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Exactly 1 year from now is my first day in IB - Aware me on a few things pls Misc!
September 7th 2018, OP will officially be a Year 1 (Equity Capital Markets) Analyst at a London Investment Bank.
There's a one day welcome/induction event on Friday 7th, and then weekend to recover, and role formally begins on Monday 10th September 2018. Induction event will be hotel overnight stay, all you can eat food, all you can drink cocktails/champagne, presentations, talks from board members, privately-hired cars to drive us new intakes to different venues for competitions, introductions, site-visits, meeting clients, etc, and a huge networking fest where the company are forking out in excess of 50K just for that one big congratulations you made it day.
So I have a few questions about going into the IB world in general:
1) Do I need to wear $2,000 suits? An Omega watch? Designer shoes? Silk ties with gold clips/cufflinks? Etc
2) Do I need to buy lunch out with everyone else, or can I take my own healthy macros food?
3) Do I need to buy a brand new 2018 Mercedes/BMW because everyone else will have one?
4) Do I have to go drinking every night after work where people talk about markets/blow off steam?
What are best ways to fit in if you come from an FA, simple background where you wear $200 suits (including shirt, tie, shoes), take your mum's packed lunch from home, drive a 2012 car with 60K on the clock, and don't really drink? Do you really need to do all of those things to fit in? Do managers really judge what clothes you wear, and base promotions on your lifestyle?
My dad has worked in London for many years (though as a real estate & yacht broker) and he basically said I don't have to do any of those things. The people who do are the people who make high salaries but don't save a penny. Rent a penthouse suite, finance a brand new fully equipped 3-Series, wear tailored suits from fancy outlets, and spend the rest of their money on toys, watches, socialising, and basically keeping up with the latest purchase that their neighbour bought (bigger TV, larger fridge, more MP camera, higher spec iPhone, more horsepower car, higher priced watch, etc).
His advice was to make friends with the less-outgoing back office Software/IT/Tech guys who just wear normal clothes, drive old cars, drink only on special occasions and socialise with hobbies like going for hikes, playing games, watching a movie in the cinema, going for a group milkshake/dessert instead of going to expensive cocktail bars, watching live sports, going on track days like the big spenders.
He said that all of the IT guys despite making about half of what the IB guys make have a mortgage on their house, they spend their bonus on family and a memorable rather than drinking vacation/all-inclusive cruise, and their friends are real and happy for each other not superficial and just to try 1 up on each other, all in attempt to try and capture the manager or MD's attention.
He said that ECM will be about 70% back office, and 30% client-facing. So it doesn't matter if you wear a Walmart shirt when you are sitting at your desk doing your work. Just make sure WHEN you present, you dress up somewhat smartly and it's more important to arrive punctually than arrive in a 2017 BMW. Though he did say it was a good idea to wear the best suit/watch/etc for the first induction day as that's one of the rare opportunities that I will be interacting with MDs, senior management at clients, and even Board members at Year 1 Analyst level!
What is your advice Misc? Will honestly rep all good advice
There's a one day welcome/induction event on Friday 7th, and then weekend to recover, and role formally begins on Monday 10th September 2018. Induction event will be hotel overnight stay, all you can eat food, all you can drink cocktails/champagne, presentations, talks from board members, privately-hired cars to drive us new intakes to different venues for competitions, introductions, site-visits, meeting clients, etc, and a huge networking fest where the company are forking out in excess of 50K just for that one big congratulations you made it day.
So I have a few questions about going into the IB world in general:
1) Do I need to wear $2,000 suits? An Omega watch? Designer shoes? Silk ties with gold clips/cufflinks? Etc
2) Do I need to buy lunch out with everyone else, or can I take my own healthy macros food?
3) Do I need to buy a brand new 2018 Mercedes/BMW because everyone else will have one?
4) Do I have to go drinking every night after work where people talk about markets/blow off steam?
What are best ways to fit in if you come from an FA, simple background where you wear $200 suits (including shirt, tie, shoes), take your mum's packed lunch from home, drive a 2012 car with 60K on the clock, and don't really drink? Do you really need to do all of those things to fit in? Do managers really judge what clothes you wear, and base promotions on your lifestyle?
My dad has worked in London for many years (though as a real estate & yacht broker) and he basically said I don't have to do any of those things. The people who do are the people who make high salaries but don't save a penny. Rent a penthouse suite, finance a brand new fully equipped 3-Series, wear tailored suits from fancy outlets, and spend the rest of their money on toys, watches, socialising, and basically keeping up with the latest purchase that their neighbour bought (bigger TV, larger fridge, more MP camera, higher spec iPhone, more horsepower car, higher priced watch, etc).
His advice was to make friends with the less-outgoing back office Software/IT/Tech guys who just wear normal clothes, drive old cars, drink only on special occasions and socialise with hobbies like going for hikes, playing games, watching a movie in the cinema, going for a group milkshake/dessert instead of going to expensive cocktail bars, watching live sports, going on track days like the big spenders.
He said that all of the IT guys despite making about half of what the IB guys make have a mortgage on their house, they spend their bonus on family and a memorable rather than drinking vacation/all-inclusive cruise, and their friends are real and happy for each other not superficial and just to try 1 up on each other, all in attempt to try and capture the manager or MD's attention.
He said that ECM will be about 70% back office, and 30% client-facing. So it doesn't matter if you wear a Walmart shirt when you are sitting at your desk doing your work. Just make sure WHEN you present, you dress up somewhat smartly and it's more important to arrive punctually than arrive in a 2017 BMW. Though he did say it was a good idea to wear the best suit/watch/etc for the first induction day as that's one of the rare opportunities that I will be interacting with MDs, senior management at clients, and even Board members at Year 1 Analyst level!
What is your advice Misc? Will honestly rep all good advice

