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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXVIII: A Bridge Too Farley

post 1517202151 08-24-2017, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
No hollow points either, right....?
Hollow point usage is allowed by "sportsman".
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Isn't 15 rounds the max capacity in NJ anyway?
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
No hollow points either, right....?
I think it's along the lines of you can have them . . . but can't ever really use them for anything other than target practice. Unless you are a LEO, because they deserve more 2A rights than the rest of us.
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I love how ESPN has become the new CNN of the Sports World the past several years. But I turned it to SportsCenter this morning while getting dressed because I didn't want to watch the other news shows bashing Trump.

The story they ran with was the 'Rally for ****n Kaepernick' at the NFL headquarters. Gotta love how we rally to get statues removed and now we have people rallying to get a ******* QB that isn't any good to make a team. Our country is seriously screwed.


EDIT: LOL @ his name being censored. In before this is news.
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Funny how JHP's in a handgun have been pigeon-holed as a weapon of mass destruction. Weren't they developed as a means to mitigate collateral damage due to over penetration?

When you're talking about handgun rounds, the wound channel between ball and JHP isn't radically different. A lot of people use ball for defense ammo because they want the additional penetration anyway.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
I love how ESPN has become the new CNN of the Sports World the past several years. But I turned it to SportsCenter this morning while getting dressed because I didn't want to watch the other news shows bashing Trump.

The story they ran with was the 'Rally for ****n Kaepernick' at the NFL headquarters. Gotta love how we rally to get statues removed and now we have people rallying to get a ******* QB that isn't any good to make a team. Our country is seriously screwed.


EDIT: LOL @ his name being censored. In before this is news.
lmao...Just call him Colon Kaepernick because he's a piece of chit anyway.
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
When you're talking about handgun rounds, the wound channel between ball and JHP isn't radically different. A lot of people use ball for defense ammo because they want the additional penetration anyway.
In rounds like .380, yes. A lot of people use FMJ.

But for 9mm, etc? Yeah...no. Today's hollow points are damn good and offer significant advantages to stopping a threat over FMJ.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
I love how ESPN has become the new CNN of the Sports World the past several years. But I turned it to SportsCenter this morning while getting dressed because I didn't want to watch the other news shows bashing Trump.

The story they ran with was the 'Rally for ****n Kaepernick' at the NFL headquarters. Gotta love how we rally to get statues removed and now we have people rallying to get a ******* QB that isn't any good to make a team. Our country is seriously screwed.


EDIT: LOL @ his name being censored. In before this is news.
Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
lmao...Just call him Colon Kaepernick because he's a piece of chit anyway.
I hope someone does pick him up...he's getting off too easy. If i was his blind side guard/tackle i would turn my shoulders and let some 330 lb d-lineman break him in half.
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Originally Posted By GM54⏩
Bout to pull the trigger on a glock 19 or 17. Cant decide which. 19 smaller and more compact, 17 fits better in my hands. In NJ, CC is not option so having something super compact isn't really important
I went with the 19 because the cap for mags in NJ is 15, so I won't have to mess with the mags at all. Same thing stopping me from getting a Shadow 2, I just can't be bothered messing with the mags. Keep in mind that the Dem candidate for the election this fall is against guns pretty much, so I wouldn't go crazy buying mags in case they make the cap smaller. Where do you shoot usually?
Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
No hollow points either, right....?
Hollow points are fine, just same rules for transport as firearms. Locked away in the trunk or whatever and you can only transport them to and from the range.

You can use them for home defense iirc
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
lol

My uncle showed up at my house during my lunch break, apparently bought a very similar truck to yours. 1 ton, same white, with the duramax. The thing is awesome inside and out. A lot more quiet than I was expecting but still sounded nice.
This new engine is actually a bit louder than the previous LML duramax. Its nice as it actually sounds like a diesel.
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I'll own either an older Jeep or an older Bronco someday . . . maybe when the kids go off to college.
I want one of the Army surplus diesel 2 door blazers. GOAT winter beater
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Looks exactly the same as previous glocks
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Just ordered Ruger LC9s Pro (no safety), two extra mags, and a hybrid IWB holster.

Gun is through Gallery of Guns.

Now I'm headed outside for some jump rope to burn off this excitement.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
I love how ESPN has become the new CNN of the Sports World the past several years. But I turned it to SportsCenter this morning while getting dressed because I didn't want to watch the other news shows bashing Trump.

The story they ran with was the 'Rally for ****n Kaepernick' at the NFL headquarters. Gotta love how we rally to get statues removed and now we have people rallying to get a ******* QB that isn't any good to make a team. Our country is seriously screwed.


EDIT: LOL @ his name being censored. In before this is news.
Wonder if ****n Kaepernick owns a ****meter to track his steps while he's unemployed?
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
So windowed 25rd SR25 PMags are not being given away anywhere? How unfortunate.

I'd like to keep the mag from hanging down below the action too much, and am less interested in the window than in having ~8 mags if I can sell these at $40 shipped.
Google the word "almost", read the definition, and then consider how it applies to my post and our conversation.
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
Funny how JHP's in a handgun have been pigeon-holed as a weapon of mass destruction. Weren't they developed as a means to mitigate collateral damage due to over penetration?

When you're talking about handgun rounds, the wound channel between ball and JHP isn't radically different. A lot of people use ball for defense ammo because they want the additional penetration anyway.
I don't think anybody intelligent chooses FMJ for defense if it's a .38spl/9x19 or larger.

