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ยป Humanity makes me sick. This is what would happen within days of being nuked.
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post 1519153861 09-12-2017, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus
Yeah, so then you conceal it. I agree that if you walk around with an AK-47 slung across your shoulder then you're probably gonna draw some unwanted heat, but having a weapon stashed away in a backpack/holster or something probably isn't gonna cause you any more trouble than not having one. There is some merit to your argument but I think that situation is less likely than a situation arising where a weapon is of benefit..
Most people/families in Houston during this last hurricane were packing a pistol concealed, same with FL during this last hurricane. An armed society is a polite one, there was very little looting and lawlessness.

Some weren't even subtle about it

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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
No, you'd just get murdered even quicker by a gang of thugs with guns.
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[QUOTE=iifymbro post_id=1519153861]Most people/families in Houston during this last hurricane were packing a pistol concealed, same with FL during this last hurricane. An armed society is a polite one, there was very little looting and lawlessness.

Some weren't even subtle about it

[img]http://www.radass.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Radass-Daily-Picdump-083117-035.jpg[/ig][/QUOTE]That makes sense, up to a certain point of desperation. If you're looting for fun/personal gain then a gun in your victims hand may deter you. If you're looting food to prevent starvation or otherwise save your life then it's probably not gonna be enough, you're dead if you don't go for it anyway so you might as well try to kill someone and take their chit. And now everyone around you is a potential threat too.

But yeah, the fact remains that if everyone around you is strapped then you might as well be too.
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Originally Posted By SabbyNoPhysique
If you want to barter for goods, you'll take your weapons with you or your contact could simply kill you and take your goods. In the modern world our base needs have been easily fulfilled since the industrial revolution, so no one even thinks about killing another except a psychopath or someone with a very good reason. That and you have police and prison.
Barter for goods? Do you think there will be some local open marketplace? All the thugs will have already combined into a huge army. They will be in control. There will be no 'bartering'. The only option is to run for the hills. Take a gun by all means - you may be able to shoot a few squirrels to eat before eventually running out of ammo.
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If it's a starving group of marauders, not just urban youth looting nikes, then they will most certainly beat you within an inch of your life and take all your food, and leave you to die.
This is why fleeing is the only option.
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post 1519154321 09-12-2017, 05:29 AM
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Part of being a prepper is determining how you'll protect yourself, your family, and your stores. Duh!

Typically you prepare some hideaway/shelter away from dense population.
You have a bug out bag and a means to get to the hideaway/shelter. E.g. an old reliable 4x4 or motorcycle, some water, rations, etc.
Everything you need is there.

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post 1519154531 09-12-2017, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted By thorpowers
This is exactly what happens in real life situations. During the 1992 riots in LA. The Korean store owners that banned together and defended their stores with guns did not have a single store looted. Meanwhile the rest of the city to include 100 korean businesses that did not defend themselves with guns were raided...
That's not a post-apocalyptic scenario though. Those guys knew that law and order would be restored soon enough. In which case I agree with you.

But in a post-apocalyptic scenario those Koreans would be toast. You're looking at the rest of your life living in a fortress with limited ammo.

The only option is to run away. SRS.
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post 1519154631 09-12-2017, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted By SabbyNoPhysique
Actually no. In a dystopian world of anarchy, you pretty much NEED guns like you would need shelter, food and water. It would become a base need because it'll be the only form of protection and deterrent against literally everyone else.

If you want to barter for goods, you'll take your weapons with you or your contact could simply kill you and take your goods. In the modern world our base needs have been easily fulfilled since the industrial revolution, so no one even thinks about killing another except a psychopath or someone with a very good reason. That and you have police and prison.

I think you are giving humanity too much credit. When people start getting hungry, they turn into monsters after a couple of weeks. A man in an apocalyptic world would have no problem kidnapping your daughter to use for sex while killing you for your shoes and socks. Just lol if you think being a good samaritan by having no guns would get you off the hook. You would likely get killed a lot sooner because in such a world people will be scum looking to take advantage of others whenever possible and you'd be an easy target.

