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Thread: Nurse arrested after refusing to give cop blood sample

post 1518131101 09-01-2017, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY⏩
Lol, I'd sue the fukc out of this department if I were her. Damn that.

The smaller cop can definitely see that this is wrong. The look on his face says so.

Smh....
Yet they say nothing, it's infuriating when cops let other cops do wrong right in front of them.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Yet they say nothing, it's infuriating when cops let other cops do wrong right in front of them.
Bystander effect essentially. Damn shame....
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Seriously as a cop you're supposed to be on the side of the good guys... You are going to arrest a ****ing nurse who's job is to help everyone basically unbiased

Blows my mind cops in America these days. Yes I'm American.
Wrong. Cops are here to generate revenue for their employer.

Florida Highway Patrol has to (or had to, I don't follow it) write at least 2 tickets per hour (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...166462402.html)

If you're going 10mph over the limit here, the ticket is $200. So a FHP officer is expected to write ~400 worth of tickets per hour, or 3200 per shift, which is an insane amount considering they get paid like $35k/year and drive $40k cars.

They are nothing but revenue farmers with authority and militarized gear.
post 1518157151 09-01-2017, 05:03 PM
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post 1518174701 09-01-2017, 09:06 PM
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Surprised this thread doesn't have more traction.

Many people I've seen are saying that the nurse should have just obeyed the cop to avoid any trouble. That's just dumb. The nurse could get sued/lose her ability to practice nursing ever again.

It's also a HIPPA violation to take blood without consent/warrent/being under arrest. Glad the misc is actually on the side of the nurse vs the cop.
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Being in the health field, and having worked a hospital, I can tell you that the cop bit off way more than he could chew. In the hospital, we live and breathe the law. We follow it to a T, and research every update to it that we can find. Our livelihood depends on it. We're are front and center when it comes to the medical malpractice arena. That cop was incredibly foolish to try and intimidate a nurse into breaking the law.
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post 1518176231 09-01-2017, 09:32 PM
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So they were trying to get a blood test on the innocent victim in a cop involved accident(chase) ........................seems legit

but good for her.. she will be able to set precedent in a court case and get a nice check
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Cop was wrong. She also wasn't arrested
Originally Posted By bballaman369⏩
Surprised this thread doesn't have more traction.

Many people I've seen are saying that the nurse should have just obeyed the cop to avoid any trouble. That's just dumb. The nurse could get sued/lose her ability to practice nursing ever again.

It's also a HIPPA violation to take blood without consent/warrent/being under arrest. Glad the misc is actually on the side of the nurse vs the cop.
This is incorrect. Someone who is unconscious/altered mental isn't able to give consent. Therefore consent is implied. They would have to subpoena the hospital for the records
Originally Posted By Ml16121⏩
Being in the health field, and having worked a hospital, I can tell you that the cop bit off way more than he could chew. In the hospital, we live and breathe the law. We follow it to a T, and research every update to it that we can find. Our livelihood depends on it. We're are front and center when it comes to medical the malpractice arena. That cop was incredibly foolish to try and intimidate a nurse into breaking the law.
Only law that would of been broken is them sharing the findings with the police. That would require a warrant from a judge. Drawing blood on an unconscious person isn't against the law. She sounds like some pseudo activist
post 1518176401 09-01-2017, 09:34 PM
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maybe don't resist and these heroic gentleman wouldn't have to forceful with you
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Cop was wrong. She also wasn't arrested



This is incorrect. Someone who is unconscious/altered mental isn't able to give consent. Therefore consent is implied. They would have to subpoena the hospital for the records
So according to your logic if you're unconcious you have 0 consent because it's implied? Strong logic. The nurse was advocating for her patient.
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post 1518176981 09-01-2017, 09:45 PM
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Yes that is the law mr RN in training. Its what allows people to treat u when you're altered/unconscious
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lol retarded American cop strikes again
Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Yet they say nothing, it's infuriating when cops let other cops do wrong right in front of them.
Are cops trained to back up their own no matter what the circumstance, even when it's clearly wrong?
post 1518177331 09-01-2017, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Yes that is the law mr RN in training. Its what allows people to treat u when you're altered/unconscious
Didn't realize that police taking somones blood is attepting to save the patient in any capacity. You can treat someone who is unconscious if it is in their best intrest. The police taking a blood sample wouldn't be in the best intrest of the patient.
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"The only job I have is to keep my patients safe. A blood draw, it just gets thrown around there like itโ€™s some simple thing. But blood is your blood. Thatโ€™s your property.And when a patient comes in in a critical state, that blood is extremely importantand I donโ€™t take it lightly,โ€ she said.


