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Originally Posted By kingofturtles
If rag never phucked Roberts bitch then none of this would have ever happened. none of this killing etc...

Crazy to think about. Some guys dick basically destroyed the lands.
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Originally Posted By kingofturtles
If rag never phucked Roberts bitch then none of this would have ever happened. none of this killing etc...

Crazy to think about. Some guys dick basically destroyed the lands.
Not really, the Rebellion only started after Rhaegar's dad executed Ned's father and older brother for chits and giggles, and told Jon Arryn to kill Robert and Ned as well.

Tbh the whole "abduction" thing really doesn't make any sense, especially with all the lawyering/maestering going around with Rhaegar's marriages.

He was the heir to the Throne, he could have easily said "well cheers Elia, imma divorce you right now and marry Lyanna because reasons", and everyone would have probably rolled with it. Instead he went for an "abduction" to piss off everyone, opted for a legitimate and documented annullment and marriage in order to legitimize his son with Lyanna but then didn't do anything to prevent the war that eventually fuked over the Targaryens.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Not really, theRebellion only started after Rhaegar's dad executed Ned's father and older brother for chits and giggles, and told Jon Arryn to kill Robert and Ned as well.

Tbh the whole "abduction" thing really doesn't make any sense, especially with all the lawyering/maestering going around with Rhaegar's marriages.

He was the heir to the Throne, he could have easily said "well cheers Elia, imma divorce you right now and marry Lyanna because reasons", and everyone would have probably rolled with it. Instead he went for an "abduction" to piss off everyone, opted for a legitimate and documented annullment and marriage in order to legitimize his son with Lyanna but then didn't do anything to prevent the war that eventually fuked over the Targaryens.
Why do you think Ned's father and older brother were at King's Landing?
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New Rockstars just released a video on the Bran Night King theory. They're the best analysis channel I highly recommend.



It gets into the GoT time travel, which if you dont understand: basically there's the timeline of the world and all it's events. But instead of the the history being that way "just because", pivotal moments were originated by Bran's time travel mistakes. This is it as far as I can tell.

Makes sense but still don't hope it's true. I want the Night King to be his own self, an ancient enemy which Bran was destined to contend with.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Not really, the Rebellion only started after Rhaegar's dad executed Ned's father and older brother for chits and giggles, and told Jon Arryn to kill Robert and Ned as well.

Tbh the whole "abduction" thing really doesn't make any sense, especially with all the lawyering/maestering going around with Rhaegar's marriages.

He was the heir to the Throne, he could have easily said "well cheers Elia, imma divorce you right now and marry Lyanna because reasons", and everyone would have probably rolled with it. Instead he went for an "abduction" to piss off everyone, opted for a legitimate and documented annullment and marriage in order to legitimize his son with Lyanna but then didn't do anything to prevent the war that eventually fuked over the Targaryens.
Lyanna was promised to Robert. Remember what happened to Robb when he didn't go through with his promised marriage to one of Frey's daughters?
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Ancient armies and destiny are cool and all... but I'd be down with a spin off where Tormund skips after Brienne for a whole season like Pepé Le Pew.

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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz
Lyanna was promised to Robert. Remember what happened to Robb when he didn't go through with his promised marriage to one of Frey's daughters?
Robb got it from his aunt it seems lol
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King targaryan has three kids. Oldest one phucks lyanna, who was promised to berathron. They think it was rape. Robert gets pissed. Starks get pissed. Ned's brother and father go to kings landing and mad log kills them. So now Ned is in charge. Now chits really phucked up and Robert starts a rebellion. Everyone joins them. They take over kings landing. Robert kills rag in the battle field. Jamie kills the mad king (dunno specifics). Mad kings two other children are sent away.

Now mad king and his children are all out of the picture. Robert becomes the new big king. He ends up marring cersi (don't remember why).

Robert dies in a hunting accident so his kid (who is actually Jamie's kid) becomes king.

Something happens and they cut Ned's head off.

That's basically the jist of the first season-ish?

I know this is easy stuff but I literally watched all the seasons in like 2 weeks and it's a whirlwind in my head.
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Originally Posted By iamgenus
Why do you think Ned's father and older brother were at King's Landing?
Brandon was on his way to marry Catelyn, but then rode to King's Landing to demand the release of Lyanna. He was captured, then his father, Rickard was ordered to go to KL as well, and after that they were executed.

