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Do you think single mothers is the reason for decline in society?
This is no hate thread, I'm just curious. Srs.
Ultimately are men be better at raising kids? If not, why can't they at least get the son? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever for men to not automatically get custody of the son. Women can't teach a boy to become a man, it's in another spectrum
If single mothers are the issue, why hasn't it been addressed?
Ultimately are men be better at raising kids? If not, why can't they at least get the son? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever for men to not automatically get custody of the son. Women can't teach a boy to become a man, it's in another spectrum
If single mothers are the issue, why hasn't it been addressed?
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Certainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
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It's not about men being better. Two parents offer different perspective and manner of care / teaching.
I'm sure there are plenty of great single parents out there that do their best, but it can't replace two parents. Lots of intelligent people have supporting evidence to this case.
I'm sure there are plenty of great single parents out there that do their best, but it can't replace two parents. Lots of intelligent people have supporting evidence to this case.
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
this. Dudes are usually the ones that bail and take no responsibilityCertainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
How do we know some of these women don't chase the man away? I've heard stories of daughters being pimped out, Anger being taken out on the boy, etc.Certainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
This is a group effort, and I don't see any from either side.
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
Well then I would argue she also wouldn't be a single mother if she had an ounce of sense and could adequately judge his character before getting knocked up. Every man you have sex with is a potential father to your children, ladies. But then again I'm sure she thought she could change himCertainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
nah can't be. it's always the man's fault so you're 100% wrong.Well then I would argue she also wouldn't be a single mother if she had an ounce of sense and could adequately judge his character before getting knocked up. Every man you have sex with is a potential father to your children, ladies. But then again I'm sure she thought she could change him
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Originally Posted By Howiester⏩
Actually molestation is also very rampant in white neighborhoods too. Look how many white teachers are going to jail for sex with students. And those are just the 1s that got caught.Seems to be prevalent in basketball-centric communities
Not to mention I've read plenty of miscers saying how men are getting weaker and more pathetic.
Edit: That was kinda off topic. But white people have problems in their community too. Divorce rate is high for everyone.
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Men and women share responsibility for having a kid.
Ratchet mothers and deadbeat fathers are the blame
Ratchet mothers and deadbeat fathers are the blame
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
I think it's single parenthood, which more often than not falls to the mother and not the father. The things that are needed to correctly raise a child (money, shelter, attention, nutrition, affection, etc.) are all supplied by the parents, so having only one instead of two inevitably means a child will be less likely to succeed.This is no hate thread, I'm just curious. Srs.
Ultimately are men be better at raising kids? If not, why can't they at least get the son? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever for men to not automatically get custody of the son. Women can't teach a boy to become a man, it's in another spectrum
If single mothers are the issue, why hasn't it been addressed?
Ultimately are men be better at raising kids? If not, why can't they at least get the son? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever for men to not automatically get custody of the son. Women can't teach a boy to become a man, it's in another spectrum
If single mothers are the issue, why hasn't it been addressed?
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
he's talking about the crazy-high single motherhood rate in black communities, nice autism lolActually molestation is also very rampant in white neighborhoods too. Look how many white teachers are going to jail for sex with students. And those are just the 1s that got caught.
Not to mention I've read plenty of miscers saying how men are getting weaker and more pathetic.
Edit: That was kinda off topic. But white people have problems in their community too. Divorce rate is high for everyone.
Not to mention I've read plenty of miscers saying how men are getting weaker and more pathetic.
Edit: That was kinda off topic. But white people have problems in their community too. Divorce rate is high for everyone.
68% of black mothers are unmarried at birth
43% of hispanics
two races that dominate the lower socioeconomic regions in america
some coincidence.
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This thread reminded me of something my Wife and I were talking about last night. On topic, but slightly off, and it will blow you guys the fuk away.
A coworker of my wife was engaged to a girl, they had 2 kids, he cheated. About 6 months after she left, she hit lotto maxx, and won like 10 million dollars. SRS. He makes 85k, and still has to pay her Child support (1,500 per month). She currently has a couple million in the bank and is seekingan increasein child support, just to stick it to him. She's retained the best lawyer she could, and basically wants to fuk him any way she can.
