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post 1535644111 11-25-2017, 02:58 PM
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Ok, with all the stuff going on in "Zimbabwe" why don't we learn about Rhodesia....

I never heard of Rhodesia, until I was in my 20's and had to figure it out on my own...
Seems like the world supported communism for the sake of PC

*not a political question, just a general misc question
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Shhh no ones meant to know there used to be a functioning country where Zimbabwe now stands.
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
Set my people free
lol.
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Originally Posted By AquilineNose⏩
Shhh no ones meant to know there used to be a functioning country where Zimbabwe now stands.
seems that way 🤔
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Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
seems that way
yeah it was a functioning state alright, and it was white rule with blacks having no prospects in life at all. Sure Zimbabwe is bad now but just cos its bad now doesn't make Rhodesia a good thing.
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Originally Posted By Rad203⏩
yeah it was a functioning state alright, and it was white rule with blacks having no prospects in life at all. Sure Zimbabwe is bad now but just cos its bad now doesn't make Rhodesia a good thing.
why'd they have blacks fighting with them ? Whats the unemployment rate in zimbabwe now compared to then ?
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Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
why'd they have blacks fighting with them ? Whats the unemployment rate in zimbabwe now compared to then ?
See your bringing up the fact zimbawe is **** to imply Rhodesia is therefore better. its not better it was pretty terrible unless you were white.
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Lol the whole world turned its back on Rhodesia. Even the South Africans.

Minority rule lol
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Originally Posted By YUL⏩
Lol the whole world turned its back on Rhodesia. Even the South Africans.

Minority rule lol
the whole world supported communism, worked out well right?
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Originally Posted By Rad203⏩
See your bringing up the fact zimbawe is **** to imply Rhodesia is therefore better. its not better it was pretty terrible unless you were white.
Statistically everyone was better off.... now all people live in a chithole
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Rhodesia was a hell hole for Africans, couldn't be in town passed 5p, could use restrooms in town, pretty much what happens anywhere white people went. The funny part about all this is how people of European descent don't have a clue what their own people do to countries then and now. This whole issue is about the Lancaster housing agreement which is about the redistribution of land back to its rightful owners and the compensation/rentals to Zimbabweans for the lands the whites where on. The US and Britain the would compensate the white people for properties re-taken, unfortunately Blair reneged which then had Mugabe evict the "farmers" or former colonials from the land. That also caused a lot of Zimbabweans in England to be relieved of their property, so Mugabe gave the white property to a lot of the Zim folks from England. As punishment for daring to take back from the white man what he had taken from them Zimbabwe was heavily sanctioned, that is how we find ourselves laughing at their inability to compete on the world market. The only difference is unlike all the other countries like mine, Zambia aka Northern Rhodesia, Zimbabwe owns over 80% of their minerals/land while we played along and own 15 to 20%
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Originally Posted By AquilineNose⏩
Shhh no ones meant to know there used to be a functioning country where Zimbabwe now stands.
Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
seems that way
Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
why'd they have blacks fighting with them ? Whats the unemployment rate in zimbabwe now compared to then ?
Originally Posted By SrsnotSrs1⏩
Statistically everyone was better off.... now all people live in a chithole
This logic is flawed in so many ways, and rather simplistic. It's the equivalent of child's thinking. In short, it can be summed up by the fact that your logic suggests the ends justify the means.

I gather you're American, Op. If so, the notion of ends justifying the means is counter to the foundation of the United States.



The fact of the matter is this logic is rife within the misc. Sadly, people aren't principled, regardless of what side of the political spectrum one hail from; they pick and choose what to stand behind, and what not to stand behind, solely on whether or not it suits them, as if it were a catalogue.
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My parents are friends with a couple. The husband is Rhodesian and fought in the war. Served with the Selous Scouts. My father who served in the special operations community during desert storm said this guy was the "real deal".

I looked the unit up and it's some serious chit. That was a rough war. Funnily enough he said plenty of the guys in his unit were black and didn't want the country to fall.
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Same. Had never heard of Rhodesia until last year. All we were taught in school was about the apartheid ending in the 90s. Still don't really understand the whole history/situation of South Africa right now.
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
Set my people free
Yep set them free and watch the economy slide into the chitter and tribal war decimate the civilian population.

You people have no idea how to run a country.

