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post 1520990701 09-29-2017, 05:59 PM
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Smith and Wessoning. I heard you can immediately stop your opponents with one finger.
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Street fights equal getting sucker punched or getting jumped.



This covers it, although I'd say having size + boxing and wrestling would be the best combo. As great as BJJ is I'll put my money on some 210lb builtfat drunk at a bar w/a sloppy right hand and some hs wrestling vs a 160lb dork BJJ blackbelt.
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Muay thai probably would be the best, and this is coming from someone who always leans towards boxing

In today's world it's always multiple people involved and you want to be able to knock people out as efficiently as possible...

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Krav Maga for unarmed CQC but a gun and knife are always a good choice .
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Originally Posted By TooAnabolic
can confirm

Boxing is the best because it has a low learning curve and it's best to keep distance and on your feet in a street fight

Judo is a good compliment but it's 100x harder to learn and has a huge learning curve to be useful at all. But if you can tie up with someone (especially if they're wearing a jacket) it's all over. Instantly.

Not exaggerating, 100% srs. Getting slammed onto your back/head on concrete the only thing I'd be worried about is accidentally killing the other guy.
using a judo throw is not a smart move at all because its pretty much guaranteed the guy will crack his skull on the pavement or injure his spine srs, dont do it just run and avoid it all
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Boxing and wrestling if you want to get good self defence quickly if you want something with a bit more longetitivy then bjj. The reason I say this is wrestling relies alot on being explosive and in shape where bjj can cater to older people and less in shape.

If you not in shape and do a wrestling class it will be rip.
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Judo is also great but higher learning curve and using the gi where wrestling still has throws
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Shotokan is pretty well rounded
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Originally Posted By miscoach
without question, with no weapons, an mma fighter always has the advantage even if size a problem. never mind a equal weight class that would be a horror scene. a trained fighter even 170-180 lbs mma fighter will have a way with with a much larger street fighter even if he is jacked out of his mind, it wont matter to a point as long as both fighters are in the 50lb range of each other any more weight than that is considered unlikely. first off, lets just say the mma guy treads punches everyday with other fighters from his class, street fighter fighter throws punchs at someone a few times a year if that. mma guy body's is conditioned to be in a physical situation, in which a street fighter doesn't have, which is true , weight lifting strength or just natural raw man power is not the same thing. the mma fighter has the upper hand to close distance on any unskilled fighter no matter how good his hands are and is willing to eat some punches on the way in by blocking and slipping, the second a mma fighter closes distance, even a boxers hands are useless which is a historical fact, even with dirty boxing 80% of the time. trained grapplers 90% of the time always stop trained strikers dead in there tracks. now, the mma guy closes distance, he goes to his wrestling arsenal of weapons and chooses the best take down weapon for the position he is in. he takes down the fighter with ease "guarantee"..."the wrestler/bjj guy always will" while the street fighter is using stupid close distance punches landing on the top of his head that do anything except waste energy, which the mma guys wants and is laughing inside, the mma guy takes down the street fighter and puts him in a very dominant position using his bjj, now this is the scary part, people say a mma fighter is only trained to fight in a ring? the mma fighter at this point roughly puts the street fighter in a very dominant position, side mount position is a good example. now, he begins to work side control, smothering his chest , one arm under his neck and other elbow in his throat with a knee in his hip...." btw,its a very horrifying position to be in if you don't know what your doing lol" . now, the mma guy is allowing the street fighter to drain his energy supply on himself leaving the street fighter winded, mma guy didn't have to do a thing except keep position. now the street fighter not knowing what to do, only a mma fighter with training will know how to react to this. so , what does the street fighter do from here? he panics he tries to bite? nope. stick a finger in his eye? nope , not as easy as it looks. then finally hes defenseless, and the mma fighter has a full health bar....now if the mma fighter is a disciplined nice person, he would wait till his aggressor is completely winded allowing him to calm down, disarming his respiratory system, letting him know hes done for and if continues he will get hurt, allowing to get up and leave...or you have a typical guy who has had years of training, he emotionless, cage fights or no fights at all , it doesn't matter and has just had a bad day and doesn't care....now this a situation where the street fighter is in serious trouble and which could get the mma fighter throw in jail for a long time. to end this without question, a mma fighter just isnt a trained weapon in a cage, but is a walking human weapon of the streets of today. that scenario i just gave you guys was a typical mma fighter who specifies in grappling which is on average. i didnt even give a scenario where the mma fighter was stand up striking specalist as well as a great grappler. btw, muay thai in mma now is getting just as big as bjj, which is making fighters of today even deadlier the of yesterday. mma guy of today is the last guy a street guy wants to deal with. mma not to mention is like comparing a street fighter to a trained mma fighter is like comparing a standard soldier roughly a reserve vs a full time special forces solider that is trained with more advanced weapons and tactics. what street fighters dont understand is mma has been around since the greek days and it was the beginning of mma believe it or not, it was called ' pankration" and pankration was designed for Spartans who were to poor to afford a weapon and shield, and relied using his animalistic skills and ability to save his life in order to find his own weapon of his dead enemy. even back then that was considered street fighting. it later was turned into Olympic sport where greeks fought, using fatal ground striking tactics , submissions, and as we all know today is where greco roman wrestling had originated. they had submissions just like bjj except the only thing was there was no tap, lol every fight was to the death, do the math. mma is designed for the streets as well.i can say this though, if you have a great strength naturally from the street or worked out as a body builder throughout your years and decide to take up mma, just learning basics alone for the first 6 months will give you the advantage over many fighters in your class who may have been training for years, especially in bjj. they call it "bjj defense" which is taught to alot the the big and strong types and from what i was told it is nightmare for bjj practitioners and many mma fighters. the reason i know this is because i used to be a bodybuilder with a share of small scraps from past and now iv been in mma for a year, bjj/mma 3 times a week, mauy thai and western boxing twice a week. they wanted me to have my first fight after 6 months, but im still waiting a little longer. ill be honest , if had to fight myself now back then from when i started, id be in the hospital for a month, i thank my teacher and his student for all those beatings, now the team looks at me and my close friend as one of the two major G/P units. my weight lifting background definitely helped, but people need to understand weight lifting alone wont get you by in the fighting world, not even a inch. 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Originally Posted By wooosh3
using a judo throw is not a smart move at all because its pretty much guaranteed the guy will crack his skull on the pavement or injure his spine srs, dont do it just run and avoid it all
100% agreed.