All the while Rhaegar and Lyanna were just chilling and banging and whatever and apparently none of them told Aerys that this wasn't really a cool move. Rhaegar went great lengths - at least according to the show - to legitimize his marriage with Lyanna, so why the hell would he do it in secret and risk - and lose - everything, instead of saying "yo, we love each other, we're getting married, deal with it"? Yes, Robert and most people would have been pissed, but it's extremely unlikely that they would have rebelled against the ruler if they knew that Lyanna was perfectly willing to marry Rhaegar.

Any of them, especially Lyanna could have told them to deal with it, but no, everything went to chit.
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Originally Posted By kingofturtles
King targaryan has three kids. Oldest one phucks lyanna, who was promised to berathron. They think it was rape. Robert gets pissed. Starks get pissed. Ned's brother and father go to kings landing and mad log kills them. So now Ned is in charge. Now chits really phucked up and Robert starts a rebellion. Everyone joins them. They take over kings landing. Robert kills rag in the battle field. Jamie kills the mad king (dunno specifics). Mad kings two other children are sent away.

Now mad king and his children are all out of the picture. Robert becomes the new big king. He ends up marring cersi (don't remember why).

Robert dies in a hunting accident so his kid (who is actually Jamie's kid) becomes king.

Something happens and they cut Ned's head off.

That's basically the jist of the first season-ish?

I know this is easy stuff but I literally watched all the seasons in like 2 weeks and it's a whirlwind in my head.
Basically. Jamie kills the Mad king because he wanted to burn basically everyone at King's Landing.

Ned finds out Rob's kids aren't his and tells that to Cersei which leads to him beheaded for going against the crown.
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So is the Ice Dragon using wight magic to fly now? Cause no way should he be able to fly with those holes in his wings
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In order to get a wight to convince the south, they sacrificed a dragon, and only get Jaime's support in return?

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Originally Posted By kingofturtles
King targaryan has three kids. Oldest one phucks lyanna, who was promised to berathron. They think it was rape. Robert gets pissed. Starks get pissed. Ned's brother and father go to kings landing and mad log kills them. So now Ned is in charge. Now chits really phucked up and Robert starts a rebellion. Everyone joins them. They take over kings landing. Robert kills rag in the battle field. Jamie kills the mad king (dunno specifics). Mad kings two other children are sent away.

Now mad king and his children are all out of the picture. Robert becomes the new big king. He ends up marring cersi (don't remember why).

Robert dies in a hunting accident so his kid (who is actually Jamie's kid) becomes king.

Something happens and they cut Ned's head off.

That's basically the jist of the first season-ish?

I know this is easy stuff but I literally watched all the seasons in like 2 weeks and it's a whirlwind in my head.
Yeah, that's basically it.

- Mad King wanted to blow up King's Landing with wildfire (green napalm goo Cersei used to nuke the Sept), Jaimie found out and killed him to prevent that

- Cersei was originally supposed to marry Rhaegar and become queen, but the Mad King just lold and told Tywin that she's beneath him, it was mostly a strategic move to keep the Lannisters in check

- Ned, just like Jon Arryn before him, found out that each and every Baratheon kid in history had black hair and blue eyes (the seed is strong), meaning that Joffrey/Myrcella/Tommen were not Robert's kids, but a result of incest. Cersei arranges for Robert's death, Robert on his deathbed names Ned Protector of the Realm, Cersei just lols and arrests him. Originally they were planning to send him to the Wall and just be done with it, but Joffrey goes full potato and has him executed.
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There will be no beef, aside from the initial shock, from the unveiling of Jon as the rightful heir to the Iron Throne. He already pledged his allegiance to Dany and I doubt he goes back on that. Furthermore, I doubt he gives any fuks about the Iron Throne to begin with.
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I literally fell in love with Danny in this last season, she's just so ****ing pretty. 10/10

Ever since I was born I have yet to find a girl as perfect as her, srs
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Originally Posted By sumusikoo
I literally fell in love with Danny in this last season, she's just so ****ing pretty. 10/10

Ever since I was born I have yet to find a girl as perfect as her, srs
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Originally Posted By sumusikoo
I literally fell in love with Danny in this last season, she's just so ****ing pretty. 10/10

Ever since I was born I have yet to find a girl as perfect as her, srs
she's 1000x hotter than some of the other misc obsessions like emma stone or mila kunis (srs wtf with those two).
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
she's 1000x hotter than some of the other misc obsessions like emma stone or mila kunis (srs wtf with those two).
Not a fan of Dany or Emma or Mila, but Dany is definitely the best out of those 3. Especially this last season, it's the best she's looked.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan
Not a fan of Dany or Emma or Mila, but Dany is definitely the best out of those 3. Especially this last season, it's the best she's looked.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
New Rockstars just released a video on the Bran Night King theory. They're the best analysis channel I highly recommend.



