i haven't been to the doctors for 10 years so i'm not talking from personal experience but just the general vibe these guys are putting out

are you really trying to tell me what doctors go through to get their credentials is tough? if these guys were doing 90hrs of manual labour i would be impressed but walking around with a clipboard and saying hello to the odd sick person is not at all demanding

retard confirmed

are you really trying to tell me that all med students do is walk around with a clipboard?

med students probably read more in a week than you've read in your entire life.

This thread serves as a centerhub for insecure autists to feel better about themselves by ragging on a prestigious profession.

Many of the opinions shared in here are 100% wrong. If being a doctor is so easy, then someone needs to explain why the average accepted MD GPA is significantly higher than the average college graduate GPA. Lets now factor in the grade deflation within science undergrads (which make up a majority of accepted MD students) and the grade inflation with easy undergrads (4.0 English).

Going off academic preformance alone, the average MD acceptee is literally smarter than the average U.S. college graduate.

So you want to pay much higher taxes to fund more physician training and services?

Your level of knowledge on healthcare is so severely lacking (srs) it would take weeks for you to even scratch the tip of the iceberg. That's not an insult, it's just that most people are clueless on how the system works.

retard confirmed

are you really trying to tell me that all med students do is walk around with a clipboard?

med students probably read more in a week than you've read in your entire life.

This thread serves as a centerhub for insecure autists to feel better about themselves by ragging on a prestigious profession.

Many of the opinions shared in here are 100% wrong. If being a doctor is so easy, then someone needs to explain why the average accepted MD GPA is significantly higher than the average college graduate GPA. Lets now factor in the grade deflation within science undergrads (which make up a majority of accepted MD students) and the grade inflation with easy undergrads (4.0 English).

Going off academic preformance alone, the average MD acceptee is literally smarter than the average U.S. college graduate.

This.

We still need them to get us prescription drugs though. That's literally their only use at this point

I will admit I don't know how they diagnose nowadays but I mean...just learning etiology of diseases is insane

You have to know diseases and what caused them, and then all of the bodily processes going on at the same time..

And then administer medicine which is dealing with all of the aforementioned points..and on top of this, your patient could die if you give them the wrong thing

Pretty nuts.I think a lot of med school has to do with pharmaceutical drugs

Nope it's not. In fact it's probably the one thing that is severely under-covered in med courses. You pretty much end up learning a **** load (doses etc) on the job as an intern.

because reading is tough and super taxing on the body dude, in fact i need to take a power nap to regenerate all the lost energy it took to read this thread, so exhausted...

huh? read what Hardlifter9 wrote, there is literally a government orchestrated restriction to the supply of doctors, this profession is being artificially propped up by maintaining it's exclusivity so pay and employment remains stable and lucrative whereas in other disciplines schools just keep pumping out graduates despite there already being a glut of them which industry can't absorb, i.e accountants, engineers etc

You a nurse or doc?

I got as far as microbiology and I'm still fairly close to a bio degree

My cc has a pretty good nursing program so our micro was heavily dependent on prescription drugs. My lab was a research lab where we tested soil samples of whatever we wanted to create new medicine

I had just always heard that med school was mainly about pharma drugs

Sidenote: I remember us having to study about 30 strains of bacteria that all caused "stomach pain"/ "nausea"

Can't imagine how much chit is out there

Depends, both my shoulder doctor and my foot surgeon are awesome, both very knowledgeable and actually listen to my input. The large majority of doctors I've visited though have sucked,the biggest thing being they didn't seem to care about my input on what I was going through.Came off to me as either they have no clue what they're doing or thought they didn't have to listen to anything the patient has to say because they have a formal title.

The restriction of supply is there to keep sick people alive and so we don't have a bunch of dumb people getting into medicine because anyone can do it. Additionally if you increase the supply of medical graduates, not only are you reducing the quality of doctors (which is already bad enough according to this thread), you will inevitably reduce the wages and hence the number of people that want to become doctors, therefore leading to even dumber people becoming doctors and everyone ****ing dying because the doctors are all ****.

How the phuck is this not obvious?

Not respecting doctors / people thinking they know better because they read some **** on google etc. = massive signs that someone is well below average intelligence

Just from personal experience

doctors are not special people. they just tell you what they learned in school. if I could lobby the people that provide the info for the text books, I could get medical school to teach students that eating feces is better food.

why do I say this? because doctors learn in school that saturated fat and cholesterol in more than low amounts causes heart disease, and its not true. doctors don't think for themselves, and are taught the wrong info in school, and that's why I didn't become one.

I have been negged by a doctor for saying this before, and shame on him, because hes getting outsmarted by a poor lad like me.

fukn hate this stupid logic. yes things are wrong sometimes,but you acting as if medical advancements and doctors treating their patients based on those research/advances hasnt helped the human civilisation immensely

honestly this thread really does show how insecure and small minded many miscers are. pathetic individuals.

fukn hate this stupid logic. yes things are wrong sometimes, but you acting as if medical advancements and doctors treating their patients based on those research/advances hasnt helped the human civilisation immensely

honestly this thread really does show how insecure and small minded many miscers are. pathetic individuals.

I have worked in healthcare for decades and hate doctors.

I think most are stupid, just go to the first explanation they can think of, or charlatans.

doctors are not special people. they just tell you what they learned in school. if I could lobby the people that provide the info for the text books, I could get medical school to teach students that eating feces is better food.

why do I say this? because doctors learn in school that saturated fat and cholesterol in more than low amounts causes heart disease, and its not true. doctors don't think for themselves, and are taught the wrong info in school, and that's why I didn't become one.