That's cuckanada for you. There are several things that attribute to the downfall of a society. A judicial system that rewards unnecessary vindictive behavior is one of them.
A coworker of my wife was engaged to a girl, they had 2 kids, he cheated. About 6 months after she left, she hit lotto maxx, and won like 10 million dollars. SRS. He makes 85k, and still has to pay her Child support (1,500 per month). She currently has a couple million in the bank and is seekingan increasein child support, just to stick it to him. She's retained the best lawyer she could, and basically wants to fuk him any way she can.
That's cuckanada for you. There are several things that attribute to the downfall of a society. A judicial system that rewards unnecessary vindictive behavior is one of them.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
I agree it's vindictive, but I also think he should have to help support the children he helped create. Just because she has more money doesn't mean she should pay more. Or vice versa, for that matter.This thread reminded me of something my Wife and I were talking about last night. On topic, but slightly off, and it will blow you guys the fuk away.
A coworker of my wife was engaged to a girl, they had 2 kids, he cheated. About 6 months after she left, she hit lotto maxx, and won like 10 million dollars. SRS. He makes 85k, and still has to pay her Child support (1,500 per month). She currently has a couple million in the bank and is seekingan increasein child support, just to stick it to him. She's retained the best lawyer she could, and basically wants to fuk him any way she can.
That's cuckanada for you. There are several things that attribute to the downfall of a society. A judicial system that rewards unnecessary vindictive behavior is one of them.
A coworker of my wife was engaged to a girl, they had 2 kids, he cheated. About 6 months after she left, she hit lotto maxx, and won like 10 million dollars. SRS. He makes 85k, and still has to pay her Child support (1,500 per month). She currently has a couple million in the bank and is seekingan increasein child support, just to stick it to him. She's retained the best lawyer she could, and basically wants to fuk him any way she can.
That's cuckanada for you. There are several things that attribute to the downfall of a society. A judicial system that rewards unnecessary vindictive behavior is one of them.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
Of course, which is why I brought up whites. Those Numbers don't mean anything when divorce rates are so high. Everybody is suffering and we wouldn't be reading about men in general getting weaker. and we wouldn't be reading about the 'elite' breaking up the family unit.he's talking about the crazy-high single motherhood rate in black communities, nice autism lol
68% of black mothers are unmarried at birth
43% of hispanics
two races that dominate the lower socioeconomic regions in america
some coincidence.
68% of black mothers are unmarried at birth
43% of hispanics
two races that dominate the lower socioeconomic regions in america
some coincidence.
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HOW BLACK AMERICA HAS PREDICTED OUR FUTURE
Concerned about growing obesity rates?
Black American women already lead the nation here. 41% of those over 18 are obese, compared to just under a quarter of White American women in the same age range. African-American women are 70% more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.
Concerned about illegitimacy and rampant out of wedlock births?
Black America has already been there and done that. The illegitimacy rate within that community has long been close to 70%. The nightmare scenarios being predicted in much of the manosphere regarding increased out of wedlock births and the complete breakdown of the family have already been played out there. Everyone else is playing catch-up.
Concerned about the spread unchecked hypergamy is having on the dating market?
Worried that it could lead to unrestrained bad-boy worship? Want to see where all of this is going?
Once again, look no further than black America. There may be no female more hypergamous than the average black american girl and, interestingly, there is no female with a lower rate of marriage. The culture places a tremendous emphasis for men on the possession of traits matching those of urban masculine culture (read: “swag”, aggression, edgy appearance, etc).
In no culture are decent guys and more academically inclined males more marginalized and insulted than they are in Black American culture.
You think the sexual market value of the average white or asian nerd is low? Try being their black equivalent and having your entire culture essentially disown you and claim that your intellect makes you an insult to the culture/race.
