights (200+) only got a few names on top of stale competition. Just so easy to tell who's a real boxing fan who isn't, only a casual or non-boxing fan would make ignorant statements like this.
how can he be considered the best if an average 180 pounder would murder him? it's the same concept
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
how can he be considered the best if an average 180 pounder would murder him? it's the same concept
I agree he can be the best pound for pound, the best at his weight or greatest boxer as in most accomplished but he will never be the best boxer
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lold, he's right and these feminists need to stfu, she and her sister already played like the number 600 ranked guy and got rekt back to back, and he drank beers and smoked cigarettes between sets while it happened.
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy⏩
this whole thing is fukkin insane. it's not even like he randomly came out and said it (which would have been fine), it was a question that he just responded to.

that being said, this could all just be a publicity stunt. inb4 another man vs. woman match.
Nobody would agree to that. Serena and Venus already got their asses kicked by a cold, buzzed, sub-200 player who hit the link and ripped cigs before the back-to-back matches. Hell, just watch NCAA men's and pro women's side by side, you can see just how much slower the latter is.
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Just look at this witch hunt, trying to bait him and talk down to him, he was literally asked a question and answered truthfully and now they're all crying about it, MSM is a joke

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The sad thing him saying 700th was generous, in reality she likely wouldn't be in the top 2000 (srs)
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Originally Posted By FearThisjake⏩
To be honest, male college tennis players are better than the elite women tennis players of today.

It's just apples and oranges. It's not a slight on women, it's just the differences between sexes.
What's so hard to get about this? Although McEnroe may just be in it to boost his publicity?
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I think what he said was just in bad taste. Of course they're not going to be better than professional men that play the sport. Thats like seeing some 5'5 150lb powerlifter pulling 600lbs and saying;

Heh, well, that still a pathetic lift because Eddie Hall can pull 1,015lbs

I mean, why would you even say that unless you were intentionally trying to be a douchbag?
He had just said she was the greatest women's player in history and its not close. He was paying her a compliment. Then the reporter went fishing.
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Originally Posted By KRANE⏩
What's so hard to get about this? Although McEnroe may just be in it to boost his publicity?
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this is why society is ****ed

sexist to compare men and women because they are equal

wait wut?
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Wouldnt it be an insult to the dudes ranked about 700 to say serena could beat them. So much double standard n the criticism of mcenroe
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Liberal thinking:

>men and women are equal

>its sexist to compare men and women on an equal playing field
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