It gets into the GoT time travel, which if you dont understand: basically there's the timeline of the world and all it's events. But instead of the the history being that way "just because", pivotal moments were originated by Bran's time travel mistakes. This is it as far as I can tell.

Makes sense but still don't hope it's true. I want the Night King to be his own self, an ancient enemy which Bran was destined to contend with.
i dont think they can do it in 7 episodes
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Honestly. When I first saw the hodor thing it blew my mind. Now that i think about it though. It's kinda dumb and makes little sense.
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Originally Posted By Arkileon
i dont think they can do it in 7 episodes
Same, the guy in that video actually says he thinks the theory is BS. But the latest evidence is the dead army marching in the shape of a wolf's head so it's gaining steam.
Originally Posted By kingofturtles
Honestly. When I first saw the hodor thing it blew my mind. Now that i think about it though. It's kinda dumb and makes little sense.
Intuitively it doesn't make sense because our brains struggle to understand how something that always was or has happened can be made to happen years later.

Basically you just have to understand that events in this world are what they are, and when the moment arises, Bran must go back in time to ensure his shenanigans that caused these events are fulfilled.

There may be more to it but I think i've gotten that basic grasp.
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^^ Been raving about Dany all season, her face has been looking near 10/10 this season, swear all she did was lose some weight though, maybe a different make up artist
Originally Posted By kingofturtles
King targaryan has three kids. Oldest one phucks lyanna, who was promised to berathron. They think it was rape. Robert gets pissed. Starks get pissed. Ned's brother and father go to kings landing and mad log kills them. So now Ned is in charge. Now chits really phucked up and Robert starts a rebellion. Everyone joins them. They take over kings landing. Robert kills rag in the battle field. Jamie kills the mad king (dunno specifics). Mad kings two other children are sent away.

Now mad king and his children are all out of the picture. Robert becomes the new big king. He ends up marring cersi (don't remember why).

Robert dies in a hunting accident so his kid (who is actually Jamie's kid) becomes king.

Something happens and they cut Ned's head off.

That's basically the jist of the first season-ish?

I know this is easy stuff but I literally watched all the seasons in like 2 weeks and it's a whirlwind in my head.
No-one thought Rhaegar had raped Lyanna, just kidnapped her hence the father/bother go to KL to call out Rhaegar

Jon Arryn started the rebellion when the king said he wanted him to kill Ned and Rob (they were his wards), after the king had just killed Ned's dad/brother - but he refused and raised his banners instead, which then led to Ned/Rob raising their banners, then everything gets cray

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...%27s_Rebellion

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Same, the guy in that video actually says he thinks the theory is BS. But the latest evidence is the dead army marching in the shape of a wolf's head so it's gaining steam.



Intuitively it doesn't make sense because our brains struggle to understand how something that always was or has happened can be made to happen years later.

Basically you just have to understand that events in this world are what they are, and when the moment arises, Bran must go back in time to ensure his shenanigans that caused these events are fulfilled.

There may be more to it but I think i've
gotten that basic grasp.
I can u derstand the theory. But ok. Bran is in the past. He looks at hodor. Why does hodor see him? No one else ever sees him. He tells him to hold the door? And somehow hodor is suppose to know the time and place this is goIng to happen? And it freaks him out and turns him retarded? Too many things don't add up when u take the time.



Also, "you will never walk again. But you will fly". Three eyes raven said that to bran. The night king walks. Therefore. Bran is not the night king.
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Originally Posted By Groce
So is the Ice Dragon using wight magic to fly now? Cause no way should he be able to fly with those holes in his wings
yes, like how wights can still move with no muscles

I also think Viserion shoots an energy blast rather than fire/ice
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
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