the thought of the police trying to draw blood from the victim who just lost a bunch in the accident for their "investigation"

fkin lol
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Originally Posted By bballaman369⏩
Didn't realize that police taking somones blood is attepting to save the patient in any capacity. You can treat someone who is unconscious if it is in their best intrest. The police taking a blood sample wouldn't be in the best intrest of the patient.
Best interests =/= the law. Also by having a CDL you sign up for consent to a blood draw in the event of an a accident. The nurse was obstructing a investigation
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"The only job I have is to keep my patients safe. A blood draw, it just gets thrown around there like itโ€™s some simple thing. But blood is your blood. Thatโ€™s your property.And when a patient comes in in a critical state, that blood is extremely importantand I donโ€™t take it lightly,โ€ she said.


the thought of the police trying to draw blood from the victim who just lost a bunch in the accident for their "investigation"

fkin lol
The "victim" was suspected of a crime and was evading police when he drove into oncoming traffic
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Originally Posted By rainieravesouth⏩
oh how the tone of the misc has changed.


used to be: "obey the officer's command and you wont get arrested. it's not that hard people. you gotta do what they say"


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As a former LEO I cringed hard at how bad this idiot fukked up.
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Best interests =/= the law. Also by having a CDL you sign up for consent to a blood draw in the event of an a accident. The nurse was obstructing a investigation


The "victim" was suspected of a crime and was evading police when he drove into oncoming traffic
You sure about that? Pretty sure they got hit by someone evading police.


"The patient, William Gray, is a reserve police officer in Rigby, Idaho, according to the city's police. They thanked Wubbels for protecting his rights.

Gray is a semi-truck driver and was on the road when a pickup truck fleeing from authorities slammed into him and his truck burst into flames, police reports say."

The nurse was obstructing an investigation of an innocent guy who got hit by a dumb ass evading police? Makes sense
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Best interests =/= the law. Also by having a CDL you sign up for consent to a blood draw in the event of an a accident. The nurse was obstructing a investigation


The "victim" was suspected of a crime and was evading police when he drove into oncoming traffic
wrong. The cop was chasing someone who rammed into the victim, causing his car to burst into flame. They wanted to get a blood sample of the victim (not the person they were chasing) to cover their ass.
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Best interests =/= the law. Also by having a CDL you sign up for consent to a blood draw in the event of an a accident. The nurse was obstructing a investigation


The "victim" was suspected of a crime and was evading police when he drove into oncoming traffic
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wouldn't any evidence obtained illegally be thrown out by a judge if the case ever escalades? obviously it will since there was a dead person.
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Originally Posted By xslick⏩
wrong. The cop was chasing someone who rammed into the victim, causing his car to burst into flame. They wanted to get a blood sample of the victim (not the person they were chasing) to cover their ass.
Ive read stories that say different things regardless the first half of my post is true and doesn't change the fact she was obstructing an investigation
Originally Posted By LuisEnrikee⏩
wouldn't any evidence obtained illegally be thrown out by a judge if the case ever escalades? obviously it will since there was a dead person.
Drawing blood on an unconscious person isnt illegal. The results to ve admissible in court would require a warrant from a judge. If the semi driver did nothing wrong the results wouldn't ve subpoenad and they wouldn't matter
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There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people.

Why the fcuk do people feel the need to pick sides when it comes to "cops".
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people.

Why the fcuk do people feel the need to pick sides when it comes to "cops".
lmao so true. legit nobody ever does that with ANY other profession, ever hear of someone automatically siding with someone cuz they are a plumber or bricklayer? lmao no.

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Originally Posted By BrahPlease⏩
lmao so true. legit nobody ever does that with ANY other profession, ever hear of someone automatically siding with someone cuz they are a plumber or bricklayer? lmao no.

douches/full retards come in all sizes, jobs, races, heights, everything
Well plumbers and brick layers dont have a target on their back like cops.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
Well plumbers and brick layers dont have a target on their back like cops.
that has nothing to do with this case or anything i said. so since "cops have targets on their back" they are allowed to do whatever they want and should not be questioned? lmao gtfo. logic not even once.

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brb cop defenders automatically side with cop and say its ok cuz he got a target on his back

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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah⏩
Ive read stories that say different things regardless the first half of my post is true and doesn't change the fact she was obstructing an investigation



Drawing blood on an unconscious person isnt illegal. The results to ve admissible in court would require a warrant from a judge. If the semi driver did nothing wrong the results wouldn't ve subpoenad and they wouldn't matter
The Supreme Court has held that police have to apply for a warrant to draw an unconscious person's blood. It's the intrusive nature of the draw itself that requires a warrant. Don't confuse this with situations where blood is drawn out of medical necessity by public or private hospitals.

No Utah CDL statute purportedly implying consent supersedes the constitution. The officers in this case violated clearly established law exposing them to individual liability if the nurse wants to sue.
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