What happens when men in a certain culture are marginalized and their households become largely matriarchal?
ong Answer: Men will have high unemployment and incarceration rates, and young boys will be prone to violence, academic reticence, and poor performance in school. Nearly 70% of undergraduate and graduate degrees will be earned by females, while their men practically disappear from the higher echelons of the professional world and leave those women without suitable mates.
Are you concerned about the rise of anti-male attitudes among women?
You’d likely already know the end game were you a black American male. The manosphere’s archetype for the worst-case scenario of western womanhood is already normal in Black America.
“Backbreaker”, an African-American male who posts on the SoSuave.net forums, broke this down quite well (emphasis is mine):
“The thing is, and this isn’t race bating or racism in the least bit, but because African Americans in the 70′s and 80′s were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian counterparts, most African American women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don’t need a man. we kinda like have a 20 year head start on this whole feminism thing.
Black women have been telling black men they aren’t s**t, weren’t s**t and never will be S**T well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool.“
…and well before any white woman decided to crow about “The End of Men”.
Concerned about growing obesity rates?
Black American women already lead the nation here. 41% of those over 18 are obese, compared to just under a quarter of White American women in the same age range. African-American women are 70% more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.
Concerned about illegitimacy and rampant out of wedlock births?
Black America has already been there and done that. The illegitimacy rate within that community has long been close to 70%. The nightmare scenarios being predicted in much of the manosphere regarding increased out of wedlock births and the complete breakdown of the family have already been played out there. Everyone else is playing catch-up.
Concerned about the spread unchecked hypergamy is having on the dating market?
Worried that it could lead to unrestrained bad-boy worship? Want to see where all of this is going?
Once again, look no further than black America. There may be no female more hypergamous than the average black american girl and, interestingly, there is no female with a lower rate of marriage. The culture places a tremendous emphasis for men on the possession of traits matching those of urban masculine culture (read: “swag”, aggression, edgy appearance, etc).
In no culture are decent guys and more academically inclined males more marginalized and insulted than they are in Black American culture.
You think the sexual market value of the average white or asian nerd is low? Try being their black equivalent and having your entire culture essentially disown you and claim that your intellect makes you an insult to the culture/race.
What happens when men in a certain culture are marginalized and their households become largely matriarchal?
ong Answer: Men will have high unemployment and incarceration rates, and young boys will be prone to violence, academic reticence, and poor performance in school. Nearly 70% of undergraduate and graduate degrees will be earned by females, while their men practically disappear from the higher echelons of the professional world and leave those women without suitable mates.
Are you concerned about the rise of anti-male attitudes among women?
You’d likely already know the end game were you a black American male. The manosphere’s archetype for the worst-case scenario of western womanhood is already normal in Black America.
“Backbreaker”, an African-American male who posts on the SoSuave.net forums, broke this down quite well (emphasis is mine):
“The thing is, and this isn’t race bating or racism in the least bit, but because African Americans in the 70′s and 80′s were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian counterparts, most African American women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don’t need a man. we kinda like have a 20 year head start on this whole feminism thing.
Black women have been telling black men they aren’t s**t, weren’t s**t and never will be S**T well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool.“
…and well before any white woman decided to crow about “The End of Men”.
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A very typical, standard... Cleaver-like traditional value:
Mom = Nurturer
Dad = Provider
That's the most strict definition of male vs female role as parents, but usually what it comes down to... even after divorce.
Mom = Nurturer
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That's the most strict definition of male vs female role as parents, but usually what it comes down to... even after divorce.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
I agree, he can't skirt on his responsibility, but the dude is getting hosed. Not only is he paying CP, he's also covering dental, optical, and other expenses she can take care of. She's constantly dragging him into court to fuk him over despite a clear difference in income.I agree it's vindictive, but I also think he should have to help support the children he helped create. Just because she has more money doesn't mean she should pay more. Or vice versa, for that matter.
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
Perfect blame the man, or we could pin point the single mom's that are cheats and then play a woe is me story that blocks the father from talking or being a part of the child's life....Certainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
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Originally Posted By Techriding101⏩
I'm not denying blacks having a problem, what I'm asking is, why do I read comments along the lines of;HOW BLACK AMERICA HAS PREDICTED OUR FUTURE
Concerned about growing obesity rates?
