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Thread: Humanity makes me sick. This is what would happen within days of being nuked.

post 1519152801 09-12-2017, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted By AmGodBrah⏩
My solution is to not bet my families fcking lives on the chance that a pack of "hungry murderers" will let them live

You hold them off or die there is no other option
Then you die. Family probably raped in front of you too for killing a few of their mates.

Just LMAO @ hoping you can hold them off forever.
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post 1519152851 09-12-2017, 04:38 AM
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lol @ the cheeky kunt on the right
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Then you die. Family probably raped in front of you too for killing a few of their mates.

Just LMAO @ hoping you can hold them off forever.
What would you do let them rape your family and not do anything? Praying you don't piss em off enough for them to kill you?

Like wtf are u even saying?
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Originally Posted By AmGodBrah⏩
What would you do let them rape your family and not do anything? Praying you don't piss em off enough for them to kill you?

Like wtf are u even saying?
Damage limitation/survival mode.

If I knew they were coming I'd take my family on the run and hope for the best.

Your way ends only in certain death for you. You can't possibly give me a reason why it wouldn't. Unless you expect the cops to show up and save you when you're on your last bullet LMFAO!!!
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm implying that it may keep you alive for up to 30 minutes and then you will most certainly be killed.

So yes, probably safer not to have a gun and then they may spare your life.
This tbh

Your only chance in such a situation would be to escape or strike some kind of deal for your life and try to join the marauders. If you got into a gunfight with an armed group there's almost no doubt you would be swiftly killed. You could then use your guile and skill in real politik to work your way up the group hierarchy, ultimately becoming some kind of Immortan Joe type figure
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Originally Posted By AmGodBrah⏩
What would you do let them rape your family and not do anything? Praying you don't piss em off enough for them to kill you?

Like wtf are u even saying?
He just wants to watch the world burn. And discourage people from shooting at him while he loots it.
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post 1519153051 09-12-2017, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Damage limitation/survival mode.

If I knew they were coming I'd take my family on the run and hope for the best.

Your way ends only in certain death for you. You can't possibly give me a reason why it wouldn't. Unless you expect the cops to show up and save you when you're on your last bullet LMFAO!!!
Obviously running is always the first fking choice

You gave me a scenario where we are barricaded and a group of people are breaking in. Now that yor argument got shat on you bring up running....

Fk out of here
post 1519153111 09-12-2017, 04:48 AM
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Why use that example when you can just use black Friday as an example. People trample on and fight each other just to grab a TV. Bunch of savages.
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Originally Posted By AmGodBrah⏩
Obviously running is always the first fking choice

You gave me a scenario where we are barricaded and a group of people are breaking in. Now that yor argument got shat on you bring up running....

Fk out of here
My argument didn't get shat on at all.

Even if you're barricaded in, they will get in. And they will be extra pissed off if you'd have shot some of them.

Simple logic dictates that your chances of being spared would only increase if you remained cooperative.

23 years of age. So naive.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm implying that it may keep you alive for up to 30 minutes and then you will most certainly be killed.

So yes, probably safer not to have a gun and then they may spare your life.
What the cuck? "let's just be as weak and helpless as possible and then m-m-maybe they will have mercy and spare our lives"
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Originally Posted By thorpowers⏩
What the cuck? "let's just be as weak and helpless as possible and then m-m-maybe they will have mercy and spare our lives"
UK brahs needa grow your balls back...sun used to never set on the British Empire...the fuk happened?
Nothing. We won most of our wars due to cunning and intelligence. Our generals were not stupid, and knew when to retreat.

The prime objective of looters would be to steal your chit.

If you shoot them, their objective will then be to murder and rape you and still steal your chit.

ROFL @ the false sense of security you gun nuts have.
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post 1519153231 09-12-2017, 04:53 AM
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I have a coworker that's a prepped. In their plan, they don't stay home. They don't barricade themselves in a house where they know people will come and loot. They have a safe place to hide, moving from place to place overnight. It's highly unlikely it will be like the walking dead where randoms are just everywhere. They'll group together because people get afraid and want the company. So you just kind of hide from them and survive on your own.

Based on what they tell me, they'd never be in a scenario where they'd be barricaded against a bunch of whacked out looters.

Myself, I'd never be in a situation on an island where i couldn't leave. When the hurricane was way out in the Atlantic, I would have bailed.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
My argument didn't get shat on at all.