White farms were 'nationalized' a d what happens??? No one bothers to grow fukking food. Real smart people.
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Originally Posted By chishuppu⏩
Rhodesia was a hell hole for Africans, couldn't be in town passed 5p, could use restrooms in town, pretty much what happens anywhere white people went. The funny part about all this is how people of European descent don't have a clue what their own people do to countries then and now. This whole issue is about the Lancaster housing agreement which is about the redistribution of land back to its rightful owners and the compensation/rentals to Zimbabweans for the lands the whites where on. The US and Britain the would compensate the white people for properties re-taken, unfortunately Blair reneged which then had Mugabe evict the "farmers" or former colonials from the land. That also caused a lot of Zimbabweans in England to be relieved of their property, so Mugabe gave the white property to a lot of the Zim folks from England. As punishment for daring to take back from the white man what he had taken from them Zimbabwe was heavily sanctioned, that is how we find ourselves laughing at their inability to compete on the world market. The only difference is unlike all the other countries like mine, Zambia aka Northern Rhodesia, Zimbabwe owns over 80% of their minerals/land while we played along and own 15 to 20%
Lmao...What do you think life was like for the locals before the Europeans came?
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Because it's important to keep up the appearance that the failure that is Africa is somehow due to location. People might start wondering things if they knew a highly successful bread basket of a country existed there and was successful for a reason, then became just anothet chithole dependent on foreign aid when a certain group tried to run things.
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opie why don't we learn about communist russia or china?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_k...munist_regimes

estimated death toll of between 85 and 100 million people.


that seems like a pretty significant brutality in history to not learn about, doesn't it?


really makes you think
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Originally Posted By DoctorKazama⏩
Lmao...What do you think life was like for the locals before the Europeans came?
They lived off the land and traded with each other. The reason the Europeans came was due to their lands being bad and full of war, Africa didn't have that problem. Till this day you can just move away and there is land/water, the issues arise in a territory where the European wants something. Look at South/central/Nrrth America past/present, Asia, Africa, New Zealand/Austrailia areas, etc. It was all good till the European showed up, till this day any conflict in the world involves a European from somewhere on this planet. Europeans from North America are the biggest problem now, its every race vs them. you never find war between Arabs and Africans, Arabs and Asians, Arabs and Latinos, or Africans and Asians, Africans and Latinos, etc. Its always a far away European that doesn't want to leave others alone and its citizens coming up with all kinds of reasons why they won't leave others alone.
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Zimbabwe is a chitwhole thanks to Mugabe. The best country in Africa right now is hands down Kenya with South Africa not far behind but declining and Nigeria after that but developing.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Zimbabwe is a chitwhole thanks to Mugabe. The best country in Africa right now is hands down Kenya with South Africa not far behind but declining and Nigeria after that but developing.
thats what sanctions and the Europeans do, tell me about prosperity during colonial times, you know the non chitwhole days.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Zimbabwe is a chitwhole thanks to Mugabe. The best country in Africa right now is hands down Kenya with South Africa not far behind but declining and Nigeria after that but developing.
South Africa is starting to turn into the new Zimbabwe.
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Africa not even once
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Originally Posted By chishuppu⏩
They lived off the land and traded with each other. The reason the Europeans came was due to their lands being bad and full of war, Africa didn't have that problem. Till this day you can just move away and there is land/water, the issues arise in a territory where the European wants something. Look at South/central/Nrrth America past/present, Asia, Africa, New Zealand/Austrailia areas, etc. It was all good till the European showed up, till this day any conflict in the world involves a European from somewhere on this planet. Europeans from North America are the biggest problem now, its every race vs them. you never find war between Arabs and Africans, Arabs and Asians, Arabs and Latinos, or Africans and Asians, Africans and Latinos, etc. Its always a far away European that doesn't want to leave others alone and its citizens coming up with all kinds of reasons why they won't leave others alone.
literally dumbest thing I've ever read.
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blacks are ruining africa is the short version


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Originally Posted By chishuppu⏩
Rhodesia was a hell hole for Africans, couldn't be in town passed 5p, could use restrooms in town, pretty much what happens anywhere white people went. The funny part about all this is how people of European descent don't have a clue what their own people do to countries then and now. This whole issue is about the Lancaster housing agreement which is about the redistribution of land back to its rightful owners and the compensation/rentals to Zimbabweans for the lands the whites where on. The US and Britain the would compensate the white people for properties re-taken, unfortunately Blair reneged which then had Mugabe evict the "farmers" or former colonials from the land. That also caused a lot of Zimbabweans in England to be relieved of their property, so Mugabe gave the white property to a lot of the Zim folks from England. As punishment for daring to take back from the white man what he had taken from them Zimbabwe was heavily sanctioned, that is how we find ourselves laughing at their inability to compete on the world market. The only difference is unlike all the other countries like mine, Zambia aka Northern Rhodesia, Zimbabwe owns over 80% of their minerals/land while we played along and own 15 to 20%
Ian Smith argued that Africans would be unable to run a country democratically, because there would only be one vote once then forty years of dictatorship.

"At the time that he claimed to be defending "civilised standards", Rhodesians had already witnessed the flight of Belgian refugees from the Congo; Idi Amin had trashed Uganda, and Mobutu Sese Seko was about to introduce an even more brutal and dysfunctional regime in neighbouring Zaire; immediately to the north of Rhodesia, Kaunda's Zambia was in a mess, riddled with corruption and economically mismanaged, and Malawi was being similarly misruled by the eccentric despot Hastings Banda. So why, Smith argued, would Mugabe be any different? Why, indeed."
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