And just lol if you think you can join a group of marauders. Everyone would be distrustful of everyone else, except family, brotherly friends and their dogs.

Not to mention guns and ammo would probably be the most valuable things you could barter with.

I'm a UK brah.
In studying economic collapses, id add women (as prostitutes) and gasoline to the list of most valuable goods. Gasoline being nearly as valuable as food. Women being about 4th valuable behind guns, food, and gasoline.
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Originally Posted By Weaklifts1x1
In studying economic collapses, id add women (as prostitutes) and gasoline to the list of most valuable goods. Gasoline being nearly as valuable as food. Women being about 4th valuable behind guns, food, and gasoline.
Unless you're a *******. They'd just take your guns, food and gasoline and then rape you instead. Better hope you're not a twink when the apocalypse rolls in boyo
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Ammo is heavy. You can't just carry around 10,000 rounds. Even storing it is risky as it begins to fail due to moisture. Having a rifle/shotgun is a handy solution but I don't think anyone believes it's a long term plan. The long term plan would be to find a civilized society and hope they let you join. Or in the event of total economic collapse, break into a library to get books on how to identify edible plants and animals and try to survive until society begins to reform.
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post 1519155001 09-12-2017, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted By UnclRuckus
Unless you're a *******. They'd just take your guns, food and gasoline and then rape you instead. Better hope you're not a twink when the apocalypse rolls in boyo
If they took my gun, I'd already be dead and they'd just be raping a corpse. Again, the goal is to hide. If you can't hide in a country as big as the United States then you are a damn fool.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
That's not a post-apocalyptic scenario though. Those guys knew that law and order would be restored soon enough. In which case I agree with you.

But in a post-apocalyptic scenario those Koreans would be toast. You're looking at the rest of your life living in a fortress with limited ammo.

The only option is to run away. SRS.
How would running away defenseless be an advantage to running away with a concealed pistol at your side? You can still run with a gun, the gun just gives you the added benefit of being able to defend yourself if you were cornered with no escape, and had no other option but to defend yourself or your family...
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet
It's just the same as when you get mugged at knife/gun point. You jus give them what they want and hope they don't get crazy. If you try to resist or fight in that situation the probability of you dying increases dramatically. I'd only fight to the death if I knew I was going to be killed anyway. Armies throughout history have surrendered and retreated when facing overwhelming odds, best to save your skin and live to fight another day when the odds are stacked in your favor
This is the real difference between people. Some of us won't just stand there and give in to an aggressor. At some point your reputation and the look in your eye proceeds you. Statistically you may not come out on top with this strategy... but certainly some of the aggressors and perpetrators of crime & violence will be on the lookout for softer victims.

Soldiers throughout history have feared marching orders against: The Devil Dogs, The soldiers at Omaha beach (both sides srs), The Canadians @ Dieppe & Passchendaele, The Waffen SS, The French Foreign Legion, and how many other examples.

Oh and btw a BIG difference between retreat and surrender m9. Being completely defenseless and handing over your chit is surrender. Throwing your money one way and running the other is more like retreat.
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Originally Posted By Weaklifts1x1
In studying economic collapses, id add women (as prostitutes) and gasoline to the list of most valuable goods. Gasoline being nearly as valuable as food. Women being about 4th valuable behind guns, food, and gasoline.
Yep, prostitution, pimps and their gangs would be incredibly rife. It would probably become as lucrative as the drug trade.

The only thing about gasoline and other fossil fuels is that they would become very limited or run out entirely after a few months. People would have to stop using cars.
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Originally Posted By cheachea
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Originally Posted By thorpowers
How would running away defenseless be an advantage to running away with a concealed pistol at your side? You can still run with a gun, the gun just gives you the added benefit of being able to defend yourself if you were cornered with no escape, and had no other option but to defend yourself or your family...
OK - that's fair enough.