Black American women already lead the nation here. 41% of those over 18 are obese, compared to just under a quarter of White American women in the same age range. African-American women are 70% more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.
Concerned about illegitimacy and rampant out of wedlock births?
Black America has already been there and done that. The illegitimacy rate within that community has long been close to 70%. The nightmare scenarios being predicted in much of the manosphere regarding increased out of wedlock births and the complete breakdown of the family have already been played out there. Everyone else is playing catch-up.
Concerned about the spread unchecked hypergamy is having on the dating market?
Worried that it could lead to unrestrained bad-boy worship? Want to see where all of this is going?
Once again, look no further than black America. There may be no female more hypergamous than the average black american girl and, interestingly, there is no female with a lower rate of marriage. The culture places a tremendous emphasis for men on the possession of traits matching those of urban masculine culture (read: “swag”, aggression, edgy appearance, etc).
In no culture are decent guys and more academically inclined males more marginalized and insulted than they are in Black American culture.
You think the sexual market value of the average white or asian nerd is low? Try being their black equivalent and having your entire culture essentially disown you and claim that your intellect makes you an insult to the culture/race.
What happens when men in a certain culture are marginalized and their households become largely matriarchal?
Are you concerned about the rise of anti-male attitudes among women?
You’d likely already know the end game were you a black American male. The manosphere’s archetype for the worst-case scenario of western womanhood is already normal in Black America.
“Backbreaker”, an African-American male who posts on the SoSuave.net forums, broke this down quite well (emphasis is mine):
“The thing is, and this isn’t race bating or racism in the least bit, but because African Americans in the 70′s and 80′s were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian counterparts, most African American women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don’t need a man. we kinda like have a 20 year head start on this whole feminism thing.
Black women have been telling black men they aren’t s**t, weren’t s**t and never will be S**T well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool.“
…and well before any white woman decided to crow about “The End of Men”.
Concerned about growing obesity rates?
Black American women already lead the nation here. 41% of those over 18 are obese, compared to just under a quarter of White American women in the same age range. African-American women are 70% more likely to be obese than non-Hispanic white women.
Concerned about illegitimacy and rampant out of wedlock births?
Black America has already been there and done that. The illegitimacy rate within that community has long been close to 70%. The nightmare scenarios being predicted in much of the manosphere regarding increased out of wedlock births and the complete breakdown of the family have already been played out there. Everyone else is playing catch-up.
Concerned about the spread unchecked hypergamy is having on the dating market?
Worried that it could lead to unrestrained bad-boy worship? Want to see where all of this is going?
Once again, look no further than black America. There may be no female more hypergamous than the average black american girl and, interestingly, there is no female with a lower rate of marriage. The culture places a tremendous emphasis for men on the possession of traits matching those of urban masculine culture (read: “swag”, aggression, edgy appearance, etc).
In no culture are decent guys and more academically inclined males more marginalized and insulted than they are in Black American culture.
You think the sexual market value of the average white or asian nerd is low? Try being their black equivalent and having your entire culture essentially disown you and claim that your intellect makes you an insult to the culture/race.
What happens when men in a certain culture are marginalized and their households become largely matriarchal?
Are you concerned about the rise of anti-male attitudes among women?
You’d likely already know the end game were you a black American male. The manosphere’s archetype for the worst-case scenario of western womanhood is already normal in Black America.
“Backbreaker”, an African-American male who posts on the SoSuave.net forums, broke this down quite well (emphasis is mine):
“The thing is, and this isn’t race bating or racism in the least bit, but because African Americans in the 70′s and 80′s were more single parent house holds than their Caucasian counterparts, most African American women today were raised not only without 2 parents around, but are fully convinced they don’t need a man. we kinda like have a 20 year head start on this whole feminism thing.