Even if you're barricaded in, they will get in. And they will be extra pissed off if you'd have shot some of them.

Simple logic dictates that your chances of being spared would only increase if you remained cooperative.

23 years of age. So naive.
I feel like your argument is coming from the position of nonrestrictive vs restrictive gun laws. If the choice is between you not having a gun and most of your neighbors also not having a gun (restrictive gun policies), or you having a gun and your neighbors also probably having guns (nonrestrictive gun policies), then you can probably argue that the less gun alternative is safer.

But if all your neighbors have guns and you don't then I don't see how that is to your advantage. It is possible to have a weapon and not use it, in case you want to go for the mercy option. It's basic game theory, having a gun allows you all the options of not having a gun, i.e. not using it, while not having a gun obviously gives you less options than the guy with the gun. In that scenario having a gun > not having a gun every time, ASSUMING that you have the composure to stay calm and not start shooting at the first sign of danger.

I agree that combat is probably not the best option in most situations, but if the chit hits the fan I'd rather be strapped than not once I've exhausted all my other options.
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Originally Posted By thorpowers⏩
What the cuck? "let's just be as weak and helpless as possible and then m-m-maybe they will have mercy and spare our lives"
UK brahs needa grow your balls back...sun used to never set on the British Empire...the fuk happened?
It's just the same as when you get mugged at knife/gun point. You jus give them what they want and hope they don't get crazy. If you try to resist or fight in that situation the probability of you dying increases dramatically. I'd only fight to the death if I knew I was going to be killed anyway. Armies throughout history have surrendered and retreated when facing overwhelming odds, best to save your skin and live to fight another day when the odds are stacked in your favor
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm implying that it may keep you alive for up to 30 minutes and then you will most certainly be killed.

So yes, probably safer not to have a gun and then they may spare your life.
Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
What's your solution? How long can do you think you can hold them off for?
Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Damage limitation/survival mode.

If I knew they were coming I'd take my family on the run and hope for the best.

Your way ends only in certain death for you. You can't possibly give me a reason why it wouldn't. Unless you expect the cops to show up and save you when you're on your last bullet LMFAO!!!
You've obviously never watched videos of packs of robbers in the U.S getting met with force. They don't "get mad" and keep pushing forward into the hail of gunfire coming their way, they run in the opposite direction instantly. They aren't looking for hard targets. Rooftop Koreans during the L.A riots are a good example, they protected their stores with rifles and guess what, the roving gangs of looters didn't fuk with them.

You know Mike Tyson's famous quote "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"? Just multiply that by 1000 for bullets unexpectedly snapping past your head.

Also these looters have machetes and chit, lol just lol at getting hacked into pieces because you hope they are nice machete wielding looters who will let you and your family go.
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Originally Posted By Weaklifts1x1⏩
I have a coworker that's a prepped. In their plan, they don't stay home. They don't barricade themselves in a house where they know people will come and loot. They have a safe place to hide, moving from place to place overnight. It's highly unlikely it will be like the walking dead where randoms are just everywhere. They'll group together because people get afraid and want the company. So you just kind of hide from them and survive on your own.
This is probably the only viable way to survive in a post apocalyptic world.

But learning how to live off the land with your family in the wilderness now would take serious amounts of commitment and paranoia LOL.
Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
I feel like your argument is coming from the position of nonrestrictive vs restrictive gun laws. If the choice is between you not having a gun and most of your neighbors also not having a gun (restrictive gun policies), or you having a gun and your neighbors also probably having guns (nonrestrictive gun policies), then you can probably argue that the less gun alternative is safer.

But if all your neighbors have guns and you don't then I don't see how that is to your advantage. It is possible to have a weapon and not use it, in case you want to go for the mercy option. It's basic game theory, having a gun allows you all the options of not having a gun, i.e. not using it, while not having a gun obviously gives you less options than the guy with the gun. In that scenario having a gun > not having a gun every time, ASSUMING that you have the composure to stay calm and not start shooting at the first sign of danger.

I agree that combat is probably not the best option in most situations, but if the chit hits the fan I'd rather be strapped than not once I've exhausted all my other options.
I could make the argument that if the bad guys knew you had a gun, they would shoot you first and then steal your gun.
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus⏩
I feel like your argument is coming from the position of nonrestrictive vs restrictive gun laws. If the choice is between you not having a gun and most of your neighbors also not having a gun (restrictive gun policies), or you having a gun and your neighbors also probably having guns (nonrestrictive gun policies), then you can probably argue that the less gun alternative is safer.

