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post 1515871621 08-16-2017, 10:29 AM
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So, the Govx sale was nothing mind-blowing. The waiting continues...
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post 1515872151 08-16-2017, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Mortar34
All Beretta 92 fanboys. I mean they're great guns, I have several myself...but they all only like hammer fired, all metal guns.

But wait a minute, when Beretta intro'd the APX this year, suddenly there was a common ground, lol. "But this one has Italian sex appeal!"


It's just typical Glock hate. They're all really good, smart, gun loving people....but they lose their total chit when someone dares utter the "G" word.
The APX is literally eye cancer. I am disgusted every time I see it posted anywhere.

If anything CZ has made the best poly competitor for Glock from any company. I need to actually shoot one, but if it's anything like my Duty I'm sold.

As much as I hate to say it the MP 2.0 feels tst as well after doing a transfer for a guy a couple weeks ago.
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i fukkin decked my p320c out- FDE frame, APEX trigger, Talon grip, and still ended up getting rid of it and putting it towards a VP9 (way better)

only felt 'fine' because the beavertail. outside of that, looking down the sights it was like looking down an upward rectangle with the bore so high lol fuggin awkward.

THEN GLAWK CAME BACK INTO MY LIFE
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Originally Posted By hutch1999
The APX is literally eye cancer. I am disgusted every time I see it posted anywhere.

If anything CZ has made the best poly competitor for Glock from any company. I need to actually shoot one, but if it's anything like my Duty I'm sold.

As much as I hate to say it the MP 2.0 feels tst as well after doing a transfer for a guy a couple weeks ago.
I've heard the same about the M&P 2.0. The first M&P's had the worst trigger of any legacy fireworks manufacturer I've ever seen.

And wtf at me not owning a single CZ yet, ever? I'm a half assed mf sometimes.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
I don't prefer any of the factory night sights anyway, I have always put my preference of night sights on so I would rather buy the pistol with cheap plastic sights that don't add to the cost of the gun and are very easy to take off (Ameriglo Operator Pro in the past, Trijicon HD now).

The 'feel' of the gun is entirely subjective and will vary from person to person, and I'm sure what you are used to will be a factor, but I HATED the way the P320 shot. I shot it back to back with a couple Glocks and I forget either an FNS or a VP9, but the Sig was the only one that pointed and shot like ****...the FNS, Glock, VP9, Shield, an M&P I shot, all pointed and shot fine (though the M&P Trigger was aids). The 320 was just plain wrong. But I was used to all those other polymer pistols, if you went in cold without enough experience to matter on the others and shot the 320 first, it might be the opposite.

Specifically the 320 I rented pointed so low I couldn't see the front sight when I presented the pistol, whereas all those others went pretty much on target with the sights lined up one the same as the other, or close enough. Trigger was nothing special either, and the dimensions of the grip vs slide and the balance just felt stupid.
yeah that's what I thought as well (for the sights), you can get the glock for cheaper usually and add night sights and it'll still come out cheaper or same price.

The second thing is actually what you mentioned, the trigger is what people say feels better, that's what second point was.

I submitted the GSSF membership, I should have it within a week and half - 2 weeks, then I'll see what the new thing coming out late august is and purchase accordingly.

If you still couldn't find a blue label dealer around you, GT (I believe they're in Georgia) whom is the company allowing people to pre order what is supposedly gen 5 glock, allow online orders using the GSSF coupon so there's always that option. Their prices for glock gen 4 with night sights and 3 mags is 455.. what a steal.
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Originally Posted By Meatie
i fukkin decked my p320c out- FDE frame, APEX trigger, Talon grip, and still ended up getting rid of it and putting it towards a VP9 (way better)

only felt 'fine' because the beavertail. outside of that, looking down the sights it was like looking down an upward rectangle with the bore so high lol fuggin awkward.

THEN GLAWK CAME BACK INTO MY LIFE
lol'd at (way better)

Meatie twists the knife into the sig boyos a little further
Originally Posted By Mortar34
I've heard the same about the M&P 2.0. The first M&P's had the worst trigger of any legacy fireworks manufacturer I've ever seen.

And wtf at me not owning a single CZ yet, ever? I'm a half assed mf sometimes.
I shoot my Duty better than any other poly gun I own. Based CZ makes some awesome weapons.
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post 1515873861 08-16-2017, 10:49 AM
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One of my local dealers started doing blue label, they have some on display now and say they can order. I was kind of surprised, when I called around the first time they said they were working on it...almost expected it to never happen but they came through..