If at ALL POSSIBLE, avoid the fights.

But if somebody is coming at me or my friends for no good reason I'm going to ****ing bury them.
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This is a stupid question.

If it's a street fight then you don't know what the guy is hiding under his clothes. If he has a dagger then you're phucked regardless of martial art skill.
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Originally Posted By LuckMaker
Shotokan is pretty well rounded
lol no

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I'll outline a few for you:

Boxing: Pro: the best for dealing with multiple attackers and also if you don't to avoid damage (head movement). The con being: might be a problem against opponents who are too much bigger than you and the risk of broken hands.

Kickboxing: Excellent for 1 vs 1 combat. Great punches and kicks with focus on combos. Has weapon for long distance combat (kicks) and close quarter (punches). Con: might be bad if you're against a stronger pressure fighter who always look to close the distance.

Muay Thai: The best for 1 vs 1 striking. MT kicks are devastatingly powerful, but punches can be lackluster (dependent on the instruction/gym). Up close combat MT is also one of the best due to good clinching, elbows and knees (which is easily the most powerful strike in a fighter's arsenal). Con: narrow stance can be bad against wrestlers and grapplers who tend to shoot for take down, but it can be mitigated with accurate knee placement and good clinching.

Taekwondo: avoid, although in the 90s it used to be legit. Only useful if you crosstrain it or find a gym where hard sparring is allowed.

Karate: only a handful of styles are effective e.g. kyokushin (sp). Very quick kicks and strikes and knuckles/instep conditioning is definitely helpful in street fights. Bladed stance can be bad against grapplers, also constantly bouncing up and down can tire you quickly.

Kungfu: useless, unless it's sanda/sanshou, then it's the same as kickboxing

Aikido: useless.

BJJ: very effective in 1 vs 1 combat. Con: high risk of getting our head stomped, also if you're not used to getting punched your grappling might not work very well in a street fight.

Judo: I know very little about this.

Wingchun: useless.

Wrestling: like bjj, one of the best in 1 vs 1 scenario. Con: requires a great deal of strength training and conditioning, also high risk for head stomping.

MMA: probably the best for street fight overall. You won't win against a specialist but for most street fight situation it's the most useful across the board. Con: You're a jack of all trades. Against one of the specialists above in a fight you'll be fuked, unless you're really good and can discern your opponents flaw and react accordingly, which you most likely can't in a street fight that would end in less than a round.


Krav Maga: irrelevant with it comes to street fight since the focus is to avoid it, but good for self defense situation for the soft skills (deescalation etc...) Combat-wise it's practically useless. I've only seen one instance where it was used effectively, in a video posted on youtube where an expert defended himself against a knife wielder, but what he did, the techniques he used anyone can do, thus not limited to Krav Maga. Con: finding a good school is extremely difficult. Pressure testing is nearly impossible so for the average joe it won't work in a dangerous situation.
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah
Street fights equal getting sucker punched or getting jumped.