But if all your neighbors have guns and you don't then I don't see how that is to your advantage. It is possible to have a weapon and not use it, in case you want to go for the mercy option. It's basic game theory, having a gun allows you all the options of not having a gun, i.e. not using it, while not having a gun obviously gives you less options than the guy with the gun. In that scenario having a gun > not having a gun every time, ASSUMING that you have the composure to stay calm and not start shooting at the first sign of danger.

I agree that combat is probably not the best option in most situations, but if the chit hits the fan I'd rather be strapped than not once I've exhausted all my other options.
In a true collapse of society, in no situation would not having a gun be an advantage. If you are worried about being targeted for having a gun, all you have to do is conceal it and only use it as a last line of defense, when you know you have to use lethal force or face certain death. If you don't have guns, and law and order breaks down, the people that do have guns will take any of your 'preps' from you. If you are a male they will probably kill you regardless (no matter how weak and pathetic you come off, or how much you beg). If you are a female they will probably rape you and possibly take you as a sex slave. Literally your only chance would be your ability to defend yourself with guns.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Damage limitation/survival mode.

If I knew they were coming I'd take my family on the run and hope for the best.

Your way ends only in certain death for you. You can't possibly give me a reason why it wouldn't. Unless you expect the cops to show up and save you when you're on your last bullet LMFAO!!!
Actually no. In a dystopian world of anarchy, you pretty much NEED guns like you would need shelter, food and water. It would become a base need because it'll be the only form of protection and deterrent against literally everyone else.

If you want to barter for goods, you'll take your weapons with you or your contact could simply kill you and take your goods. In the modern world our base needs have been easily fulfilled since the industrial revolution, so no one even thinks about killing another except a psychopath or someone with a very good reason. That and you have police and prison.

I think you are giving humanity too much credit. When people start getting hungry, they turn into monsters after a couple of weeks. A man in an apocalyptic world would have no problem kidnapping your daughter to use for sex while killing you for your shoes and socks. Just lol if you think being a good samaritan by having no guns would get you off the hook. You would likely get killed a lot sooner because in such a world people will be scum looking to take advantage of others whenever possible and you'd be an easy target.

And just lol if you think you can join a group of marauders. Everyone would be distrustful of everyone else, except family, brotherly friends and their dogs.

Not to mention guns and ammo would probably be the most valuable things you could barter with.

I'm a UK brah.
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Humans are still inherently greedy, cruel and selfish. People can argue, but in the end it's usually a balance between self-preservation and immorality. Even humans and groups you think are generous and selfless in their current situation can do a 180 given the right situation. A decent movie said something along the lines of "Show nearly an humans darkness and they abandon all that is good".

I'd love somehow for the whole world to be put under global extinction via zombies for about 1-2 years. The catch is after that period everything is restored back to what it was, BUT every single person was recorded during this event, and it's all available to the public. You watch the debates and attitudes change then.
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
You've obviously never watched videos of packs of robbers in the U.S getting met with force. They don't "get mad" and keep pushing forward into the hail of gunfire coming their way, they run in the opposite direction instantly. They aren't looking for hard targets.

You know Mike Tyson's famous quote "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"? Just multiply that by 1000 for bullets unexpectedly snapping past your head.

Also these looters have machetes and chit, lol just lol at getting hacked into pieces because you hope they are nice machete wielding looters who will let you and your family go.
I'm talking about a post-apocalyptic scenario, where people either eat or die.

Not a bunch of chance robbers trying to get their hands on some free Nikes.