Black women have been telling black men they aren’t s**t, weren’t s**t and never will be S**T well before their Caucasian counterparts thought it was cool.“
…and well before any white woman decided to crow about “The End of Men”.
-Men are getting weaker and more pathetic every year
-The 'elite' are breaking up the family unit
-Marriage for men suck
-Men always lose child custody
Notice how I didn't mention race. That leads me to believe it's a problem for everyone and not just blacks/hispanics
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Originally Posted By Maylie⏩
This just in: Women never to blame for anything, more news at 9.Certainly doesn't help matters but she wouldn't be a single mother if the dude had an ounce of character and stayed around to raise his kid.
Men can be better at raising kids, OP. I'm pretty sure I read the majority of criminals and murderers have been raised by single mothers. Men tend to be stricter, command more respect, have more a sense of pride and honour than women (srs), and have the ability to not give a fuk if they're not their kids' friend so long as their kids succeed. I believe Maylie displayed beautifully why it isn't addressed in society - Women don't like admitting blame for anything unless someone else is more to blame.
* Doesn't take into account the amount of children birthed from a woman refusing to abort
* Doesn't take into account the amount of children birthed from a woman in secrecy behind her man's back
* Doesn't take into account the amount of children birthed in a relationship where it isn't even the guy's kid
* Doesn't take into account the amount of children birthed into a relationship where there is a falling out
Don't think about it too hard, though. Nothing you can do, and 'redpilling' yourself on some of these things is just going to lead you down a rabbit hole into neckbearding.
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
everyone is on a growing trend towards it, certain communities have just been impacted sooner rather than later.I'm not denying blacks having a problem, what I'm asking is, why do I read comments along the lines of;
-Men are getting weaker and more pathetic every year
-The 'elite' are breaking up the family unit
-Marriage for men suck
-Men always lose child custody
That leads me to believe it's a problem for everyone and not just blacks/hispanics
-Men are getting weaker and more pathetic every year
-The 'elite' are breaking up the family unit
-Marriage for men suck
-Men always lose child custody
That leads me to believe it's a problem for everyone and not just blacks/hispanics
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10-06-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
those numbers do mean something, because even if you get divorced both of your parents will almost always be in your life if not directly then at least financially. And also of the 32% of blacks getting married before having kids, even a large percentage of those end up divorced as you point out.Of course, which is why I brought up whites. Those Numbers don't mean anything when divorce rates are so high. Everybody is suffering and we wouldn't be reading about men in general getting weaker. and we wouldn't be reading about the 'elite' breaking up the family unit.
Any way you cut it, blacks and hispanics are raising children with one parent way more frequently than other races.
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10-06-2017, 11:34 AM
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nah. birth control is
10-06-2017, 11:35 AM
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For every single mom there is a dead beat dad that didnt pull out in time. Both are equally responsible.
I honestly think feminism is the cause of decline in society. Praise of single mothers is just a small part of the cancer that is feminism
I honestly think feminism is the cause of decline in society. Praise of single mothers is just a small part of the cancer that is feminism
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10-06-2017, 11:36 AM
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Those saying single dad's are somehow better aren't thinking straight. They run into the same obstacles as any single parent.
brb.... I drop off the kid at day care to let some beta raise my kid while I work.
brb... come home, feed the kid chit fast food, put the kid to bed
brb. rinse and repeat.
Men I find... are actually just as selfish with their own time as women... because humans who are selfish are selfish humans.
brb.... I drop off the kid at day care to let some beta raise my kid while I work.
brb... come home, feed the kid chit fast food, put the kid to bed
brb. rinse and repeat.
Men I find... are actually just as selfish with their own time as women... because humans who are selfish are selfish humans.
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10-06-2017, 11:38 AM
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This is not about man vs woman.
It's about the kid. Once it's here, both parents have a duty and the one who skips out on that is a sack of dog chit.
No care if he doesn't want to wife her up but he should take care of his kid.
It's about the kid. Once it's here, both parents have a duty and the one who skips out on that is a sack of dog chit.
No care if he doesn't want to wife her up but he should take care of his kid.
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