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Originally Posted By 12345623⏩
I'm passed the interview stage now lol. I can start being 'myself'...Bring a deck of cards for one hand of high stakes hold 'em
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This fraud again
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The CEO of my company is a former I-Banker, so I can give you some tips.
Make sure everyone in every meeting you go to knows that you went to Harvard, you should repeat this multiple times just in case someone wasn't paying attention the first 3 times.
Then announce the educational pedigrees of anyone else you know in the room, and make sure everyone knows you could have gone to those schools but chose to go to Harvard because it's Harvard.
If people don't seem to understand how great it is that you went to Harvard, tell them about working on Wallstreet.
Frequently mention the size of the bonuses you get as an I-Banker.
Kiss the ass of anyone more successful than you.
Lie every chance you get to influence people around you and to sell to clients.
Make sure everyone in every meeting you go to knows that you went to Harvard, you should repeat this multiple times just in case someone wasn't paying attention the first 3 times.
Then announce the educational pedigrees of anyone else you know in the room, and make sure everyone knows you could have gone to those schools but chose to go to Harvard because it's Harvard.
If people don't seem to understand how great it is that you went to Harvard, tell them about working on Wallstreet.
Frequently mention the size of the bonuses you get as an I-Banker.
Kiss the ass of anyone more successful than you.
Lie every chance you get to influence people around you and to sell to clients.
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Oh Lawwd he's at it again. Fuggen lost it @ asking whether you need buy a brand new car just for this imaginary event.
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
Going to post this again once, but after that, i'm negging every single salty jelly hater on the misc who calls fraud. I've posted spoon pics for every single thing that i've ever claimed.This fraud again
Spoon pics of dad's Mercedes SL63 AMG:
Pic of $90,000 cash savings from FA-basement dwelling/living at home/saving 80% of post-tax salary lifestyle:
Pics of my 2012 BMW 5-Series with (now) 65K on the clock:
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
You and your father are legit retards. Why would you spend your hard earned money on depreciating assets? You don't need $500 watches, $2000 suits or a BMW. Buy a cheap Honda Accord for transportation. Go to the salvation army for suits, they got real nice suits. and For watches just buy a cheap China brand, no one will know the difference. You'll save money instead of spending it on depreciating assets,Going to post this again once, but after that, i'm negging every single salty jelly hater on the misc who calls fraud. I've posted spoon pics for every single thing that i've ever claimed.
Spoon pics of dad's Mercedes SL63 AMG:





Pic of $90,000 cash savings from FA-basement dwelling/living at home/saving 80% of post-tax salary lifestyle:

Pics of my 2012 BMW 5-Series with (now) 65K on the clock:


Spoon pics of dad's Mercedes SL63 AMG:
Pic of $90,000 cash savings from FA-basement dwelling/living at home/saving 80% of post-tax salary lifestyle:
Pics of my 2012 BMW 5-Series with (now) 65K on the clock:
Don't be a failure like your oldcel cuck of a father. People who buy expensive brands are absolutely pathetic and will never be weathly
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
My dad owns 12 properties outright and must have a net worth in excess of 5M.You and your father are legit retards. Why would you spend your hard earned money on depreciating assets? You don't need $500 watches, $2000 suits or a BMW. Buy a cheap Honda Accord for transportation. Go to the salvation army for suits, they got real nice suits. and For watches just buy a cheap China brand, no one will know the difference. You'll save money instead of spending it on depreciating assets,
Don't be a failure like your oldcel cuck of a father
Don't be a failure like your oldcel cuck of a father
He bought the SL63 AMG as a 60th present to himself, when he was 25 like I am now, he drove a Toyota Corolla...
Also, FYI my 5-Series was nowhere near showroom price, it is 2012 and I bought it with 59K on the clock. Haven't had to do much work to it other than a full service and 2 front tyres
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
Breh, you're a grown man, get over your dad.My dad owns 12 properties outright and must have a net worth in excess of 5M.
He bought the SL63 AMG as a 60th present to himself, when he was 25 like I am now, he drove a Toyota Corolla...
Also, FYI my 5-Series was nowhere near showroom price, it is 2012 and I bought it with 59K on the clock. Haven't had to do much work to it other than a full service and 2 front tyres
He bought the SL63 AMG as a 60th present to himself, when he was 25 like I am now, he drove a Toyota Corolla...
Also, FYI my 5-Series was nowhere near showroom price, it is 2012 and I bought it with 59K on the clock. Haven't had to do much work to it other than a full service and 2 front tyres
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Your threads are so fckin cringey.
I don't even read em I just see that huge wall of text and gtfo
I don't even read em I just see that huge wall of text and gtfo