They also have very fair prices for an LGS. Like, Gen4 Glocks tagged at $550 and Gen3 at $500.
post 1515875761 08-16-2017, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz
If you've seen the latest GoT episode, look at these images in the spoiler tags, fukin lol'd hard

Spoiler!

Click link to album, make sure you view all 40+ images it goes through the whole episode. Worth it for the lulz

http://imgur.com/gallery/HQhya
ha, this was great.
Originally Posted By Farley1324
Home gym crew is best crew **** that noise
Are you doing all workouts in your home now? Still have a gym membership? Feel you're able to hit everything you need to, or still feel like you're missing some stuff?

Just starting to get a small set put together in my garage and it's kinda neat knowing I'll be able to hit it whenever I want out there, but thinking I might wind up missing having certain cables or machines, especially on back work.
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post 1515877701 08-16-2017, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
Are you doing all workouts in your home now? Still have a gym membership? Feel you're able to hit everything you need to, or still feel like you're missing some stuff?

Just starting to get a small set put together in my garage and it's kinda neat knowing I'll be able to hit it whenever I want out there, but thinking I might wind up missing having certain cables or machines, especially on back work.
No gym membership.

I'm not missing anything Ineedas I've never done very many different things. Power rack, bar, plates, bench, room to put the bar overhead, a little floorspace outside the rack, chin-up bar built into rack, and some cheap ($60/pair or less) olympic DB handles good enough for DB rows and the like covers all of the basic movements. All of the variations of squats, deads, bench, press, rows, olympic movements, chins/pull-ups, and all the iso exercises you can do with basic free weights.

But due to space and $ restrictions it's hard to get all of that covered and also have anything for cable/pulley machines, GHR, back extensions, rower/bike/elliptical/treadmill, and other stuff depending on how well equipped the gym you compare to is (fancy stuff like tires, prowler, rope climb, all the other machines etc)

Back work you can pretty simply cover all the deadlifts, BB rows, DB rows, landmine/t-bar rows, bands for pull aparts and face pulls, pull-ups, chin-ups
post 1515879251 08-16-2017, 11:26 AM
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Wanted to snag a Keltec PMR30 but they are all allocated
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post 1515879631 08-16-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
Are you doing all workouts in your home now? Still have a gym membership? Feel you're able to hit everything you need to, or still feel like you're missing some stuff?

Just starting to get a small set put together in my garage and it's kinda neat knowing I'll be able to hit it whenever I want out there, but thinking I might wind up missing having certain cables or machines, especially on back work.
With the proper equipment and a training routine that focuses around major compound lifts with dumbbell accessory lifts you don't miss hitting anything.
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post 1515880571 08-16-2017, 11:35 AM
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Don't see how a garage gym is possible without a three-car garage.

Mine is a detached two-car garage. After installiing a work bench, bike racks, and shelves and and cabinets; leaving room for patio furniture and grills for when a hurricane blows through, and parking my wife's car in there, there's no workout space available.

But lettuce beef real tea, I ain't gunna lift in a hot south Florida garage even if I was a rich ******* with a four-car garage.
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
Don't see how a garage gym is possible without a three-car garage.

Mine is a detached two-car garage. After installiing a work bench, bike racks, and shelves and and cabinets; leaving room for patio furniture and grills for when a hurricane blows through, and parking my wife's car in there, there's no workout space available.

But lettuce beef real tea, I ain't gunna lift in a hot south Florida garage even if I was a rich ******* with a four-car garage.
Park a car in the driveway. Don't have bike racks and shelves and cabinets and patio furniture and grills in your gym lol

Would put portable A/C in garage gym window (plus high velocity fan) in south FL
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another outside of the gun related topic, but guys when you were younger and had to figure out/make life choices and wanted to get advice from someone older or more knowledgable, who would you go to?

srs. It's about a career, I'm not sure if I want this but at this point it may be worth it. I've spoken to the pops (it's business related) and he says he refuses to give me the keys for me to make a living while my life is on the line.
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post 1515881951 08-16-2017, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By blumpkin415
Wanted to snag a Keltec PMR30 but they are all allocated
$360 at PSA, I have no idea if that's a good deal

http://palmettostatearmory.com/kel-t...-wm-black.html
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
Don't see how a garage gym is possible without a three-car garage.