I have been negged by a doctor for saying this before, and shame on him, because hes getting outsmarted by a poor lad like me.

changing my argument to another argument that you can easily defeat is called a "straw man." miscers do it all the time, and I'm not going to bite.

I have no respect for doctors.... anyone with any sort of ailment can know more than A GP within a couple of hours of reading up on their ailment.

The real miracle of modern medicine is all the machines and diagnosis equipment built by engineers.

Doctors are little more than witch doctors without chemists and engineers.

They have the highest IQ average amongst any profession. It's extremely competitive to get into medical school, arguably more than any other academic profession. Google your way out of your brain tumor or stroke etc. etc. The one time you need a doctor, you'll be glad that guy went through 10+ years of academic and clinical work to be able to help you. There are limitations in medicine based on the current understanding of medical research. The wikipedia aspect of criticism can be said for any career. We are all learning other peoples research at the end of the day. Engineers are learning from professors and books that were compiled by research conducted by thousands of professionals over the years. The purpose of medical school and residency is to train someone to be able to integrate that information and to apply what is most important at the appropriate times. If you have this logic of criticism for medical professionals, that same logic can be applied to almost any career path. The medical doctor isn't so much paid for his sheer knowledge but rather the art of being able to make sense of that knowledge because research is always adding to the medical sciences. You are a lifelong student in essence. So you have to have a deep understanding of the specific field you are in - in order to keep adapting and making sense of new research or even being a part of that new research. Like an ER patient that walks in with symptoms of a stroke - you have seconds to decide what to do otherwise that patient will die or will have permanent neurological consequences. You can't wikipedia yourself out of that situation. Stereotyping a general surgeon as the only doctor of praise is complete bull**** too. He wouldn't know what surgery he was doing if it wasn't for the team of various doctors that referred the patient to the stage of needing surgery in the first place. It's 2017. Very rarely is one discipline of medicine completely managing a critically ill patient. Being in the career, I respect the general practioners the most who have to have acumen to be able to distinguish between someone who has a benign vs serious-life threatening illness when any vague symptom to could mean anything. Good fatigue, you can have differentials ranging from simple lack of sleep or nutrional deficiencies all the way to leukemias and various other carcinomas. You need extensive training to be able to prevent a serious disorder from reaching it's full potential.

Lol. Self righteous prick.
People like you don't give a **** about anyone. Let's see i'd you would be a doctor if you pay was capped at 60k a year.

Scum like you sell your soul for profit.

Doctors fail miserably at catching early disease states. You stupid puck, you think a doctor is going to be around when someone is getting a heart attack or stroke? I actually had a room full of doctors ignore my families concerns that my grandfather suffered a stroke. They ignored it and later found it he did have one.

You ever been in a real we room? Don't you see what the doctors are doing? Nothing, other than talking ****, dragging their feet, and robbing the 99% for their "services."

You deserve to for in he'll, you and all those ducking money hungry parasites.

I personally know 2 people that became doctors that were dumb arrogant idiots. Average gpa and average mcat. Stop spreading lies that medical school is hard to get into...its not, it's just that space is limited because you ducking kings want to artificially inflate your salary with a low supply of doctors.

You are a disgusting piece of animal s.h.i.t

That's not the issue with that kind of thinking. The issue is that people literally think all doctors have to do is remember some symptoms and treatment that they rote learned or can look up in their sources and that's their job done, and they have no idea how complex and interwoven human physiology and pharmacology is. No appreciation for the complexity of all the factors that go into keeping someone alive, eg. history, renal function, hepatic function, immunology, concurrent pharmacological therapy, psychological issues etc. etc. If all you had to do was remember facts then a computer could do your job. These are the people who are lucky doctors exist to save them from their own stupidity.

...if all the GP's went extinct we'd still survive.

If all the people they refer us to went extinct...we'd all be real fukd.

Lol. Self righteous prick.
People like you don't give a **** about anyone. Let's see i'd you would be a doctor if you pay was capped at 60k a year.

Scum like you sell your soul for profit.

Doctors fail miserably at catching early disease states. You stupid puck, you think a doctor is going to be around when someone is getting a heart attack or stroke? I actually had a room full of doctors ignore my families concerns that my grandfather suffered a stroke. They ignored it and later found it he did have one.

You ever been in a real we room? Don't you see what the doctors are doing? Nothing, other than talking ****, dragging their feet, and robbing the 99% for their "services."

You deserve to for in he'll, you and all those ducking money hungry parasites.

I personally know 2 people that became doctors that were dumb arrogant idiots. Average gpa and average mcat. Stop spreading lies that medical school is hard to get into...its not, it's just that space is limited because you ducking kings want to artificially inflate your salary with a low supply of doctors.

You are a disgusting piece of animal s.h.i.t

Yeah I felt great googling to find that gif, and I'll feel great when I google what to do tomorrow when I see my patients too man. Then I'll get in my Porsche, then Google my way to my house.

Trolls. I have taken medical school courses as part of my SMP degree.Medical schools focus on teaching future doctors to critically think based off of facts backed by metadata analysis (highest form of evidence). I'm an honors grad biochemist and competent specialists are many orders of magnitude above me with their level of knowledge.You, by comparison, are many orders of magnitude below even my knowledge.

It's no surprise you're this willfully ignorant. You literally know nothing.