The wound channel between a typical round nose full metal jacket and a modern quality JHP IS radically different. If you have a sufficient cartridge (.38spl/9x19 or larger) you can get that significantly wider JHP would channel and plenty of penetration, both.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Google the word "almost", read the definition, and then consider how it applies to my post and our conversation.
I always thought that when you refer to a seller 'giving them away' that it was a figure of speech meaning that the items were super cheap...... but I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
I always thought that when you refer to a seller 'giving them away' that it was a figure of speech meaning that the items were super cheap...... but I could be wrong.
Of course. But then I qualified my statement with "almost" giving them away, just to be safe lol. I'm sure if I went back and looked for prices of those mags n 2013 or even before that, it would be illuminating
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I don't think anybody intelligent chooses FMJ for defense if it's a .38spl/9x19 or larger.

The wound channel between a typical round nose full metal jacket and a modern quality JHP IS radically different. If you have a sufficient cartridge (.38spl/9x19 or larger) you can get that significantly wider JHP would channel and plenty of penetration, both.
124g and 230g HST's for me, bubby

I don't agree with it, but I do know of people who prioritize an exit wound over internal damage. Whatever...the first rule of winning a gun fight is simply having a gun. To each his own.
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Ike, I also prefer the 20 round box mags for .308 but those mags at Brownells have terrible reviews
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/r...prod71942.aspx


These ASC mags are stainless steel, have great reviews, and are only a little more at $11.99
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
124g and 230g HST's for me, bubby

I don't agree with it, but I do know of people who prioritize an exit wound over internal damage. Whatever...the first rule of winning a gun fight is simply having a gun. To each his own.
Curious as to why prioritize an exit wound vs internal damage?
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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Curious as to why prioritize an exit wound vs internal damage?
As it was explained to me; there's still going to be trauma and a wound channel from FMJ, but the exit wound is more devastating than the entry wound (true) and the potential for a bleed out. Also, simply greater penetration allowing the bullet to reach more vitals or have more inertia if met with bone/cartilage.

Like I said, it isn't my school of thought...but the guy who explained it to me was steadfast in his thinking. He was also pretty GD weird and ready to join a militia fight the government in a moment's notice, so take it as you may.
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
As it was explained to me; there's still going to be trauma and a wound channel from FMJ, but the exit wound is more devastating than the entry wound (true) and the potential for a bleed out. Also, simply greater penetration allowing the bullet to reach more vitals or have more inertia if met with bone/cartilage.

Like I said, it isn't my school of thought...but the guy who explained it to me was steadfast in his thinking. He was also pretty GD weird and ready to join a militia fight the government in a moment's notice, so take it as you may.
The exit wound theory people seem to just ignore the entire wound channel and all of that damage and bleeding doesn't even count in their minds, they can't SEE it, they can only see the 'two holes' lol
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
As it was explained to me; there's still going to be trauma and a wound channel from FMJ, but the exit wound is more devastating than the entry wound (true) and the potential for a bleed out. Also, simply greater penetration allowing the bullet to reach more vitals or have more inertia if met with bone/cartilage.

Like I said, it isn't my school of thought...but the guy who explained it to me was steadfast in his thinking. He was also pretty GD weird and ready to join a militia fight the government in a moment's notice, so take it as you may.
Got it, I would think a puncture and bullet spreading would cause enough bleeding and pain to stop the threat, wouldn't you?
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Wait, people are still not on the JHP train?

I thought everyone pretty much converted to modern hollow points around the same time Black Talons were released lol.


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Anyone watch this dude's interviews? He basically picks the potatoes out of the crowd and interviews them on why they are protesting

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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
As it was explained to me; there's still going to be trauma and a wound channel from FMJ, but the exit wound is more devastating than the entry wound (true) and the potential for a bleed out. Also, simply greater penetration allowing the bullet to reach more vitals or have more inertia if met with bone/cartilage.

Like I said, it isn't my school of thought...but the guy who explained it to me was steadfast in his thinking. He was also pretty GD weird and ready to join a militia fight the government in a moment's notice, so take it as you may.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
The exit wound theory people seem to just ignore the entire wound channel and all of that damage and bleeding doesn't even count in their minds, they can't SEE it, they can only see the 'two holes' lol
just my opinion here - a pass through with an exit wound is a lot more useful when you're trying to blood track something

so unless we're playing "the most dangerous game" I'll take JHP and increased internal trauma for my self defense weapons
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Anyone watch this dude's interviews? He basically picks the potatoes out of the crowd and interviews them on why they are protesting

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Originally Posted By Wakaaa⏩
Got it, I would think a puncture and bullet spreading would cause enough bleeding and pain to stop the threat, wouldn't you?
Yep. And if you don't hit anything of significance inside, a 9mm is basically like an ice pick going right through you.

At the end of the day the most important thing is.....

Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
What do you guys like as far as AR stocks? I need to order something to replace the moe on a lower I just got
Plain old Magpul MOE on all my AR's. Simple. Cheap. Work Great. And look good.
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Originally Posted By truth223⏩
What do you guys like as far as AR stocks? I need to order something to replace the moe on a lower I just got
all of the ones I've bought are magpul

I like any of them with the friction lock, otherwise they have a decent amount of play
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Originally Posted By Mortar34⏩
Yep. And if you don't hit anything of significance inside, a 9mm is basically like an ice pick going right through you.

At the end of the day the most important thing is.....

Spoiler!
Shot placement
but but but knockdown power!
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