Most of the people looting in a post-apocalyptic scenario would not be interested in hacking you to pieces. They just want your food.
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Obviously not the point of this thread, but if you were in the situation in St Martin than you wouldn't be able to bring your guns to vacation anyway if you flew
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I could make the argument that if the bad guys knew you had a gun, they would shoot you first and then steal your gun.
Yeah, so then you conceal it. I agree that if you walk around with an AK-47 slung across your shoulder then you're probably gonna draw some unwanted heat, but having a weapon stashed away in a backpack/holster or something probably isn't gonna cause you any more trouble than not having one. There is some merit to your argument but I think that situation is less likely than a situation arising where a weapon is of benefit.
Originally Posted By thorpowers⏩
In a true collapse of society, in no situation would not having a gun be an advantage. If you are worried about being targeted for having a gun, all you have to do is conceal it and only use it as a last line of defense, when you know you have to use lethal force or face certain death. If you don't have guns, and law and order breaks down, the people that do have guns will take any of your 'preps' from you. If you are a male they will probably kill you regardless (no matter how weak and pathetic you come off, or how much you beg). If you are a female they will probably rape you and possibly take you as a sex slave. Literally your only chance would be your ability to defend yourself with guns.
I don't agree that it would be literally my only option but otherwise, yeah, I'm with you there. If I could get my hands on a weapon in a situation like that I would. People are animals, and desperation brings out the worst in us. I wouldn't put my faith in the good intentions of others unless I absolutely had to.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm talking about a post-apocalyptic scenario, where people either eat or die.

Not a bunch of chance robbers trying to get their hands on some free Nikes.

Most of the people looting in a post-apocalyptic scenario would not be interested in hacking you to pieces. They just want your food.
If it's a starving group of marauders, not just urban youth looting nikes, then they will most certainly beat you within an inch of your life and take all your food, and leave you to die. Or if you have no food, they will kill you and cannibalize you. Either way playing the 'have mercy on me card' doesn't work. Being a hard target is your only chance at survival. People are not stupid, why risk being killed by a man with a gun, when you can find a man without a gun and take everything he has without him even having the option of defending himself
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm talking about a post-apocalyptic scenario, where people either eat or die.

Not a bunch of chance robbers trying to get their hands on some free Nikes.

Most of the people looting in a post-apocalyptic scenario would not be interested in hacking you to pieces. They just want your food.
I mean really what you'd need to do is A: be prepared ahead of time and have food/water, and B: band together with some of your neighbors/friends so that it's not just you vs the looters, it's ~10-15 of you all armed with AR-15's and thousands of rounds at your disposal and dug into a pre-planned fortified house. You're now an impossibly hard target for all but the most aggressive and large band of looters. They will lose so many of their group so quickly that they'll almost assuredly go find somewhere else to loot.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm talking about a post-apocalyptic scenario, where people either eat or die.

Not a bunch of chance robbers trying to get their hands on some free Nikes.

Most of the people looting in a post-apocalyptic scenario would not be interested in hacking you to pieces. They just want your food.
You are very very naive if you actually think this way.
post 1519153711 09-12-2017, 05:13 AM
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anything happens around me first thing im doing is throwing my body armour on,loading all my guns and ammo and non perishables into the truck, drive to my brothers, get him and his wife, get the inlaws, head out to my parents place. from there, most of my family is semi proficient in fire arms handling and shooting. personally im the best shot of the group and the most savage so obviously id be group leader of the new kill sqawd. second, recruit anybody with some sort of set of skills that are needed to survive. i have enough guns and ammo to last me a long time. my best boyo also has a chit load of guns and ammo, and hed probably end up linking up with me and my fam soon after. assuming the worst that i couldnt leave the house right away and get out of town fast enough id board up the windows as best i could and block off the doors. sit in the basement with my guns and ammo and be ready to shoot and move.

but lets be realtea. that nuke blast and radiation poisoning gonna get me before any looters do.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
I'm talking about a post-apocalyptic scenario, where people either eat or die.

Not a bunch of chance robbers trying to get their hands on some free Nikes.

Most of the people looting in a post-apocalyptic scenario would not be interested in hacking you to pieces. They just want your food.
They want your food but will most definitely rape your family

So idk how you can come to this idea about not pissing them off and praying for survival

We were just raised different I guess
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Originally Posted By iifymbro⏩
I mean really what you'd need to do is A: be prepared ahead of time and have food/water, and B: band together with some of your neighbors/friends so that it's not just you vs the looters, it's ~10-15 of you all armed with AR-15's and thousands of rounds at your disposal and dug into a pre-planned fortified house. You're now an impossibly hard target for all but the most aggressive and large band of looters. They will lose so many of their group so quickly that they'll almost assuredly go find somewhere else to loot.
This is exactly what happens in real life situations. During the 1992 riots in LA. The Korean store owners that banned together and defended their stores with guns did not have a single store looted. Meanwhile the rest of the city to include 100 korean businesses that did not defend themselves with guns were raided...
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