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Lol someone impressed that their daddy is rich. Best pepper your angus and welcome to being a coffee boy.
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
Listen dude, did you know rich wealthy people drive Honda Accords? That's right, used Honda Accords for years on end. LMAO at buying used BMW that's gonna be worth $5k in 6 months, not to mention expensive repairs. What you're doing is wasting money, money that could've been invested. IF you wanna make it, ditch the BMW and find a used reliable car that will last for years.My dad owns 12 properties outright and must have a net worth in excess of 5M.
He bought the SL63 AMG as a 60th present to himself, when he was 25 like I am now, he drove a Toyota Corolla...
Also, FYI my 5-Series was nowhere near showroom price, it is 2012 and I bought it with 59K on the clock. Haven't had to do much work to it other than a full service and 2 front tyres
He bought the SL63 AMG as a 60th present to himself, when he was 25 like I am now, he drove a Toyota Corolla...
Also, FYI my 5-Series was nowhere near showroom price, it is 2012 and I bought it with 59K on the clock. Haven't had to do much work to it other than a full service and 2 front tyres
Otherwise prepare to get fukd. The Incredible Hulk wouldn't be able to spread your cheeks wide enough for the raping that's about to ensue.
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Weren't you already IB stock wizard executing these massive multimillion dollar trades, rather than just a lying autist with a chicken head? Inquiring minds want to know.
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not reading any of that ****
OP's pics lead me to believe he is a car salesman
OP's pics lead me to believe he is a car salesman
you come at the king, you best not miss
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
I was. At intern level.Weren't you already IB stock wizard executing these massive multimillion dollar trades, rather than just a lying autist with a chicken head? Inquiring minds want to know.
Then I didn't get offered the full time gig straight out of college.
But 2 years after graduating I have finally been given that chance

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Originally Posted By twopiece⏩
Negged. I never neg but after posting all the proof in the world, you deserve it.This frauding ******* again...
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I think this WelshAutist ******* is going to be the first person to go on my ignore list on the misc, serious.
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Your threads are so fckin cringey.
I don't even read em I just see that huge wall of text and gtfo
I don't even read em I just see that huge wall of text and gtfo
Originally Posted By AquilaConfido⏩
Why even bother posting?I think this WelshAutist ******* is going to be the first person to go on my ignore list on the misc, serious.
Just let someone who is willing to read and give genuine advice post then...
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Originally Posted By WelshAutist⏩
I gave you advice you retarded thanksgiving dinnerWhy even bother posting?
Just let someone who is willing to read and give genuine advice post then...
Just let someone who is willing to read and give genuine advice post then...
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I'm not going to call fraud, you're just stupid.
Stupid as in - you have no class or very little of it, you throw your dick around on internet forums after asking for help from people who are either less well off, better off or on the same level as you.
If your dad is in property then that should have rubbed off on you a bit no? He deals with professionals, tradies, the lenders and other people all out for money and none of this taught you anything about how to hold yourself in front of others and fellow professionals?
I've never worked in IB but I know the types and you'll fit right in as some guy who seeks to impress but has to rely on others to look good. Your priorities as of now are all looks, no substance. If you truly are an autist and you look like American Psycho, guess what, you'll come off as Nick Bateman. I'd say work on your inner self and learn how to interact with people at different levels in life before worrying what some gold digging office whore and your fellow bros will see walking through the door and the parking lot.
PS: if you're going to work in London I suggest not walking around like you're major money. Those moped gangs will target you 100%.
Stupid as in - you have no class or very little of it, you throw your dick around on internet forums after asking for help from people who are either less well off, better off or on the same level as you.
If your dad is in property then that should have rubbed off on you a bit no? He deals with professionals, tradies, the lenders and other people all out for money and none of this taught you anything about how to hold yourself in front of others and fellow professionals?
I've never worked in IB but I know the types and you'll fit right in as some guy who seeks to impress but has to rely on others to look good. Your priorities as of now are all looks, no substance. If you truly are an autist and you look like American Psycho, guess what, you'll come off as Nick Bateman. I'd say work on your inner self and learn how to interact with people at different levels in life before worrying what some gold digging office whore and your fellow bros will see walking through the door and the parking lot.
PS: if you're going to work in London I suggest not walking around like you're major money. Those moped gangs will target you 100%.
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Starting in IB in less than a month.
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Originally Posted By DVANPATTEN⏩
Congrats, what role?Starting in IB in less than a month.
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Thanks for answer the Qs. Any reasons why?
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