Mine is a detached two-car garage. After installiing a work bench, bike racks, and shelves and and cabinets; leaving room for patio furniture and grills for when a hurricane blows through, and parking my wife's car in there, there's no workout space available.

But lettuce beef real tea, I ain't gunna lift in a hot south Florida garage even if I was a rich ******* with a four-car garage.
they make special folding racks

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-r...xoC2wMQAvD_BwE


Also hurricanes are pretty predictable lol. I would just make space before it got to me to store the car.
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post 1515883301 08-16-2017, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By hutch1999
they make special folding racks

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-r...xoC2wMQAvD_BwE


Also hurricanes are pretty predictable lol. I would just make space before it got to me to store the car.
A half rack with safety spotter arms that obviously just lift/slot on and off would definitely be the choice if space was extremely limited/you wanted to be able to use that space for other things from time to time, like hurricane storage. Mount to wall type or bolt to floor type even would still yield a lot of space when wanted

Whenever we get into our next house I'm hoping to find room to expand my rack into a 6 post with plate storage hnnnggg
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa
another outside of the gun related topic, but guys when you were younger and had to figure out/make life choices and wanted to get advice from someone older or more knowledgable, who would you go to?
When I was younger, and undecided about what tf to do with my life, I enlisted in the Air Force.

No ragrets.

You should talk to a recruiter about a medical occupation.
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Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
When I was younger, and undecided about what tf to do with my life, I enlisted in the Air Force.

No ragrets.



You should talk to a recruiter about a medical occupation.
Wouldn't I need a degree in medicine first though? Or are you talking about using my bachelors for officers work?
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier
$360 at PSA, I have no idea if that's a good deal

http://palmettostatearmory.com/kel-t...-wm-black.html
Dealer cost is $274

And they are allocated at all distributors

Yet PSA has enough of them to do a blast sale

hmmm.
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Plus with a home gym you can misc on your laptop while listening to your own music selection (no headphones) during your workout, while using your own throne for that pre workout dump no matter the timing...and lol at towels holding equipment or waiting for the guy curling in the squat rack
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
No gym membership.

I'm not missing anything Ineedas I've never done very many different things. Power rack, bar, plates, bench, room to put the bar overhead, a little floorspace outside the rack, chin-up bar built into rack, and some cheap ($60/pair or less) olympic DB handles good enough for DB rows and the like covers all of the basic movements. All of the variations of squats, deads, bench, press, rows, olympic movements, chins/pull-ups, and all the iso exercises you can do with basic free weights.

But due to space and $ restrictions it's hard to get all of that covered and also have anything for cable/pulley machines, GHR, back extensions, rower/bike/elliptical/treadmill, and other stuff depending on how well equipped the gym you compare to is (fancy stuff like tires, prowler, rope climb, all the other machines etc)

Back work you can pretty simply cover all the deadlifts, BB rows, DB rows, landmine/t-bar rows, bands for pull aparts and face pulls, pull-ups, chin-ups
Originally Posted By hutch1999
With the proper equipment and a training routine that focuses around major compound lifts with dumbbell accessory lifts you don't miss hitting anything.
I haven't done deadlifts since I injured my back a while ago. But I used to like doing a lot of the Hammer Strength machines or cables on back day. Once I get a pull up bar in there it might not be too bad between pull ups, close chin ups, barbell row, t-bar row, dumbbell row.
Originally Posted By Rajeev762x39
Don't see how a garage gym is possible without a three-car garage.

Mine is a detached two-car garage. After installiing a work bench, bike racks, and shelves and and cabinets; leaving room for patio furniture and grills for when a hurricane blows through, andparking my wife's car in there, there's no workout space available.

But lettuce beef real tea, I ain't gunna lift in a hot south Florida garage even if I was a rich ******* with a four-car garage.
Well there's your problem. I've never parked my vehicles in my garage. Would prefer a 3 car at least, but I'm getting by with the 2 car garage.



The rack is kinda lame, but it (and everything else) was free, so it works for now. I'll eventually put a full cage in there I think. And I'll need to get a rubber mat or flooring for setting stuff down, etc.
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Garage gym is in my future. I don't know if I'll be able to contain my excitement if I find a property with a garageanda basement.
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[QUOTE=SpeedCheeser post_id=1515886291]I haven't done deadlifts since I injured my back a while ago. But I used to like doing a lot of the Hammer Strength machines or cables on back day. Once I get a pull up bar in there it might not be too bad between pull ups, close chin ups, barbell row, t-bar row, dumbbell row.