This covers it, although I'd say having size + boxing and wrestling would be the best combo. As great as BJJ is I'll put my money on some 210lb builtfat drunk at a bar w/a sloppy right hand and some hs wrestling vs a 160lb dork BJJ blackbelt.
Having a solid ground game is great backup if you can't keep things standing and if things are headed to the floor you had better know how to land in a dominant position.

That said, its backup, standing is where you want to be so you can play the range game or run away if their friends join in.

This isn't MMA, if you end up on the ground in a street fight count it as a loss because there is no ref jumping in when someone stomps on your head.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
Having a solid ground game is great backup if you can't keep things standing and if things are headed to the floor you had better know how to land in a dominant position.

That said, its backup, standing is where you want to be so you can play the range game or run away if their friends join in.

This isn't MMA, if you end up on the ground in a street fight count it as a loss because there is no ref jumping in when someone stomps on your head.
This. You don't want to be on the ground for long in a street fight, especially not tangling with the other guy. When standing up, even if you're losing or when you see other guys about to jump at least you have your legs to run away.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman
I'll outline a few for you:

Boxing: Pro: the best for dealing with multiple attackers and also if you don't to avoid damage (head movement). The con being: might be a problem against opponents who are too much bigger than you and the risk of broken hands.

Kickboxing: Excellent for 1 vs 1 combat. Great punches and kicks with focus on combos. Has weapon for long distance combat (kicks) and close quarter (punches). Con: might be bad if you're against a stronger pressure fighter who always look to close the distance.

Muay Thai: The best for 1 vs 1 striking. MT kicks are devastatingly powerful, but punches can be lackluster (dependent on the instruction/gym). Up close combat MT is also one of the best due to good clinching, elbows and knees (which is easily the most powerful strike in a fighter's arsenal). Con: narrow stance can be bad against wrestlers and grapplers who tend to shoot for take down, but it can be mitigated with accurate knee placement and good clinching.

Taekwondo: avoid, although in the 90s it used to be legit. Only useful if you crosstrain it or find a gym where hard sparring is allowed.

Karate: only a handful of styles are effective e.g. kyokushin (sp). Very quick kicks and strikes and knuckles/instep conditioning is definitely helpful in street fights. Bladed stance can be bad against grapplers, also constantly bouncing up and down can tire you quickly.

Kungfu: useless, unless it's sanda/sanshou, then it's the same as kickboxing

Aikido: useless.

BJJ: very effective in 1 vs 1 combat. Con: high risk of getting our head stomped, also if you're not used to getting punched your grappling might not work very well in a street fight.

Judo: I know very little about this.

Wingchun: useless.

Wrestling: like bjj, one of the best in 1 vs 1 scenario. Con: requires a great deal of strength training and conditioning, also high risk for head stomping.

MMA: probably the best for street fight overall. You won't win against a specialist but for most street fight situation it's the most useful across the board. Con: You're a jack of all trades. Against one of the specialists above in a fight you'll be fuked, unless you're really good and can discern your opponents flaw and react accordingly, which you most likely can't in a street fight that would end in less than a round.


Krav Maga: irrelevant with it comes to street fight since the focus is to avoid it, but good for self defense situation for the soft skills (deescalation etc...) Combat-wise it's practically useless. I've only seen one instance where it was used effectively, in a video posted on youtube where an expert defended himself against a knife wielder, but what he did, the techniques he used anyone can do, thus not limited to Krav Maga. Con: finding a good school is extremely difficult. Pressure testing is nearly impossible so for the average joe it won't work in a dangerous situation.
You are 100% wrong and have no idea what Krav Maga is .
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Originally Posted By badreligion
You are 100% wrong and have no idea what Krav Maga is .
Why don't you enlighten us then. Cuz what i have seen IRL and on the web isn't convincing me of Krav Maga's effectiveness. A lot of what i've gathered from Krav practitioners is that they're all bark and no bite just like the Wingchun crowd.
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I did forget one thing, cardio. If you have excellent cardio your ability to escape is far better. In a fight you can use cardio to your advantage by making them chase you until they are winded and then run away (or attack if you are dumb enough to think that street fighting is a bright idea under any circumstances).
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how many street fights are you planning on getting in?
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues
aikido and its not even close, just gotta be in tune with the force.


uwotm8


Srs though. boxing and bjj is basically all you need srs. But the single best for a street fight is the 100m dash. srs
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1st of all street fighting is for *******s/losers

boxing or MT/KB + abit of judu or bjj just incase you end up on the ground or to take the person down. you want to finish it fast in the street anyway, if youre a beginner a good 1,2 combo is all you'll need, throw enough of them and some will get through.

edit; totally agree with post above, practice your sprint
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Originally Posted By Jax05
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