My main point was about staying at your home thinking you can hold off the zombies forever.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
OK - that's fair enough.

My main point was about staying at your home thinking you can hold off the zombies forever.
You only brought up running away after you saw all the holes in your argument

Of course running is the only logical choice but you didn't mention that at first did u
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Only a certain demographic loots..

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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Barter for goods? Do you think there will be some local open marketplace? All the thugs will have already combined into a huge army. They will be in control. There will be no 'bartering'. The only option is to run for the hills. Take a gun by all means - you may be able to shoot a few squirrels to eat before eventually running out of ammo.



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This is why fleeing is the only option.
Google "Bosnia SHTF" and educate yourself.

As long as people need important things that they don't have, they will go out of their way to barter in order to survive.

Humans have been doing this for 10,000+ years despite all the wars, coups, civil strife, famines, natural disasters and other tragedies.

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Originally Posted By SabbyNoPhysique
Yep, prostitution, pimps and their gangs would be incredibly rife. It would probably become as lucrative as the drug trade.

The only thing about gasoline and other fossil fuels is that they would become very limited or run out entirely after a few months. People would have to stop using cars.
The scarcity along with short life span is what makes gasoline valuable. When Germany collapsed after WW1, we saw the role of energy is post industrial collapses.
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Originally Posted By AmGodBrah
You only brought up running away after you saw all the holes in your argument

Of course running is the only logical choice but you didn't mention that at first did u
Some people don't need to be awared of the most obvious.

Main point of the argument is society will go to hell. The degenerates will band together and the cops will not come to save you. Therefore hiding in your house with a gun is futile.

Now pls go.
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Originally Posted By SabbyNoPhysique
The only thing about gasoline and other fossil fuels is that they would become very limited or run out entirely after a few months. People would have to stop using cars.
That's why the diesel engine would reign King in a post-apocalyptic world. Diesel engine will run off just about anything, and are workhorses. Can get hundreds of thousands of miles on them, can run them on vegetable oil...
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Originally Posted By SabbyNoPhysique
Google "Bosnia SHTF" and educate yourself.
Google post-apocalyptic and educate yourself.

LMAO @ thinking Bosnia was post-apocalyptic.

They had the fukking United Nations there for fuks sake.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Google post-apocalyptic and educate yourself.

LMAO @ thinking Bosnia was post-apocalyptic.

They had the fukking United Nations there for fuks sake.
You couldn't have read it all that quickly.
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Originally Posted By thorpowers
That's why the diesel engine would reign King in a post-apocalyptic world. Diesel engine will run off just about anything, and are workhorses. Can get hundreds of thousands of miles on them, can run them on vegetable oil...
Sorry but a horse would be far more reliable. Just needs grass and can go anywhere.

LMAO @ driving through the wilderness towing a swimming pool full of vegetable oil for the rest of your life.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Sorry but a horse would be far more reliable. Just needs grass and can go anywhere.

LMAO @ driving through the wilderness towing a swimming pool full of vegetable oil for the rest of your life.
Do you even Mad Max?

If that documentary taught me anything it's that gangs of armored trucks are going to own the wastelands of the apocalypse...
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Originally Posted By thorpowers
That's why the diesel engine would reign King in a post-apocalyptic world. Diesel engine will run off just about anything, and are workhorses. Can get hundreds of thousands of miles on them, can run them on vegetable oil...
True I guess but how viable is this really? Unless you have stores and stores of vegetable oil (and other oils), you wouldn't really be using them to run a car because it would be very inefficient I imagine, and you would need them foremostly to cook food and heat your home through a generator or something.
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Originally Posted By potbellymadar
I can picture Samsbolton finding you and getting it on
Funny you should mention him.

That bald fat beta would be one of the first to die.

Pretty sure he lives with his hoarder mum.
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Thanks brah.

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