Well there's your problem. I've never parked my vehicles in my garage. Would prefer a 3 car at least, but I'm getting by with the 2 car garage.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/E4KgdsA.jpg[img]

The rack is kinda lame, but it (and everything else) was free, so it works for now. I'll eventually put a full cage in there I think. And I'll need to get a rubber mat or flooring for setting stuff down, etc.[/QUOTE]
You need a power rack or squat rack so you can squat, and for safety pins for bench. Craigslist and wait, or you can get adequate new for $310 shipped on Amazon.

Tractor Supply Company or equivalent for horse stall matts. 4 foot by 6 foot, 3/4 thick rubber, durable as all ****ing hell, about $40 or so each I think with tax usually, probably want 3-4
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[QUOTE=blumpkin415 post_id=1515885221]Dealer cost is $274

And they are allocated at all distributors

Yet PSA has enough of them to do a blast sale

hmmm.[/QUOTE]You know all the distributors just fuking thirst over dealing with PSA. I'm assuming PSA deals directly with the Sales Managers to hard to find things and the best prices.


[QUOTE=Farley1324 post_id=1515885531]Plus with a home gym you can misc on your laptop while listening to your own music selection (no headphones) during your workout, while using your own throne for that pre workout dump no matter the timing...and lol at towels holding equipment or waiting for the guy curling in the squat rack[/QUOTE]Can confirm. Home gym misc dance party.

[QUOTE=SpeedCheeser post_id=1515886291]I haven't done deadlifts since I injured my back a while ago. But I used to like doing a lot of the Hammer Strength machines or cables on back day. Once I get a pull up bar in there it might not be too bad between pull ups, close chin ups, barbell row, t-bar row, dumbbell row.



Well there's your problem. I've never parked my vehicles in my garage. Would prefer a 3 car at least, but I'm getting by with the 2 car garage.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/E4KgdsA.jpg[img]

The rack is kinda lame, but it (and everything else) was free, so it works for now. I'll eventually put a full cage in there I think. And I'll need to get a rubber mat or flooring for setting stuff down, etc.[/QUOTE]Not a bad free setup bro. I got a spare rack, bar, and 300lbs of plates for free to go alone with my rack/plates/bb I already had.

Here was my setup prior to moving in 2015

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Scg_VhSIUzs[/youtube]
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
You need a power rack or squat rack so you can squat, and for safety pins for bench. Craigslist and wait, or you can get adequate new for $310 shipped on Amazon.

Tractor Supply Company or equivalent for horse stall matts. 4 foot by 6 foot, 3/4 thick rubber, durable as all ****ing hell, about $40 or so each I think with tax usually, probably want 3-4
Doesn't sound bad at all.

I agree, I eventually want a full rack with safety pins. For the most part I should be able to get by for a little while. GF will usually be around if I need a spot. And the rack goes up to squat heights just fine, but it's unstable at its lowest setting, so it will be interesting to see how well it works up at squat heights. lol.

Thanks for the tip on the horse stall mats too. I'll look into that.
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Originally Posted By hutch1999
Not a bad free setup bro. I got a spare rack, bar, and 300lbs of plates for free to go alone with my rack/plates/bb I already had.

Here was my setup prior to moving in 2015

Mirin.

And yeah, it should do for now. I think another set of olympic size 45s and another pair of smaller bar 25s so I can get a pair of dumbbells with some decent weight on them and I should be able to do a pretty significant amount of work in there, and just build on it as I go.
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While we are on the topic if you want a usable bar that's inexpensive, new without hunting craiglist or the like, get a Cap OB-86B from Amazon or ship-to-store Walmart. Should be $140 total cost or less
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Originally Posted By hutch1999
You know all the distributors just fuking thirst over dealing with PSA. I'm assuming PSA deals directly with the Sales Managers to hard to find things and the best prices.

I mean, if I was selling to a big company that is interested in something I have and want them to continue dealing with me, I'd given them 20 - 30 dollars cheaper stuff if I'll be making 50+ on stuff they wanted. This is a package deal kind of scenario.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
While we are on the topic if you want a usable bar that's inexpensive, new without hunting craiglist or the like, get a Cap OB-86B from Amazon or ship-to-store Walmart. Should be $140 total cost or less
Will keep that in mind. Another buddy just gave me a like new black coated bar as well.
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